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Post by alum on Dec 9, 2021 11:54:30 GMT -5
Anyone interested in him will be able to watch every kick he has ever taken in a game and video from practice as well. They will decide if he has the physical skills to get the job done. There is a mental aspect related to pressure that sometimes comes and goes with kickers. I'm not sure how coaches evaluate that.
Best of luck to this young man. Like Tony Melink '85, he came in and gave us four good years.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 9, 2021 13:02:36 GMT -5
I'm surprised at the debate about Derek Ng's post-HC career--after all, we were unanimous a few years ago in predicting a solid NFL career for Kalif Raymond, weren't we?
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 9, 2021 14:52:19 GMT -5
Kalif will never get there..too short. At least that is what I read on some Crossports posts.
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Post by beaven302 on Dec 9, 2021 14:56:41 GMT -5
I thought we were discussing grad school, not "making a living." Another year of development could make a big difference. I was thinking full scholarship. Those are very difficult for kickers to earn. The Delaware kid ( clearly a superior kicker) landed one (for both his remaining years) with Cincinnati. Cincinnati made it a high priority (apparently their field goal situation is currently horrendous - one fan site notes: Cincinnati finished the season 129th-out of-130 FBS teams in team field goal percentage (43.75%)... Northwestern was the only team worse than the Bearcats... The Bearcats will try to score a touchdown on every one of their Cotton Bowl possessions to avoid ever attempting a field goal.). Giving scholarships to high school kickers can be problematic. NU gave a full scholarship to high school kicking star Charlie Kuhbander in 2016. In a five-year career he had a success average of under 60% on kicks of 30+ yards.
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Post by wayback on Dec 9, 2021 15:10:23 GMT -5
Like a prior Chesney kicker he goes to LSU.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 9, 2021 16:45:20 GMT -5
Between this and the Chesney job thread, I’m amazed at how many people seem to not follow college football outside of Holy Cross. Ng had a very nice career at Holy Cross, but the idea that he is one of the best kickers in the country and/or an NFL prospect is a bit much. Ng's .588 FG% (10-17) this year ranked him 70th in the county in 1-AA, and would have ranked him 108th (of 112) in 1-A. If you remove his 1-3 mark on 50+ FGs, he'd be at .642, or 60th in 1-AA, and 102nd in 1-A. Chesney's star kicker at Assumption, Cole Tracy, was 27-29 (.931) in his final year at Assumption, and then was 29-33 (.878) at LSU after transferring for his Senior year. Despite that extremely impressive resume, Tracy has never even made it onto a practice squad in the NFL. There are 32 kicking jobs in the NFL, and very few turn over each year. The posters on this message board have about the same chance as Ng at landing one of those spots. Great analysis. I dont even think NFL teams utilize practice squad spots for backup kickers. If you're not one of the 32 active NFL starting kickers, you're either on IR, training/working with an agent to land the next opening, or playing in the CFL or whatever minor pro football leagues still exist. And if you don't have range out to at least 64/65 in perfect conditions, you're basically a non-starter as an NFL prospect. NFL kicking has gotten so insanely good over even just the past 20-25 years. I do think Ng has a) a leg and three quarters and b) great composure in big spots. This will lead to him getting a chance somewhere at the FBS level. P5 kickers are not all NFL kickers. Plenty of guys at that level with similar stats to Ng. **my post regarding Ng being ready to start for the Jets was a tongue in cheek refernce to Gang Green kicking woes. This past Sunday, they were the first NFL team in 40 years to score TDs on first 3 possessions and end up with 18 points. Granted, the PAT was 10 yd closer for 36 of those years.
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