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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 9, 2016 19:33:23 GMT -5
At Army tonite, at Hart tomorrow nite. 0-0 late first
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 9, 2016 19:48:40 GMT -5
Scoreless. End 1st
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 9, 2016 20:29:56 GMT -5
1-0 Army end 2nd
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Post by HC92 on Dec 9, 2016 20:49:51 GMT -5
2-0 now early in the third.
Does anyone know why we play Army home and home twice instead of one weekend at each? It's not like Worcester and West Point are particularly close to each other.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 9, 2016 20:55:48 GMT -5
No idea but it is curious scheduling. Bus rental cheaper than a floor of hotel rooms for a nite perhaps?
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Post by HC92 on Dec 9, 2016 21:07:47 GMT -5
3-0 late.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 9, 2016 21:11:01 GMT -5
4-0 too late
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Post by hchoops on Dec 9, 2016 21:22:07 GMT -5
4-2 final
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 10, 2016 4:48:58 GMT -5
Nice that there were those two face-saving goals at the end. It sounds like, after the first period, Army dominated.
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Post by jflare on Dec 10, 2016 13:08:09 GMT -5
Domination by Army.... Is this team more like the victories over PC and Union or more like the listless play recently as we now slip to 6-6? These games really don't mean too much ( although we can't lose them all ) as this team needs success in March to validate any progress at all in the program under Berard
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 10, 2016 19:35:15 GMT -5
Game 2 at the Hart: Army up 2-0 in the first
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Post by hchoops on Dec 10, 2016 20:16:49 GMT -5
4-1 Period 2
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Post by HC92 on Dec 10, 2016 20:36:14 GMT -5
Was very close to driving up tonight. At this point, I'm very glad we didn't. Hopefully we mount a great comeback and make me regret not going.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 10, 2016 20:39:02 GMT -5
End 2nd: Army 4 HC 1
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Post by hchoops on Dec 10, 2016 21:10:49 GMT -5
5-1 Mid third Lost weekend
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 10, 2016 21:14:44 GMT -5
Domination by Army.... Is this team more like the victories over PC and Union or more like the listless play recently as we now slip to 6-6? These games really don't mean too much ( although we can't lose them all ) as this team needs success in March to validate any progress at all in the program under Berard Union is ranked 15th, and still looks like a good win, but we caught them at home on a Tuesday night between two ECAC weekends. Providence received only 2 votes in the last poll (less than Robert Morris, and equal to Army and RIT), and is in 10th place in the Hockey East. Perhaps it's a blessing in disguise that we have not been able to close the deal on the Hockey East. I have yet to see much (if any) tangible evidence that this program is (a) anywhere close to ready for the big time or (b) worth the multi-million dollar annual investment.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 10, 2016 21:25:16 GMT -5
8-1 final embarrassment
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Post by realism on Dec 10, 2016 22:32:57 GMT -5
Domination by Army.... Is this team more like the victories over PC and Union or more like the listless play recently as we now slip to 6-6? These games really don't mean too much ( although we can't lose them all ) as this team needs success in March to validate any progress at all in the program under Berard Union is ranked 15th, and still looks like a good win, but we caught them at home on a Tuesday night between two ECAC weekends. Providence received only 2 votes in the last poll (less than Robert Morris, and equal to Army and RIT), and is in 10th place in the Hockey East. Perhaps it's a blessing in disguise that we have not been able to close the deal on the Hockey East. I have yet to see much (if any) tangible evidence that this program is (a) anywhere close to ready for the big time or (b) worth the multi-million dollar annual investment. bringbackcaro, the only way for "feet-on-the-ground reality-oriented" posters to give the HC-HE deal potential any serious consideration is to think about geoography...and dismiss all of the contingencies, financial and otherwise, that jump out at you everywhere in this deal. Competiive performance isn't even on HE's checklist for HC. The best HC can do is to drag this out as long as they can before HE comes up with a more suitable arrangement. Could that provide a year or two for the fantasy trippers led by ACTP to say in Pinochio fashion "we're still negotiating ?" Dunno-probably a question for a soothsayer ? Speaking of Army, It would surprise me if HE wouldn't be looking at them: 1. A true national brand with a strong hockey tradition with access to the NY market en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Black_Knights_men's_ice_hockey 2. Tate Stadium (capacity - 2,648) goarmywestpoint.com/sports/2015/3/6/GEN_2014010119.aspx?id=193. The trip is shorter than Vermont or South Bend for HE and definitely shorter for Army, while offering the cadets constant exposure to the Boston market.. 4. And unlike a deal with HC, HE has as much or more to gain from Army's association, than visa versa. 5. Army is not a troubled turnaround situation, suffering from years of neglect of its athletic programs and stagnation of its overall brand. HE would be acting like a charity for an institution with HC's many uncertainties. It's only prudent for them to "shop around." I don't see HE rushing to sign a letter of intent with H.C., do you ? And H.C. doesn't have its ducks in a row to press for such a thing.( Do you follow how these things are actually done, ACTP ? ) If anyone in the northeart has a brand to bring to HE, where it's a win-win, it's Army. None of the HE- hook up possibilities are without problems. ( No Canadiens on the Army roster. ) But, aside from geography, HC has problems everywhere that you look.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 10, 2016 22:59:16 GMT -5
^^^ Time for you to punch in at the drive thru window. Your shift starts in 2 minutes.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 11, 2016 1:21:36 GMT -5
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 11, 2016 6:33:47 GMT -5
Union is ranked 15th, and still looks like a good win, but we caught them at home on a Tuesday night between two ECAC weekends. Providence received only 2 votes in the last poll (less than Robert Morris, and equal to Army and RIT), and is in 10th place in the Hockey East. Perhaps it's a blessing in disguise that we have not been able to close the deal on the Hockey East. I have yet to see much (if any) tangible evidence that this program is (a) anywhere close to ready for the big time or (b) worth the multi-million dollar annual investment. bringbackcaro, the only way for "feet-on-the-ground reality-oriented" posters to give the HC-HE deal potential any serious consideration is to think about geoography...and dismiss all of the contingencies, financial and otherwise, that jump out at you everywhere in this deal. Competiive performance isn't even on HE's checklist for HC. The best HC can do is to drag this out as long as they can before HE comes up with a more suitable arrangement. Could that provide a year or two for the fantasy trippers led by ACTP to say in Pinochio fashion "we're still negotiating ?" Dunno-probably a question for a soothsayer ? Speaking of Army, It would surprise me if HE wouldn't be looking at them: 1. A true national brand with a strong hockey tradition with access to the NY market en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Black_Knights_men's_ice_hockey 2. Tate Stadium (capacity - 2,648) goarmywestpoint.com/sports/2015/3/6/GEN_2014010119.aspx?id=193. The trip is shorter than Vermont or South Bend for HE and definitely shorter for Army, while offering the cadets constant exposure to the Boston market.. 4. And unlike a deal with HC, HE has as much or more to gain from Army's association, than visa versa. 5. Army is not a troubled turnaround situation, suffering from years of neglect of its athletic programs and stagnation of its overall brand. HE would be acting like a charity for an institution with HC's many uncertainties. It's only prudent for them to "shop around." I don't see HE rushing to sign a letter of intent with H.C., do you ? And H.C. doesn't have its ducks in a row to press for such a thing.( Do you follow how these things are actually done, ACTP ? ) If anyone in the northeart has a brand to bring to HE, where it's a win-win, it's Army. None of the HE- hook up possibilities are without problems. ( No Canadiens on the Army roster. ) But, aside from geography, HC has problems everywhere that you look. Nice post. I think some are so strained from the amount of water they're carrying for Nate Pine and his staff that they can't step back and see how big of a disaster the HE could become if we aren't going to fully support the program to the levels necessary (new high $ coach, significant facility upgrades, relaxed admissions standards, multi-million dollar annual budget increase, etc.) I feel bad for the Women's Hockey team that will soon be sent out in front of the D1 firing squad.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 11, 2016 7:12:17 GMT -5
There are a few reasons you don't hear Army mentioned with Hockey East. As realism noted in his post, their arena holds 2,648. The minimum Hockey East requirement for a new member is 4,000 with at least 20% of seating being chairbacks. Beyond the arena, the budget for a Hockey East club is materially higher than for an Atlantic Hockey club. Not sure the federal government is looking to make a big investment in Army hockey. I'm guessing the Cadets have much bigger priorities in their budget. Lastly, there are only so many Hockey East-level players who are US citizens. WIthout the ability to supplement its roster with foreign players, Army's recruiting pool would be narrower than anyone else's. Yes, Army does allow up to 60 foreign cadets to study at West Point at any one time but those spots are coveted and I can't see foreign governments nominating candidates for those select few spots based on their ability to help Army hockey. Army to Hockey East is not happening.
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Post by bigfan on Dec 11, 2016 8:48:05 GMT -5
Too many people are against HC joining HE. It would help in recruiting hockey players and we would get games on TV and better exposure in the press. I don't understand why people would be against trying to get into HE. The league that we are in does not generate any interest in fans, it's like the PL in basketball and football. We need to upgrade our league memberships.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 11, 2016 8:50:44 GMT -5
Too many people are against HC joining HE. It would help in recruiting hockey players and we would get games on TV and better exposure in the press. I don't understand why people would be against trying to get into HE. The league that we are in does not generate any interest in fans, it's like the PL in basketball and football. We need to upgrade our league memberships. Don't confuse the volume of posts with the number of people opposed to Hockey East.
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Post by jflare on Dec 11, 2016 10:36:40 GMT -5
We are clearly not ready for HE. Let's stay in Atlantic Hockey and win some games first before we get too crazy. Also winning a playoff round in March might be nice. Not much progress in this program so far after Pearl left. Let's hope that it gets better very soon.
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