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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 27, 2023 10:58:40 GMT -5
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Post by drjack on Nov 27, 2023 11:00:26 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see the corresponding CUSA and CAA moves. As it stands they are at 11 and 15 respectively.
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 27, 2023 11:27:42 GMT -5
Delaware would be 1st FCS school required to pay $5 million application fee to move up to FBS
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Post by hchoops on Nov 27, 2023 11:30:04 GMT -5
Delaware would be 1st FCS school required to pay $5 million application fee to move up to FBS Delaware must have one, or more likely more, sugar daddies. And the same or other NIL people. 5 mill is just the tip of a large iceberg |
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Post by alum on Nov 27, 2023 11:40:26 GMT -5
Delaware would be 1st FCS school required to pay $5 million application fee to move up to FBS Delaware must have one, or more likely more, sugar daddies. And the same or other NIL people. 5 mill is just the tip of a large iceberg Increase the toll on the Delaware Memorial Bridge by fourteen cents per car for a year and they will have the application fee covered.  |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 27, 2023 11:52:08 GMT -5
Yuck. I don't like this move for Delaware.
CUSA is a trash heap.
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Post by rf1 on Nov 27, 2023 11:56:04 GMT -5
This will be the new CUSA membership once the Blue Hens join:
Delaware
Liberty
Western Kentucky
Middle Tenn St
Kennesaw St
Jacksonville State
Florida International
La Tech
Sam Houston
UTEP
New Mexico St
This league will certainly require a lot of travel for all sports. I cannot imagine that UD football fans, who typically travel in large numbers to away games along the east coast, will make a lot of future games outside Newark. This carries over to men's basketball as well. Delaware fans only had to drive to nearby DC for the CAA Tournament in 2023. Had they been in CUSA, they would have had to go to Frisco, TX.
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Post by mainejeff on Nov 27, 2023 12:06:04 GMT -5
This the CAA all-sports conference without Delaware (from North to South)
Northeastern
Stony Brook
Hofstra
Drexel
Monmouth
Towson
William & Mary
Hampton
Elon
North Carolina A&T
Campbell
North Carolina-Wilmington
College of Charleston
I think that the big question will be....can the CAA hold on to the remaining CAA members - Northeastern, William & Mary & Charleston? And can they keep CAA Football from falling apart?
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Post by fillfittonfield on Nov 27, 2023 12:14:27 GMT -5
Pasted below is what I wrote in September on the topic of Delaware going to FBS:
If Delaware leaves the CAA for greener pastures, I think the following will happen:
1) Nova is going to take a closer look at their football affiliation with the CAA.
2) Unlike what other posters think, I strongly believe they will NOT follow Delaware and make the move to FBS.
3) Nova will “look at the board” and realize that their real peers in football (after Delaware leaving for FBS) should be W&M and Richmond.
4) I believe that Nova will then “back channel” with those two schools.
5) Once they’ve conferred, all 3 will approach the PL and discuss the possibility of a merger (under certain conditions, such as allowing non medical redshirts)
6) I think the PL will be pressured by Fordham and HC to agree to most of the demands from “the Big 3.”
7) The big 3 will agree to join the PL. Georgetown will exit stage right (probably will head to Pioneer) and Bucknell will be told to “step up and adapt” or look for a new conference.
8) We pop the champagne and celebrate this wonderful new version of the PL!
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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 27, 2023 12:24:18 GMT -5
6) I think the PL will be pressured by Fordham and HC to agree to most of the demands from “the Big 3.” 7) The big 3 will agree to join the PL. Georgetown will exit stage right (probably will head to Pioneer) and Bucknell will be told to “step up and adapt” or look for a new conference. 8) We pop the champagne and celebrate this wonderful new version of the PL! Not this nonsense again. If you don't want Georgetown, why not ask President Rougeau to have them expelled at the next PL executive meeting? Once the laughter dies down, they can get back to doing whatever PL presidents do. |
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Post by mainejeff on Nov 27, 2023 12:24:40 GMT -5
Pasted below is what I wrote in September on the topic of Delaware going to FBS: If Delaware leaves the CAA for greener pastures, I think the following will happen: 1) Nova is going to take a closer look at their football affiliation with the CAA. 2) Unlike what other posters think, I strongly believe they will NOT follow Delaware and make the move to FBS. 3) Nova will “look at the board” and realize that their real peers in football (after Delaware leaving for FBS) should be W&M and Richmond. 4) I believe that Nova will then “back channel” with those two schools. 5) Once they’ve conferred, all 3 will approach the PL and discuss the possibility of a merger (under certain conditions, such as allowing non medical redshirts) 6) I think the PL will be pressured by Fordham and HC to agree to most of the demands from “the Big 3.” 7) The big 3 will agree to join the PL. Georgetown will exit stage right (probably will head to Pioneer) and Bucknell will be told to “step up and adapt” or look for a new conference. 8) We pop the champagne and celebrate this wonderful new version of the PL! W&M for all sports and Villanova and Richmond for football associate membership? |
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Post by alum on Nov 27, 2023 12:48:12 GMT -5
This will be the new CUSA membership once the Blue Hens join: Delaware Liberty Western Kentucky Middle Tenn St Kennesaw St Jacksonville State Florida International La Tech Sam Houston UTEP New Mexico St This league will certainly require a lot of travel for all sports. I cannot imagine that UD football fans, who typically travel in large numbers to away games along the east coast, will make a lot of future games outside Newark. This carries over to men's basketball as well. Delaware fans only had to drive to nearby DC for the CAA Tournament in 2023. Had they been in CUSA, they would have had to go to Frisco, TX. They will be the only flagship state university in the league. I am not sure in what cities several of these schools are located. |
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 27, 2023 12:49:50 GMT -5
Delaware is banged up right now but has been building to this for a few years, I think. The fit must be there. Liberty is a logical geographic fit from VA to DE, but I think the Sun Belt with JMU, ODU, Marshall, etc. would have been a better fit.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 27, 2023 13:01:58 GMT -5
Pasted below is what I wrote in September on the topic of Delaware going to FBS: If Delaware leaves the CAA for greener pastures, I think the following will happen: 1) Nova is going to take a closer look at their football affiliation with the CAA. 2) Unlike what other posters think, I strongly believe they will NOT follow Delaware and make the move to FBS. 3) Nova will “look at the board” and realize that their real peers in football (after Delaware leaving for FBS) should be W&M and Richmond. 4) I believe that Nova will then “back channel” with those two schools. 5) Once they’ve conferred, all 3 will approach the PL and discuss the possibility of a merger (under certain conditions, such as allowing non medical redshirts) 6) I think the PL will be pressured by Fordham and HC to agree to most of the demands from “the Big 3.” 7) The big 3 will agree to join the PL. Georgetown will exit stage right (probably will head to Pioneer) and Bucknell will be told to “step up and adapt” or look for a new conference. 8) We pop the champagne and celebrate this wonderful new version of the PL! W&M for all sports and Villanova and Richmond for football associate membership? Yawn. |
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Post by Chu Chu on Nov 27, 2023 14:47:45 GMT -5
Pasted below is what I wrote in September on the topic of Delaware going to FBS: If Delaware leaves the CAA for greener pastures, I think the following will happen: 1) Nova is going to take a closer look at their football affiliation with the CAA. 2) Unlike what other posters think, I strongly believe they will NOT follow Delaware and make the move to FBS. 3) Nova will “look at the board” and realize that their real peers in football (after Delaware leaving for FBS) should be W&M and Richmond. 4) I believe that Nova will then “back channel” with those two schools. 5) Once they’ve conferred, all 3 will approach the PL and discuss the possibility of a merger (under certain conditions, such as allowing non medical redshirts) 6) I think the PL will be pressured by Fordham and HC to agree to most of the demands from “the Big 3.” 7) The big 3 will agree to join the PL. Georgetown will exit stage right (probably will head to Pioneer) and Bucknell will be told to “step up and adapt” or look for a new conference. 8) We pop the champagne and celebrate this wonderful new version of the PL! From your mouth to Gods ears! |
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 27, 2023 15:24:29 GMT -5
Was with you up to and including step 4. Then you lost me as any chance of steps 5 on from happening.
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Post by Ignutz on Nov 27, 2023 15:29:12 GMT -5
This will be the new CUSA membership once the Blue Hens join: Delaware Liberty Western Kentucky Middle Tenn St Kennesaw St Jacksonville State Florida International La Tech Sam Houston UTEP New Mexico St This league will certainly require a lot of travel for all sports. I cannot imagine that UD football fans, who typically travel in large numbers to away games along the east coast, will make a lot of future games outside Newark. This carries over to men's basketball as well. Delaware fans only had to drive to nearby DC for the CAA Tournament in 2023. Had they been in CUSA, they would have had to go to Frisco, TX. What an awful league - especially for a northern mid-Atlantic team. |
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Post by hcnj on Nov 27, 2023 17:21:06 GMT -5
6) I think the PL will be pressured by Fordham and HC to agree to most of the demands from “the Big 3.” 7) The big 3 will agree to join the PL. Georgetown will exit stage right (probably will head to Pioneer) and Bucknell will be told to “step up and adapt” or look for a new conference. 8) We pop the champagne and celebrate this wonderful new version of the PL! Not this nonsense again. If you don't want Georgetown, why not ask President Rougeau to have them expelled at the next PL executive meeting? Once the laughter dies down, they can get back to doing whatever PL presidents do. FF might mean that if all the other things happened, lot's of "ifs", then perhaps Georgetown might self elect to leave. The existing pl wouldn't push them out. I wish they'd adopt similar football commitments as the other schools. |
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 27, 2023 18:50:19 GMT -5
UD takes a page out of UMass's move out of the CAA where they were a factor in FCS to end up as a tiny footnote in FBS.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 27, 2023 18:52:10 GMT -5
Not this nonsense again. If you don't want Georgetown, why not ask President Rougeau to have them expelled at the next PL executive meeting? Once the laughter dies down, they can get back to doing whatever PL presidents do. FF might mean that if all the other things happened, lot's of "ifs", then perhaps Georgetown might self elect to leave. The existing pl wouldn't push them out. I wish they'd adopt similar football commitments as the other schools. And the PL is never going to tell co-founder Bucknell to look for another conference. |
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Post by trimster on Nov 27, 2023 19:11:56 GMT -5
Not everyone on the Delaware message board are thrilled about the move..
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 27, 2023 19:15:06 GMT -5
Not everyone on the Delaware message board are thrilled about the move.. I know the boosters and admins were ready from the minute they conducted a feasibility study, but I would think they would wait for another opportunity such as the Sun Belt. I hope Delaware factored in a lot of air travel into their budget. |
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Post by drjack on Nov 27, 2023 19:30:07 GMT -5
I think the move was "Get to the FBS now, figure out the rest later." which honestly may not be a terrible idea for a school like Delaware given how unsteady the college football landscape seems right now.
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Post by fillfittonfield on Nov 27, 2023 19:45:02 GMT -5
6) I think the PL will be pressured by Fordham and HC to agree to most of the demands from “the Big 3.” 7) The big 3 will agree to join the PL. Georgetown will exit stage right (probably will head to Pioneer) and Bucknell will be told to “step up and adapt” or look for a new conference. 8) We pop the champagne and celebrate this wonderful new version of the PL! Not this nonsense again. If you don't want Georgetown, why not ask President Rougeau to have them expelled at the next PL executive meeting? Once the laughter dies down, they can get back to doing whatever PL presidents do. Mr. DFW: I value your opinion on GU football and appreciate your contributions to this board and the AGS Board. However, I think you are missing my point. Not your fault. This post was not my finest writing. My central thesis is that, if Delaware goes to FBS, this event could trigger a discussion around PL rules (e.g. - non medical redshirts) and potentially lead to discussions around adding new members (Nova, W&M, and Richmond). Yes, it's a longshot. Believe it or not, I actually like playing GU in football and am fine with them being in the PL as an Associate Member (under the current rules). However, having read your posts and blog for many years, it is my understanding that the GU administration has a specific view on the role of football at GU. The administration doesn't want to offer scholarships. GU's admissions process/recruiting approach is probably similar to the Ivy League. Bottom line - GU takes a different approach to football than all the other PL schools. If the PL were to change rules to become more similar to other FCS conferences (e.g. - removing the ban on non-medical redshirts), I am not sure how GU would react. Would they want to be a part of a conference that would be moving away from an Ivy League model and towards a model similar to the CAA? I don't know. My gut tells me that they would consider leaving if there was a better alternative. That is why I referenced the Pioneer League. But, ultimately, you probably have a better insight on this than I do. So I will ask you...what would GU do under the situation I proposed? Would they stay in the PL with the new rules? I know other posters have different opinions GU. Some don't want them in the PL. But that's not me. I assume that your comment "If you don't want Georgetown..." is directed at them. Sincerely, FFF |
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Post by fillfittonfield on Nov 27, 2023 19:49:03 GMT -5
W&M for all sports and Villanova and Richmond for football associate membership? Yawn. NY...why do you find this league boring? Or are you just bored with this discussion (which is understandable).  I know your preference is an American East football conference. I've seen you write about this previously. Your proposal is compelling, and I like it. However, I'd prefer keeping the PL core and adding Nova, W&M, and Richmond. |
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