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Post by rgs318 on Nov 16, 2016 10:48:23 GMT -5
Massey makes Quinnipiac a 10 point favorite at HC tonight. The Bobcats are 2-0 with their biggest win a 63-60 victory at Dayton. I hope HC benefits from the new Hart and makes the most of their 21% chance for a win (according to Massey).
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 16, 2016 11:27:54 GMT -5
I get the feeling gibbons has a major challenge in front of him this year. the only senior, ganser has not developed and has managed to take only 1 shot so far in 32 minutes on the floor. they need her to contribute on the boards and with some inside scoring. the 2 sophs have not shown any improvement and hardly see the floor. so we're left with the junior class which is guard heavy and the frosh to carry the load inside. not a formula for success.
the Q trailed by 15 points in the 2nd half at dayton and came back to win.
win or lose tonight, i hope we play well.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Nov 16, 2016 17:43:00 GMT -5
Empty classes are a killer.
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 16, 2016 19:29:12 GMT -5
Q leads 23-8 after 1st qtr. yes, they're good, but we are terrible. coach bg has already played 11, just no answers
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Post by hchoops on Nov 16, 2016 20:53:48 GMT -5
43-26 Q in the third
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 16, 2016 22:18:11 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Nov 16, 2016 22:28:47 GMT -5
Final ?
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 16, 2016 22:35:19 GMT -5
78-55...wasn't even that close!
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Post by HC13 on Nov 17, 2016 6:49:03 GMT -5
Thanks for the pictures, was unable to watch, but will later.
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Post by HC13 on Nov 17, 2016 6:50:03 GMT -5
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 17, 2016 8:04:10 GMT -5
The Bobcats were, indeed, too much for our Crusaders. Watching this team of talented individuals is difficult because the team seems to have no identity. Roles do not seem clear for individual players. I hope they come together soon or this could be a very long season. Our six frosh are having a difficult time fitting in and the steady rotation of players seems to be a search for winning combinations but is not producing winning play. I am not sure how a team that can play an opponent even, or even play better than them, for one quarter can look so hopelessly lost in another period.
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Post by nhteamer on Nov 17, 2016 8:47:39 GMT -5
BRYANT and QUINNIPIAC "too much for the Crusaders.
That, my friends, is depressing.
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 17, 2016 9:31:55 GMT -5
in looking at the box score, it's apparent this was no more than a workout for quinnipiac. all 15 players played, and not one of them for more than 18 minutes ! we rely on our guards for scoring and we did not make a 3 pt shot until the 4th quarter. our sr and soph classes' offense could only show 2 made free throws for the game much to be concerned about with 13 schollie players, a good walk-on and no injuries so far.
it's early so let's hope there is a strategy to get the ship righted
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Post by bison137 on Nov 17, 2016 10:21:53 GMT -5
BRYANT and QUINNIPIAC "too much for the Crusaders. That, my friends, is depressing. Bryant, perhaps - but not Quinnipiac. They are a midmajor power, having averaged 26 wins per season over the past five years. Their 2013 and 2015 teams were both likely better than any HC women's team in its history. It is no disgrace to lose to them. Fwiw, Sagarin had Quinny as a 16-point favorite.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 17, 2016 11:15:21 GMT -5
So, 137, you wouldn't think that any of your Bison athletic teams have fallen after losing to Q? Quinnipiac, as much as they'd like, is neither an Ivy League school nor a historically strong athletic school, despite your stats about the last 5 years, which in the larger scheme of things is a short period of time. The point being made is that Q has obviously put a lot of $$$$, focus and effort on their athletics to enhance their name recognition ("Flutie effect?"), so this former no-name school has surpassed Holy Cross athletically. That, for those of us who are graduates from a school with a long history of academic and athletic success in New England, is sad to hear if not downright depressing. And, of course, we are jealous!
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Post by purple1 on Nov 17, 2016 12:31:56 GMT -5
COACHING......this should have been addressed 6-8 years ago. Status quo remains in this program and needs to be removed. New ideas with focused eyes.....
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Post by bigfan on Nov 17, 2016 12:56:11 GMT -5
It's time for a new coach.
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 17, 2016 12:59:20 GMT -5
So, 137, you wouldn't think that any of your Bison athletic teams have fallen after losing to Q? Quinnipiac, as much as they'd like, is neither an Ivy League school nor a historically strong athletic school, despite your stats about the last 5 years, which in the larger scheme of things is a short period of time. The point being made is that Q has obviously put a lot of $$$$, focus and effort on their athletics to enhance their name recognition ("Flutie effect?"), so this former no-name school has surpassed Holy Cross athletically. That, for those of us who are graduates from a school with a long history of academic and athletic success in New England, is sad to hear if not downright depressing. And, of course, we are jealous! I knew nothing about this Quinnipiac women's program but based on what they did last year, they are a pretty solid team. Probably the best team that is going to play at HC this season.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 17, 2016 14:53:04 GMT -5
I watched some of the first half. The game was soon out-of-hand, and during one substitution, I believe Q sent in five new players en masse. If a team feels it is good enough to keep on sending in fresh players in waves, that bodes poorly for the opponent.
I don't know what to say about a coach, who, even though its early in the season, is resorting to a nearly infinite number of five-on-the-floor combos in an attempt to get cohesion, except to say, maybe it is about time.
If the football coach kept changing out the backfield every second or third series, you know that posters would be measuring the rope, and getting the horse out of the barn.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 17, 2016 15:13:24 GMT -5
I watched some of the first half. The game was soon out-of-hand, and during one substitution, I believe Q sent in five new players en masse. If a team feels it is good enough to keep on sending in fresh players in waves, that bodes poorly for the opponent. I don't know what to say about a coach, who, even though its early in the season, is resorting to a nearly infinite number of five-on-the-floor combos in an attempt to get cohesion, except to say, maybe it is about time. If the football coach kept changing out the backfield every second or third series, you know that posters would be measuring the rope, and getting the horse out of the barn. Wow how much do you know about coaching basketball ? at least give the veteran coach with 581 wins at HC the benefit of the doubt in trying to find the best combination of 5 players early in the OOC schedule before talking about taking his livelihood away. the analogy to football is weak. There are only 11 football games. Of course you would not sub out the backfield as you would sub in hoops.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 17, 2016 15:58:24 GMT -5
I watched some of the first half. The game was soon out-of-hand, and during one substitution, I believe Q sent in five new players en masse. If a team feels it is good enough to keep on sending in fresh players in waves, that bodes poorly for the opponent. I don't know what to say about a coach, who, even though its early in the season, is resorting to a nearly infinite number of five-on-the-floor combos in an attempt to get cohesion, except to say, maybe it is about time. If the football coach kept changing out the backfield every second or third series, you know that posters would be measuring the rope, and getting the horse out of the barn. Wow how much do you know about coaching basketball ? at least give the veteran coach with 581 wins at HC the benefit of the doubt in trying to find the best combination of 5 players early in the OOC schedule before talking about taking his livelihood away. the analogy to football is weak. There are only 11 football games. Of course you would not sub out the backfield as you would sub in hoops. I am willing to give a veteran coach with a lot of wins a lot of latitude, particularly if key players are injured. Yet, HC's spending on women's hoops in 2013, 2014, and 2015, was second or third highest in the PL. (BostonU is the clear front-runner in spending.) But over the last nine seasons, there has been but one 20 win season. If one is consistently paying top dollar for a sport, one should expect better results than that. Before Boston U joined the PL, and with the re-instatemeet of scollies, HC typically spent the most on women's basketball of any PL school.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 17, 2016 16:03:31 GMT -5
You did not answer the question about whether you know anything about coaching.basketball. now you are talking wins and losses unlike in your first post. Stick to your numbers, except wins and losses. Leave the critique of the coaches to people who have followed the game which is about a lot more than the dollars that are spent.
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Post by sarasota on Nov 17, 2016 17:12:44 GMT -5
I have followed BG closely for his entire tenure at HC. There have been times when he substituted with mind numbing rapidity--almost like a manic episode. Don't know how to explain that. For years we always looked like a well coached team on Offense--often better than the mens team. In recent years, however, I think he's slipped a couple of notches. I have no idea why.
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Post by purple1 on Nov 17, 2016 20:48:01 GMT -5
Not a hard worker and recruiting efforts have resulted in complacency. No development of players and bench antics are over the top with little instruction during the game. Excellent with local charities and cap gown relations, but it does not win games. BG also had upper hand with scollies for a few years, other teams caught up and past him with their efforts. DR turned his head instead of correcting the problem......we are who we are......
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 18, 2016 1:19:33 GMT -5
My opinion is #3 is by far the most talented player and needs to get more shots in the offense. The bigs on the team really don't give them much.
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