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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Feb 11, 2023 22:32:56 GMT -5
Ches at 1:17. So effen good.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 11, 2023 23:06:54 GMT -5
Wow!!! Coach Chesney in the company of some real A-Listers.
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Post by thecrossisback on Feb 12, 2023 11:43:22 GMT -5
Did anyone see the season ticket holder survey. One of the questions was putting HC and the fans on the away sideline. It listed out the pros and cons.
One of our points of interest that we are considering this year is switching our current home sideline (campus side) to the opposite sideline (290 side). While we have identified several benefits to this move, we understand this would be a change for you and want to know how you see this adjustment potentially impacting your experience.
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Post by HC92 on Feb 12, 2023 15:19:33 GMT -5
Did anyone see the season ticket holder survey. One of the questions was putting HC and the fans on the away sideline. It listed out the pros and cons. One of our points of interest that we are considering this year is switching our current home sideline (campus side) to the opposite sideline (290 side). While we have identified several benefits to this move, we understand this would be a change for you and want to know how you see this adjustment potentially impacting your experience. I think like the idea. What were the cons?
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Post by hchoops on Feb 12, 2023 15:24:35 GMT -5
One may be the great amount of empty space on the new visitor side, considering the usual poor turnout of visitors.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 12, 2023 15:48:06 GMT -5
From the survey:
* 6. Would you be interested in moving your seats if the Crusaders switched sidelines?
Pros 1) Crowd on broadcast will appear large to prospective recruits and fans
2) Student body will be more prominent on the broadcast
3) Team will be on the same side as their locker room for better treatment and medical accessibility
4) Teams will not cross paths pregame and halftime
5) The sun provides additional warmth to the 290 side of the stadium
6) ADA accessibility ramp is currently located on the 290 side of the stadium
7) Larger concourse under the stands
Cons 1) Current reduced number of restrooms
2) Reduced number of concessions compared to campus side of the stadium
3) Smaller seating capacity compared to the sideline closest to campus
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Post by HC92 on Feb 12, 2023 16:40:38 GMT -5
Seems like the restroom and concessions issues can be addressed with port-a-potties and a food court with food trucks in deep center field of the baseball field. That leaves reduced seating capacity but overflow seating can be on the other side. Seems like not a huge deal.
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Post by cruskater31 on Feb 13, 2023 10:18:59 GMT -5
Is it really that difficult to move the TV cameras to the other side of the field? Seems a bit excessive to me.
If, for our biggest games (say homecoming, family weekend, defacto championship games like Fordham, etc), we fill up nearly the entire home sideline, would it make sense to then squeeze those same people into visitor's sideline?
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 13, 2023 11:23:37 GMT -5
I have a theory about the survey based on nothing but "gut." TPTB do read Crossports and the occasionally griping from some about how the cameras are situated such that they capture the visitors' side which is always a lot fewer people so that it looks like the crowd in Fitton is a lot sparser than it actually is. Phreek or others more qualified might better guess on what it would cost to run whatever additional electrical and cables to the other side and set up platforms or whatever else would need to be done to move the cameras so they show the home side. My guess is it might have more to do with impacts on the President's Box and the V.I.P.s that sit there. If the cameras go there because the box is at midfield where you'd want the cameras, someone's gotta move unless they put the cameras above the president's box and then you'd want to cover it (would that trigger ADA?).
With no plans to add additional restrooms or food concessions, the survey would seem slanted towards a negative vote.
The survey did NOT ask if people simply wanted to move the cameras.
The survey has generated a couple of PMs. phone calls from others in which those guys made clear that they are not happy with the food trucks and prefer actual concession stands and gripes about the condition of the restrooms (heard from women as well about that).
Bottom line is, someone needs to pony up $20-$40 million to fix Fitton, ADA and all!
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 13, 2023 11:31:48 GMT -5
Bottom line is, someone needs to pony up $20-$40 million to fix Fitton, ADA and all! It's tough to spend that kind of money for something that is used five or six times a year on a facility that is largely serviceable.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 13, 2023 11:40:28 GMT -5
And yet people spend money on stuff like wine and other things. Not intended as a shot at the Smith family. This is the kind of thing that someone with so much money he/she doesn't know how to spend it might put it to this use rather than buy themselves another Lear jet or $400 million dollar yacht that sits on the dock because the owner is too busy making money in other parts of the world. Don't worry, SOV, I wasn't going to ask you to help pay into a Go Fund Me account. The survey results might help the argument to not change anything.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 13, 2023 12:44:40 GMT -5
The biggest con is that when there is a large crowd, 90 percent supporting Holy Cross, the seating capacity of the north stands is probably no more than 5,000, and many will be squeezed either to poor seats, or to the south stands. What were 30 yard line seats in the south stands will become 10 yard line or end zone seats in the north stands, and the students and others, who are not season ticket-holders, are relegated to the south stands.
Add another camera position to the northeast corner. That will be a good position to pan the crowd and catch RC working the refs.
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Post by hc6774 on Feb 13, 2023 13:24:33 GMT -5
The biggest con is that when there is a large crowd, 90 percent supporting Holy Cross, the seating capacity of the north stands is probably no more than 5,000, and many will be squeezed either to poor seats, or to the south stands. What were 30 yard line seats in the south stands will become 10 yard line or end zone seats in the north stands, and the students and others, who are not season ticket-holders, are relegated to the south stands. Add another camera position to the northeast corner. That will be a good position to pan the crowd and catch RC working the refs. I think the trick is to keep 70-80% of attendance (90% HC fans) on the 'campus side' Visitors (i,e, not season tix) & students campus side only; Season tix (99% HC fans) both sides (i.e. choice of either side)?
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Post by HC92 on Feb 13, 2023 13:47:25 GMT -5
It’s not an either/or. We can fill the 290 side with season ticket holders, students and family/friends of the team. We can sit another 7k on the campus side. We give the visiting team one big section on the campus side (not a midfield section) and that should be more than enough for most of our guests.
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Post by spenser on Feb 13, 2023 13:58:53 GMT -5
Not to make it all about me but… My friends and I have had seats on the 46/47 yard line for years. I’m willing to bet that I’ll get worse seats on the other side. I’m a hard no.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 13, 2023 13:59:32 GMT -5
Whoa, whoa, whoa! Shouldn't we do like every other college and let visitors only sit in the end zone? For opponents' VIPs, let them sit on the 10-20 yard line.
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Post by Ignutz on Feb 13, 2023 15:30:20 GMT -5
I finally got around to completing and submitting my survey early this morning, and my response echoed much of what's been outlined above.
Why would the HC fans want to cram into the Visitors' side? To be seated at the goal-line about fifteen rows up? To stare across the field at a section of the stadium that could sit 10,000 people, but is occupied by 400? This makes no sense.
Why not put the primary TV cameras on the Visitors' side to provide a better view of the crowd for our at-home viewers? This seems like a relatively easy (and inexpensive) fix.
Is the sideline depth the same on each side? If so, I'd be more amenable to having the teams switch sides. This way, our guys can see the magnitude of their supporting crowd and better hear and see crowd reactions, and the folks on the campus side can mercilessly mock and heckle the visiting players! The piece of this that absolutely won't work, however, is having our cheerleaders, etc. on the side with the visiting team. As such, we return to the move the TV cameras solution.
This doesn't seem that complicated.
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Post by HC92 on Feb 13, 2023 16:03:15 GMT -5
I don’t see why we can’t just give the visitors sections 1 and 2 on the campus side and claim all the rest for ourselves. We can fill the sections behind both benches and put the team and 5000 fans behind them on the sunny side nearer our locker room. Another 7k HC fans can fill the midfield sections on the campus side.
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Post by bfoley82 on Feb 13, 2023 16:15:38 GMT -5
Is it really that difficult to move the TV cameras to the other side of the field? Seems a bit excessive to me. If, for our biggest games (say homecoming, family weekend, defacto championship games like Fordham, etc), we fill up nearly the entire home sideline, would it make sense to then squeeze those same people into visitor's sideline? I am with you on this...Why not just put the cameras on the 290 side and flip the HC logo at midfield?
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Post by bfoley82 on Feb 13, 2023 16:16:46 GMT -5
I finally got around to completing and submitting my survey early this morning, and my response echoed much of what's been outlined above. Why would the HC fans want to cram into the Visitors' side? To be seated at the goal-line about fifteen rows up? To stare across the field at a section of the stadium that could sit 10,000 people, but is occupied by 400? This makes no sense. Why not put the primary TV cameras on the Visitors' side to provide a better view of the crowd for our at-home viewers? This seems like a relatively easy (and inexpensive) fix. Is the sideline depth the same on each side? If so, I'd be more amenable to having the teams switch sides. This way, our guys can see the magnitude of their supporting crowd and better hear and see crowd reactions, and the folks on the campus side can mercilessly mock and heckle the visiting players! The piece of this that absolutely won't work, however, is having our cheerleaders, etc. on the side with the visiting team. As such, we return to the move the TV cameras solution. This doesn't seem that complicated. Sideline depth is HORRIBLE at Holy Cross. It is one of the reasons why Men's Lacrosse is not played at Fitton.
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Post by cmo on Feb 13, 2023 16:41:36 GMT -5
But makes for great viewing experience
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Feb 13, 2023 17:40:43 GMT -5
I don’t see why we can’t just give the visitors sections 1 and 2 on the campus side and claim all the rest for ourselves. We can fill the sections behind both benches and put the team and 5000 fans behind them on the sunny side nearer our locker room. Another 7k HC fans can fill the midfield sections on the campus side. This is the best idea so far. Have the student section on current visitor's side of course. Would leave plenty of room for Holy Cross fans to enjoy great seats on either side of the field.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 13, 2023 17:46:06 GMT -5
But makes for great viewing experience There's not a bad slab of aluminum in the house.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 13, 2023 18:56:16 GMT -5
I finally got around to completing and submitting my survey early this morning, and my response echoed much of what's been outlined above. Why would the HC fans want to cram into the Visitors' side? To be seated at the goal-line about fifteen rows up? To stare across the field at a section of the stadium that could sit 10,000 people, but is occupied by 400? This makes no sense. Why not put the primary TV cameras on the Visitors' side to provide a better view of the crowd for our at-home viewers? This seems like a relatively easy (and inexpensive) fix. Is the sideline depth the same on each side? If so, I'd be more amenable to having the teams switch sides. This way, our guys can see the magnitude of their supporting crowd and better hear and see crowd reactions, and the folks on the campus side can mercilessly mock and heckle the visiting players! The piece of this that absolutely won't work, however, is having our cheerleaders, etc. on the side with the visiting team. As such, we return to the move the TV cameras solution. This doesn't seem that complicated. Sideline depth is HORRIBLE at Holy Cross. It is one of the reasons why Men's Lacrosse is not played at Fitton. Great point- it’s better to have a running track and a big buffer zone to help get those fan seats as far away from the game action as possible. Unreal
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 22, 2023 14:42:11 GMT -5
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