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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 13, 2022 9:55:18 GMT -5
Looks like Vermont is going to be able to eke out a win today.... If you can build a program like Becker has done in Burlington, VT it can be done in Worcester, MA. He didn't really build the program. I think Becker is a good coach, but there are a ton of coaches out there who'd be successful at UVM walking into the situation he did.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 13, 2022 9:57:22 GMT -5
TV network will likely pressure NCAA to invite Iona as at-large team knowing that Pitino will drive viewership ——-Insert smiley face here——- Was talking about this yesterday at the bar in the Bronx with a friend of mine whose an Iona alum. He thinks they'll get in. Yeah, he's out of his mind if he thinks Iona will get in. They won't even be in the discussion.
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Post by trimster on Mar 13, 2022 9:59:00 GMT -5
At least tiny Lavietes Pavilion looks full. Assume the empty seats I can see are from people who went to the first game and left. How long before the PL copies the Ivy format of top 4 finishers playing on one weekend at one site to determine the league rep.? TBH, I prefer it over the PL's ferkata tourney format.
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Post by trimster on Mar 13, 2022 10:00:17 GMT -5
If you can build a program like Becker has done in Burlington, VT it can be done in Worcester, MA. He didn't really build the program. I think Becker is a good coach, but there are a ton of coaches out there who'd be successful at UVM walking into the situation he did. Well someone built it in the middle of nowhere. Brennan?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 13, 2022 10:09:38 GMT -5
He didn't really build the program. I think Becker is a good coach, but there are a ton of coaches out there who'd be successful at UVM walking into the situation he did. Well someone built it in the middle of nowhere. Brennan? Yes. But credit to UVM for making good hires with Lonergan and then Becker to keep the train rolling. Brennan's final season, the one where they beat Syracuse in Worcester, UVM finished ranked 43rd in Pomeroy's rankings. I also wouldn't classify Burlington, VT as the middle of nowhere. I'd argue Burlington is the most attractive college town in the America East and UVM is one of the better schools in that league. There's a lot working for them.
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Post by trimster on Mar 13, 2022 10:23:36 GMT -5
Well someone built it in the middle of nowhere. Brennan? Yes. But credit to UVM for making good hires with Lonergan and then Becker to keep the train rolling. Brennan's final season, the one where they beat Syracuse in Worcester, UVM finished ranked 43rd in Pomeroy's rankings. I also wouldn't classify Burlington, VT as the middle of nowhere. I'd argue Burlington is the most attractive college town in the America East and UVM is one of the better schools in that league. There's a lot working for them. I agree totally with your last two points having been to Burlington many times but it's really not close to anything but green mountains and Canada. Plus I am guessing UVM has pretty high admissions standards. If they can do it, why not us?
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 13, 2022 10:27:18 GMT -5
I think low D-1s are in a really tough spot with the current landscape. You bag a really good recruit, there's a good chance he'll be gone in a year or two. There's also probably less of a chance of getting someone trickling down from a high major, since they are not in the business of taking on projects anymore - they just wait to poach the kids they want after they have a year or two of experience under their belts. In the case of HC, where they have no grad school, and are in a huge pro sports market to boot......imho it's just a hard gig. Even if they were at a higher level, not many would care around these parts. If a Mass school made it to the Final Four, and during that week the Celtics made a big trade, what story would get the most attention? For low D-1s, I think you're best off if you're lucky enough to be the only game in town, and if you can at least have a chance to take in transfers (and have a grad school to at least have a shot to hold on to kids). A school like UVM at least has the only game advantage.....course, if they were to make a mistake with their next hire (when that happens), they could slide right back down to where they were 20 years ago. Kind of depressing for me. I've never been a Big East or Bust guy, but there are days where I wonder if the phrase "if you can't beat them, join them" becomes apropos. It does feel like HC is at a bit of a crossroads (no pun intended), with an aging, dwindling fan base, and the way the D-1 world is. For the immediate term, I also feel next year has to be the key year for Coach Nelson. My absolute minimum expectation is a top 4 finish (with a quarterfinal game at home), and then winning that to get into the semis. Period. Don't care about the record. I am curious about the non conference schedule; one would normally expect it to be tougher, to align with a more experienced group. But, will heat in the seat make it look like another schedule baked by Hostess? Next year's OOC? Keep it in New England and HC has a chance to be a fox in the hen house.
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Post by bigfan on Mar 13, 2022 10:34:34 GMT -5
Next year OOC should not be in New England, we need to show our team with a national schedule, it would help recruiting,
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Post by Ignutz on Mar 13, 2022 11:37:31 GMT -5
Schools all over New England from D3 to D1 winning big games in front of full houses and HC chugs along with dismal seasons after seasons, and virtually zero interest outside of the aging denizens of this forum. Swell... Just for the record, by my count only 5 of the 16 other New England schools (excluding BC, Providence, and UCONN) had a record above .500 this year. Bryant and Vermont won their leagues (both really bad leagues). BU made it to the pL semifinals. And nobody else was close to winning their league. The idea that New England college basketball is taking off and leaving HC in the dust is just nonsense. Vermont: 27-5 Bryant: 22-9 BU: 21-12 UNH: 15-13 Yale: 17-11 UMASS: 15-17 Northeastern: 9-22 Harvard: 13-13 UMASS Lowell: 15-16 URI: 15-16 (1 win) Brown: 13-16 Dartmouth: 9-16 Maine: 6-23 Hartford: 12-20 CCSU: 8-24 Quinnipiac: 13-17 After a very quick glance, am I correct that we were 1-8 against these teams (as later amended), and that our single win came against a team that also beat us?
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Post by hchoops on Mar 13, 2022 13:02:25 GMT -5
Yale upsets top seed Princeton to dance once again
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Post by sader81 on Mar 13, 2022 13:02:30 GMT -5
Yale upsets Princeton - makes five NE teams in the dance!
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 13, 2022 13:13:20 GMT -5
Richmond-Davidson is the kind of game I can enjoy. High level of non semi pro ball.
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Post by trimster on Mar 13, 2022 13:27:30 GMT -5
Next year OOC should not be in New England, we need to show our team with a national schedule, it would help recruiting, Who would you like to see us play nationally?
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Post by lou on Mar 13, 2022 13:31:04 GMT -5
Next year OOC should not be in New England, we need to show our team with a national schedule, it would help recruiting, If Nelson schedules D3 games, can we make them exhibitions only.
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Post by purplehaze on Mar 13, 2022 13:35:39 GMT -5
Yale’s win is only a small upset - they had beaten Princeton in NJ during the regular season Ivy basketball superior to the PL (it wasn’t supposed to be that way)
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Post by hchoops on Mar 13, 2022 13:41:36 GMT -5
Richmond-Davidson is the kind of game I can enjoy. High level of non semi pro ball. This second half is a coaches’ clinic, esp on the offensive end. McKillop and Mooney are excellent.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 13, 2022 14:16:25 GMT -5
Richmond beats Davidson by 2. Some bubble team just lost a bid.
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Post by lou on Mar 13, 2022 14:16:48 GMT -5
Deja vu all over again...Davidson misses game winner 3 with 1.7 seconds
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Post by lou on Mar 13, 2022 14:17:23 GMT -5
Richmond.beats Davidson by 2. Some bubble team just list a bid. They showed it's Xavier
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Post by hchoops on Mar 13, 2022 14:18:58 GMT -5
All guesses right now
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Post by purplehaze on Mar 13, 2022 14:59:17 GMT -5
Sean Logan will be playing at a much higher level than the PL next year - you can bet he was watching Did Sean make All-State in NJ ?
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Post by Chu Chu on Mar 13, 2022 15:04:09 GMT -5
Next year OOC should not be in New England, we need to show our team with a national schedule, it would help recruiting, Who would you like to see us play nationally? Come out to the NW and schedule Seattle University and maybe UW or WSU or Gonzaga!
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 13, 2022 15:28:20 GMT -5
Watching Purdue in the Big10 Championship, they would be a great matchup for Colgate.
Have trouble scoring, not very athletic, and Colgate’s size would be able to hang in against their massive (slow) bigs.
Announcers love their “star” Jaden Ivey, but IMO he’s overrated and wouldn’t scare me like the studs for other teams around that seed line (e.g. Banchero @ Duke, Agbaji @ Kansas)
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Post by res on Mar 13, 2022 16:11:03 GMT -5
Next year OOC should not be in New England, we need to show our team with a national schedule, it would help recruiting, If Nelson schedules D3 games, can we make them exhibitions only. You're allowed to schedule no more than two non D1 opponents as exhibitions. Any others count as official games.
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Post by res on Mar 13, 2022 16:14:48 GMT -5
And that's assuming you don't play any controlled "secret" scrimmages against D1 opponents.
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