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Post by nhteamer on Feb 22, 2024 8:51:49 GMT -5
Go play across the country Vandy Rice Cal
EXPAND THE VISION HC!
Abandon the 1/2 century tradition of light/bushel.
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Post by trimster on Feb 22, 2024 9:13:01 GMT -5
I’d like to see UMass back but only if they agree to play at Fitton and bring their band as well.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Feb 22, 2024 10:16:45 GMT -5
BC more often than not rotates through local teams for their FCS opponent. HC-BC at least every 4 years makes sense for both sides. The Fordham Rams play in Chestnut Hill this year. Will Fordham travel for the game? Not as much as HC would but maybe similar to UNH or Maine? Similar to Maine. Fordham will probably get 2,000 people to make the trip if I had to guess. Not bad but won't be anywhere near our purple takeover of the entire end zone. Many Fordham students and alum have friends or family who went to or go to BC. So there will definitely be interest. I'm sure Fordham will do a good job marketing the game, organizing buses, tailgates, Boston meetups and such.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Feb 22, 2024 10:17:34 GMT -5
Go play across the country Vandy Rice Cal EXPAND THE VISION HC! Abandon the 1/2 century tradition of light/bushel. We are traveling to OH, IL and CA this decade.
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Post by hc1996 on Feb 22, 2024 10:31:57 GMT -5
The peer group we are hoping to be associated with currently is SDSU, NDSU, Montana, etc. We should be trying to schedule those teams regularly. Given their geography those teams are very used to travel. Let's work on home and homes with them. Would love to go see a game at Montana! That game day experience appears to rival many Power 4 teams.
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Post by bigfan on Feb 22, 2024 10:34:44 GMT -5
I don't think that fans are going to line up for a trip to Montana.
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Post by hc1996 on Feb 22, 2024 10:41:58 GMT -5
I don't think that fans are going to line up for a trip to Montana. They don't line up for trips to Colgate, Lehigh, Lafayette, Bucknell, Georgetown either. If we want to be the best we have to play the best teams.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 22, 2024 10:45:32 GMT -5
Enjoying the optimism here--a far cry from the same two PL schools who don't schedule anyone.
It's up to the new staff to determine how far they are willing to travel for guarantee games. Chesney seemed more comfortable staying in the region, but if Northwestern or TCU calls, pick up the phone. (TCU picked up LIU this year and has a number of openings going forward.)
At least no one is suggesting going independent...yet.
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Post by cruskater31 on Feb 22, 2024 11:34:37 GMT -5
I like balancing FBS gamesm have a non P4 game like a Buffalo or Northern Illinois followed by BC then back to a non P4 and back to someone like a Syracuse, Pitt, UVA. I like the idea of academic FBS schools like Vandy, UVA, Duke, Rice, Tulane, California, Stanford (who visited for women's lax- how did we pull that schedule off?)
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Post by Chu Chu on Feb 22, 2024 12:35:15 GMT -5
I don't think that fans are going to line up for a trip to Montana. This one will!
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Post by newadvisor on Feb 22, 2024 13:19:05 GMT -5
I like balancing FBS gamesm have a non P4 game like a Buffalo or Northern Illinois followed by BC then back to a non P4 and back to someone like a Syracuse, Pitt, UVA. I like the idea of academic FBS schools like Vandy, UVA, Duke, Rice, Tulane, California, Stanford (who visited for women's lax- how did we pull that schedule off?) If we could pull something off like this, how competitive would we truly be. The current budget doesn't allow us to compete with P4 programs consistently. Do I believe we are extremely competitive with group of fives yes.. TPTB would have to make some serious changes to nutrition and training staff to keep the athletes healthy with this sort of schedule. The problem is depth at each position, with only 63 scholarships vs. 85 for FBS pretty tough sledding for our Kids. Then comes, where does the money go for these games, seems to never make into the program playing in these kind of games. That's why it should end up in a general fund for nutrition solely for all athletes, just not sure the administration wants to spend the money where it needs to go to be competitive. If we OOC with the Missouri Valley each year instead of the IVY, we would get a better look from the selection committee. JMHO
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 22, 2024 13:20:14 GMT -5
Tulane would be a great choice. Daughter #2 went there but that’s not the reason I like it. Fine academic school with a new on- campus stadium after playing in the massive Superdome. Plus NOLA is a fabulous tourist city that would offer so much beyond the HC-Tulane game itself. I think a lot of alums would travel for that game
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Post by beaven302 on Feb 22, 2024 13:43:32 GMT -5
The peer group we are hoping to be associated with currently is SDSU, NDSU, Montana, etc. We should be trying to schedule those teams regularly. Given their geography those teams are very used to travel. Let's work on home and homes with them. Would love to go see a game at Montana! That game day experience appears to rival many Power 4 teams. Montana fans might want to come east for a game. While on the NYC subway, I once gave directions to a group of Montana State fans who were in town to see their team play Hofstra, which had a football team at that time.
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Post by Ignutz on Feb 22, 2024 14:17:47 GMT -5
Ok…I’ll go there. University of Notre Dame. Kit, get it done! No matter what team Kit might line up for us in the coming years, I would like to attend one of those games in Dublin, Cork, Limerick, Galway or one of the other 25,000+ capacity stadiums in the Auld Sod.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Feb 22, 2024 14:38:31 GMT -5
I don't think that fans are going to line up for a trip to Montana. This one will! Right there with you. Montana has scheduled buy games with other FCS teams in the past. Monmouth and Maine come to mind.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 22, 2024 14:40:27 GMT -5
I like balancing FBS gamesm have a non P4 game like a Buffalo or Northern Illinois followed by BC then back to a non P4 and back to someone like a Syracuse, Pitt, UVA. I like the idea of academic FBS schools like Vandy, UVA, Duke, Rice, Tulane, California, Stanford (who visited for women's lax- how did we pull that schedule off?) IIRC, Stanford had another game scheduled in the Boston area.. They didn't fly east just to play HC.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 22, 2024 14:53:53 GMT -5
Enjoying the optimism here--a far cry from the same two PL schools who don't schedule anyone. It's up to the new staff to determine how far they are willing to travel for guarantee games. Chesney seemed more comfortable staying in the region, but if Northwestern or TCU calls, pick up the phone. (TCU picked up LIU this year and has a number of openings going forward.) At least no one is suggesting going independent...yet. Go anywhere for the appropriate guarantee against an FBS opponent. It's the call for traveling thousands of miles for an FCS game with HC footing the whole bill that has me wanting more detail and breakdown of how it works.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 22, 2024 15:00:05 GMT -5
I like balancing FBS gamesm have a non P4 game like a Buffalo or Northern Illinois followed by BC then back to a non P4 and back to someone like a Syracuse, Pitt, UVA. I like the idea of academic FBS schools like Vandy, UVA, Duke, Rice, Tulane, California, Stanford (who visited for women's lax- how did we pull that schedule off?) IIRC, Stanford had another game scheduled in the Boston area.. They didn't fly east just to play HC. It was an impromptu affair after Stanford's charter plane was diverted to Worcester airport and stranded for repairs. Only kidding about that, planes traditionally got diverted from Worcester airport due to fog, not to Worcester. Unsure if advanced equipment has solved that issue.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 22, 2024 15:23:19 GMT -5
Right there with you. Montana has scheduled buy games with other FCS teams in the past. Monmouth and Maine come to mind. Who pays when Montana flies east for the second game in the home and home FCS series? The cost of giving up one of the four home games at Fitton (25% of the year's ticket, concession and merch sales) plus the cost of travel must be a large amount. Conversely, HC doesn't budget to get home revenue from it's FBS game but does count on four games at Fitton after one at Polar and one FBS and five FCS road games. A one-off game in Montana would likely replace a Fitton game. If it was a home and home series it would be great. If Montana's payout creates as much profit in excess of travel cost as an FBS game does, then that game could easily replace the FBS game that year, which may actually be better for FCS rankings but not guaranteed to be compared to an FBS game. That would be a big payout by Montana. Hard to replace HC fan engagement at UConn, BC or Army though. But why not try it once at least.
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Post by hc1996 on Feb 22, 2024 15:36:59 GMT -5
I think Montana at Fitton would draw a great crowd. Possibly one of the largest at Fitton in recent decades. Wouldn't they be, arguably, the best program to play at Fitton in many decades?
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 22, 2024 15:43:07 GMT -5
The peer group we are hoping to be associated with currently is SDSU, NDSU, Montana, etc. We should be trying to schedule those teams regularly. Given their geography those teams are very used to travel. Let's work on home and homes with them. Would love to go see a game at Montana! That game day experience appears to rival many Power 4 teams. When you say we are hoping to be associated with this peer group, does we include Vince? I could get into it as a fan who has enjoyed seeing HC bandied about among the contenders in the FCS blogisphere. SDSU gets the blood flowing faster than Bryant but it's a big expense for administrators.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 22, 2024 15:45:22 GMT -5
I think Montana at Fitton would draw a great crowd. Possibly one of the largest at Fitton in recent decades. Wouldn't they be, arguably, the best program to play at Fitton in many decades? UMass at Fitton in 2008 was pretty damn good. - Came into the game ranked top five in the country. - The previous season, they went 10-3, reaching the Quarters. Lost to BC 24-14, who reached as high as #2 in the country (Matt Ryan season). - In 2006, they went to the championship game. At that time, they were one of the best FCS programs around.
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Post by hc1996 on Feb 22, 2024 15:48:27 GMT -5
The peer group we are hoping to be associated with currently is SDSU, NDSU, Montana, etc. We should be trying to schedule those teams regularly. Given their geography those teams are very used to travel. Let's work on home and homes with them. Would love to go see a game at Montana! That game day experience appears to rival many Power 4 teams. When you say we are hoping to be associated with this peer group, does we include Vince? I could get into it as a fan who has enjoyed seeing HC bandied about among the contenders in the FCS blogisphere. SDSU gets the blood flowing faster than Bryant but it's a big expense for administrators. No idea what Vince's goals are for the football team, but I am still assuming that Chesney's stated goal of a national championship stands. So, do we want to be considered on par with those schools academically? I don't think so. Do those schools provide students with a great education? I'm sure they do. From a football standpoint, of course we want to be associated with them. They are the best at our level. We want to be in that top 10 conversation every year.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 22, 2024 15:48:33 GMT -5
I think Montana at Fitton would draw a great crowd. Possibly one of the largest at Fitton in recent decades. Wouldn't they be, arguably, the best program to play at Fitton in many decades? Best since the BC series ended probably. I bet there would be a bunch of cowboy hats in Worcester bars on Friday and Saturday night for a Montana game. If Chesney has success in Virginia, I Wonder if he could bring a JMU team to Fitton in the future?
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Post by hc1996 on Feb 22, 2024 15:49:42 GMT -5
I think Montana at Fitton would draw a great crowd. Possibly one of the largest at Fitton in recent decades. Wouldn't they be, arguably, the best program to play at Fitton in many decades? UMass at Fitton in 2008 was pretty damn good. - Came into the game ranked top five in the country. - The previous season, they went 10-3, reaching the Quarters. Lost to BC 24-14, who reached as high as #2 in the country (Matt Ryan season). - In 2006, they went to the championship game. At that time, they were one of the best FCS programs around. Good point. Do you know what the attendance was that day? I found it. 12,781. That's a disappointing number.
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