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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 10, 2024 23:13:20 GMT -5
Caleb was 52% to make the final free throw…. What was his percentage chance of drawing two pairs of aces, four in a row? Odds of Caleb making 4 free throws in a row are about 13-1. However, after he has made the first three he is even money on the fourth
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 11, 2024 5:06:55 GMT -5
I was about to give AU credit for playing with such a shortened roster, but then I read on their board that HC didn't win, AU just gave it to them. Fine, but someone had to take it then, now didn't they.
CREDIT to our guys for hanging in there when they were struggling to score. They kept the game from getting out of hand, which later game them the opportunity to take it at the end. And Caleb still had to make the free throws. Label it how you want to, doesn't matter when the final seedings are determined.
On to another big week!
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 11, 2024 5:12:59 GMT -5
Did the AU board even mention that HC was missing its best offensive player?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 11, 2024 6:42:57 GMT -5
AU kinda choked that away in my mind…but HC does get credit for tough defense down the stretch and making shots.
Did the AU board criticize Rogers for his bonehead move of grabbing Caleb’s jersey?
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 11, 2024 7:52:27 GMT -5
AU kinda choked that away in my mind…but HC does get credit for tough defense down the stretch and making shots. Did the AU board criticize Rogers for his bonehead move of grabbing Caleb’s jersey? Yes - that's part of the reasoning of the AU giveaway. Course Caleb was beating him down the floor. I do understand their thinking, but I just feel many fans sometimes forget there is a second team on the court competing. One other thing I am starting to get very curious about is AJ's minutes. It seems apparent now he is one of the few guys on the team that can create his own shot, whether it be off the dribble or creating space for his J. Yet his minutes seem to be very limited. Is he a worse defender than the others? Does CDP feel the law of diminishing returns will kick in if he over extends him? Or dare I ask, in this current age of poaching - is CDP deliberately trying to keep him under wraps, so to speak? It just seems he should be out there more often.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 11, 2024 8:11:24 GMT -5
I agree, Dave.
It was pretty sweet that Rogers is the one who crumbled down the stretch with missing the baby hook in the lane and the committing that egregious flagrant. He comes off as a little punk-ish.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 11, 2024 8:16:16 GMT -5
I agree, Dave. It was pretty sweet that Rogers is the one who crumbled down the stretch with missing the baby hook in the lane With Caleb having blocked his previous hook shot, that last shot was far from any “baby” hook. Caleb fully contested it, making it a strongly challenged shot.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 11, 2024 8:21:16 GMT -5
I agree, Dave. It was pretty sweet that Rogers is the one who crumbled down the stretch with missing the baby hook in the lane With Caleb having blocked his previous hook shot, that last shot was far from any “baby” hook. Caleb fully contested it, making it a strongly challenged shot. Sure, but he missed the shot and it was one he had been making earlier in the game. If he makes that shot, despite being contested, it’s likely game over.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 11, 2024 8:32:20 GMT -5
Caleb now with 51 blocks in 25 games.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 11, 2024 8:43:39 GMT -5
Caleb now with 51 blocks in 25 games. And 16 in his last four
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Post by hc6774 on Feb 11, 2024 8:47:53 GMT -5
I agree, Dave. It was pretty sweet that Rogers is the one who crumbled down the stretch with missing the baby hook in the lane With Caleb having blocked his previous hook shot, that last shot was far from any “baby” hook. Caleb fully contested it, making it a strongly challenged shot. I saw /remember the play from my man cave. Rodgers set up in the lane... Kenny right behind with his right arm wrapped around Rodgers' mid-section. my thought Kenny's going to get called for a holding foul; especially if Rodgers rolls to right on the catch to use his off/ left hand which had been effective all game. BUT on the catch he rolled out of the potential hold to his dominant hand & into Kenny's dominant hand for the block
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Post by timholycross on Feb 11, 2024 8:52:26 GMT -5
If he pushes Caleb a little versus what he did, most likely no intentional foul. Worst case scenario for AU, Caleb makes the free throws then AU has the ball in a tie game w/no shot clock.
Payton Pritchard made TWO shots Friday night from approximately the same distance as the AU miss. One counted, one was a split second after the light went on.
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Post by CHC8485 on Feb 11, 2024 9:22:35 GMT -5
AU kinda choked that away in my mind…but HC does get credit for tough defense down the stretch and making shots. Did the AU board criticize Rogers for his bonehead move of grabbing Caleb’s jersey? Yes - that's part of the reasoning of the AU giveaway. Course Caleb was beating him down the floor. I do understand their thinking, but I just feel many fans sometimes forget there is a second team on the court competing. One other thing I am starting to get very curious about is AJ's minutes. It seems apparent now he is one of the few guys on the team that can create his own shot, whether it be off the dribble or creating space for his J. Yet his minutes seem to be very limited. Is he a worse defender than the others? Does CDP feel the law of diminishing returns will kick in if he over extends him? Or dare I ask, in this current age of poaching - is CDP deliberately trying to keep him under wraps, so to speak? It just seems he should be out there more often. They also miss the fact that HC scored 11 points in the first 15 minutes of the game. 11 while AU scored 23. Then AU scored 11 points in the final 11 minutes of the game. 11 while HC scored 21. So one could say AU wouldn't have a lead to choke away if HC didn't choke away the first 15 minutes of the game. And yes I get the concept that choking occurs in late game pressure situations.
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Post by crusader1970 on Feb 11, 2024 10:58:13 GMT -5
AU kinda choked that away in my mind…but HC does get credit for tough defense down the stretch and making shots. Did the AU board criticize Rogers for his bonehead move of grabbing Caleb’s jersey? Yes - that's part of the reasoning of the AU giveaway. Course Caleb was beating him down the floor. I do understand their thinking, but I just feel many fans sometimes forget there is a second team on the court competing. One other thing I am starting to get very curious about is AJ's minutes. It seems apparent now he is one of the few guys on the team that can create his own shot, whether it be off the dribble or creating space for his J. Yet his minutes seem to be very limited. Is he a worse defender than the others? Does CDP feel the law of diminishing returns will kick in if he over extends him? Or dare I ask, in this current age of poaching - is CDP deliberately trying to keep him under wraps, so to speak? It just seems he should be out there more often. I totally agree with you.
Love to see more of him. He plays with energy and confidence.
In his 322 min he is shooting 40% from three, 80% from the line, and has an Assist/TO ratio of 2.33.
I sincerely doubt whether CDP is hiding him. If he continues his current play, I would bet his minutes will increase.
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Post by DiMarz on Feb 11, 2024 12:20:59 GMT -5
Yes - that's part of the reasoning of the AU giveaway. Course Caleb was beating him down the floor. I do understand their thinking, but I just feel many fans sometimes forget there is a second team on the court competing. One other thing I am starting to get very curious about is AJ's minutes. It seems apparent now he is one of the few guys on the team that can create his own shot, whether it be off the dribble or creating space for his J. Yet his minutes seem to be very limited. Is he a worse defender than the others? Does CDP feel the law of diminishing returns will kick in if he over extends him? Or dare I ask, in this current age of poaching - is CDP deliberately trying to keep him under wraps, so to speak? It just seems he should be out there more often. They also miss the fact that HC scored 11 points in the first 15 minutes of the game. 11 while AU scored 23. Then AU scored 11 points in the final 11 minutes of the game. 11 while HC scored 21. So one could say AU wouldn't have a lead to choke away if HC didn't choke away the first 15 minutes of the game. And yes I get the concept that choking occurs in late game pressure situations. One aspect I always think of, as a team, have the first run, the last run, and the longest run!
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Post by Tom on Feb 12, 2024 8:16:18 GMT -5
After years of horrible basketball, we talk about learning how not to lose. HC is getting better at not doing those things to lose games down the stretch. Saturday they were also fortunate, that American also needs to learn that lesson
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Post by Tom on Feb 12, 2024 8:31:56 GMT -5
The question was asked how long it had been since HC had won a winter homecoming game - guessing that perhaps since before COVID
I believe that this is the first Homecoming win since 2019 - which is in fact before COVID. However, in all fairness, I think Saturday was actually the first Homecoming game (never mind win) since COVID
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 12, 2024 9:09:11 GMT -5
Are we at the point yet where we should start to root for how we want individual upcoming league games to play out? I'm assuming at this point there is no catching Colgate and Lafayette (as the Leopards swept us), but should we also root for AU and Bucknell (except against HC, of course) to keep winning?
I'm thinking it's going to be very hard to do better than 3-3 the rest of the way (and that's not a given), which would make the final league record 8-10.
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Post by Tom on Feb 12, 2024 9:32:19 GMT -5
Are we at the point yet where we should start to root for how we want individual upcoming league games to play out? I'm assuming at this point there is no catching Colgate and Lafayette (as the Leopards swept us), but should we also root for AU and Bucknell (except against HC, of course) to keep winning? I'm thinking it's going to be very hard to do better than 3-3 the rest of the way (and that's not a given), which would make the final league record 8-10. 8-10 would be an improvement on last year's 7-11 Six games to go. 3 against the top of the league (including 2 against #1 Colgate). Currently in 5th place. IF HC can go 3-3, I like the chance of finishing top 6 and avoiding the play in game. On the flip side, both Army and Navy are only 1 game back from HC, and losing to either of them, would give that team a season sweep
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 12, 2024 10:37:58 GMT -5
Are we at the point yet where we should start to root for how we want individual upcoming league games to play out? I'm assuming at this point there is no catching Colgate and Lafayette (as the Leopards swept us), but should we also root for AU and Bucknell (except against HC, of course) to keep winning? I'm thinking it's going to be very hard to do better than 3-3 the rest of the way (and that's not a given), which would make the final league record 8-10. I’ve been at that point the last week or so. Lafayette collapsing against Lehigh wasn’t great. I just assume we are Colgate, Lafayette, AU, and Bucknell fans for the rest of the season, so long as they’re not playing us.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 12, 2024 12:38:47 GMT -5
In looking at the standings and tonight's and Wednesday's games, there's a decent chance we have a logjam of teams at 5-8.
Should Bucknell beat Lehigh at home tonight (probable), Colgate beats HC (very likely), Army beats BU at Christl (coin flip), Navy beats AU at Alumni (seems likely if AU is still playing with a depleted roster)...we'd have a five way tie for fifth place.
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Post by Tom on Feb 13, 2024 16:21:23 GMT -5
Random addendum to the American game. For Homecoming, all former players in attendance were invited on the floor. Pretty small attendance and zero players from the post Blaney era
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Post by Ignutz on Feb 13, 2024 16:50:21 GMT -5
Random addendum to the American game. For Homecoming, all former players in attendance were invited on the floor. Pretty small attendance and zero players from the post Blaney era I thought the same thing. I'm hoping that with a bit more success in the coming years, we might see some younger alums - Blaney era and since. In particular, I was thinking that the fans would like to see a Tim Clifford, a Kevin Hamilton, Torey Thomas, Keith Simmons, Dave Dudzinski, Dwight Pernell, Pat Doherty, Malachi Alexander, and Rob Champion ( HCDP had just departed to GMU, so this would be okay). For the record, Brian Wilson was at the game with his wife and two (cute) kids, but he didn't make it to the floor at halftime.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 13, 2024 17:33:55 GMT -5
Random addendum to the American game. For Homecoming, all former players in attendance were invited on the floor. Pretty small attendance and zero players from the post Blaney era I thought the same thing. I'm hoping that with a bit more success in the coming years, we might see some younger alums - Blaney era and since. In particular, I was thinking that the fans would like to see a Tim Clifford, a Kevin Hamilton, Torey Thomas, Keith Simmons, Dave Dudzinski, Dwight Pernell, Pat Doherty, Malachi Alexander, and Rob Champion ( HCDP had just departed to GMU, so this would be okay). For the record, Brian Wilson was at the game with his wife and two (cute) kids, but he didn't make it to the floor at halftime. What players did you spot? On TV, just the RPs and Pat Padden (mgr) I could identify.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 13, 2024 17:44:48 GMT -5
In looking at the standings and tonight's and Wednesday's games, there's a decent chance we have a logjam of teams at 5-8. Should Bucknell beat Lehigh at home tonight (probable), Colgate beats HC (very likely), Army beats BU at Christl (coin flip), Navy beats AU at Alumni (seems likely if AU is still playing with a depleted roster)...we'd have a five way tie for fifth place. Lehigh won in OT. So they're 6-7, logjam if it happens would involve 4 teams and be for 6th.
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