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Post by cruskater31 on Mar 29, 2024 14:14:36 GMT -5
BC up 2-1 on Mich Tech. A lot more than 2500 at this location. Looks to be a near full house of Eagle fans
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Post by 78purple on Mar 29, 2024 16:05:45 GMT -5
BC up 2-1 on Mich Tech. A lot more than 2500 at this location. Looks to be a near full house of Eagle fans 4 3rd period goals for a 6-1 BC win......
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Post by beachbound on Mar 29, 2024 21:35:26 GMT -5
Great games so far, Michigan Tech gave BC everything for 2 periods. RIT gave BU a good game and every other game has been a 1 goal or OT game. Going back and forth from Duke-Houston and Mich-NoDak. Great time for sports fans.
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Post by rf1 on Mar 30, 2024 9:07:58 GMT -5
BC up 2-1 on Mich Tech. A lot more than 2500 at this location. Looks to be a near full house of Eagle fans
Crowd of 6,988 for the Providence doubleheader. Springfield (which had nearby UMass) had 3,894. Even with hockey popular in New England, the NCAA Men's Hockey Tournament draws far less than its Men's Basketball Tourney when it is in the area. There were 19,144 at the TD Garden for the Men's Basketball Eastern Regional on Thursday. I can guarantee that Providence will have a bigger crowd for the first round of the men's tournament in 2025 than it did for hockey yesterday.
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Post by rf1 on Mar 30, 2024 9:17:54 GMT -5
These were the numbers for the last three NCAA Men's Hockey Tournament Regionals 2022 First Round Games (2) Worcester, MA 6,002 Albany, NY 2,345 Allentown, PA 2,155 Loveland, CO 3,138 Second Round Final Worcester, MA 2,848 Albany, NY 3,449 Allentown, PA 3,256 Loveland, CO 4,812 Total Attendance (3)
Worcester, MA 8,850 Albany, NY 5,794 Allentown, PA 5,411 Loveland, CO 7,950
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_NCAA_Division_I_Men%27s_Ice_Hockey_Tournament2023 First Round Games (2) Bridgeport,CT 4,462 Fargo, ND 5,061 Allentown, PA 7,067 Manchester, NH 3,631 Second Round Final Bridgeport,CT 4,557 Fargo, ND 5,326 Allentown, PA 8,375 Manchester, NH 7,143
Total Attendance (3) Bridgeport,CT 9,019 Fargo, ND 10,387 Allentown, PA 15,442 Manchester, NH 10,774
2024 First Round Games (2)
Providence, RI 6,988
Sioux Falls, SD 3,748 (1)
Sioux Falls, SD 5,691 (1)
Springfield, MA 3,894 (1) Springfield, MA 5,765 (1)
Maryland Heights, MO 3,148 (1) Maryland Heights, Mo 3,148 (1)
Second Round Final
Providence, RI 5,835 Sioux Falls, SD 6,113 Springfield, MA 4,407 Maryland Heights, MO 3,148
*The attendance is being listed with different numbers for same day games at the same site this year
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Post by cruskater31 on Mar 30, 2024 15:35:00 GMT -5
With the NCAA cut, do men's hockey site under report attendance so the NCAA takes less (like what we see with football playoffs)? Paging our friend WooRat
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 30, 2024 18:20:42 GMT -5
With the NCAA cut, do men's hockey site under report attendance so the NCAA takes less (like what we see with football playoffs)? Paging our friend WooRat I believe the NCAA controls enough of the game day operations that ensures this doesn't take place. People have opined for years that NCAA host sites have done this in the I-AA playoffs but in reality its actually more likely that regular season attendance is over-reported. Hence why a 6,000 crowd in the FCS playoffs "looks" like a regular season crowd of 9-10,000.
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Post by woorat on Mar 31, 2024 10:53:28 GMT -5
The crowd numbers are accurate. The NCAA has full control over the regionals and frozen four. But good question, cruskater 3.
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Post by rf1 on Apr 2, 2024 9:21:01 GMT -5
Maryland Heights, MO was the only site to sell out any of its games. It did so for all games as it had the lowest capacity of 3,148 (which was increased from its normal 2,500 for this event) . None of the other three venues had a game that was close to selling out. The best attended games at these venues were 5,765 at Springfield (cap 6,800), 6,113 at Sioux Falls (cap 10,678), and 6,988 at Providence (cap 11,273).
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 2, 2024 11:40:42 GMT -5
Maryland Heights, MO was the only site to sell out any of its games. It did so for all games as it had the lowest capacity of 3,148. None of the other three venues had a game that was close to selling out. The best attended games at these venues were 5,765 at Springfield (cap 6,800), 6,113 at Sioux Falls (cap 10,678), and 6,988 at Providence (cap 11,273). The Mullins Center up the road from Springfield in Amherst seats 8389 for hockey.
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Post by rf1 on Apr 2, 2024 12:07:18 GMT -5
Maryland Heights, MO was the only site to sell out any of its games. It did so for all games as it had the lowest capacity of 3,148. None of the other three venues had a game that was close to selling out. The best attended games at these venues were 5,765 at Springfield (cap 6,800), 6,113 at Sioux Falls (cap 10,678), and 6,988 at Providence (cap 11,273). The Mullins Center up the road from Springfield in Amherst seats 8389 for hockey.
The Mullins Center is the UMass on campus home which is typically frowned upon for the selection of regional sites. Given the attendance at nearby Springfield which had UMass playing there, the Mullins was also far larger than what was needed. Only one session (6,988 at Providence) this year in all the regionals had attendance greater than the Mass Mutual Center hockey capacity of 6,800.
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Post by cruskater31 on Apr 2, 2024 18:13:34 GMT -5
Some great playoff hockey from the past weekend. I wonder if the NCAA would agree to a 24 team field. You could either go first round games hosted by the highest bidder or do a "first four" with the last 8 teams playing at a neutral site and the winners going to play the no 1 seeds. One would emulate FCS the other, hopps.
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Post by woorat on Apr 3, 2024 8:37:34 GMT -5
Good thought going to 24. Do not think the NCAA will add 8 more to the mix. Would mean that 40% of all teams make the NCAAs. Would need to add several other teams to up the numbers. If you recall, when we created the MAAC Hockey League, the NCAA went from 12 to 16 teams.
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Post by rf1 on Apr 3, 2024 10:04:54 GMT -5
Would think with the difficulty of both filling the seats and even getting venues to submit host bids, the NCAA would be hesitant to increase the field. 16 of the 60 teams (26.6%) already make the men's hockey tourney.
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Post by bfoley82 on Apr 3, 2024 10:46:26 GMT -5
Would think with the difficulty of both filling the seats and even getting venues to submit host bids, the NCAA would be hesitant to increase the field. 16 of the 60 teams (26.6%) already make the men's hockey tourney. There is a percentage of teams that can make an NCAA tournament and I believe the hockey tournament is slightly over it right now.
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Post by rf1 on Apr 3, 2024 11:12:09 GMT -5
Would think with the difficulty of both filling the seats and even getting venues to submit host bids, the NCAA would be hesitant to increase the field. 16 of the 60 teams (26.6%) already make the men's hockey tourney. There is a percentage of teams that can make an NCAA tournament and I believe the hockey tournament is slightly over it right now.
As a point of reference, 18.8% (68 out of 362) teams make the NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament.
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Post by timholycross on Apr 3, 2024 16:39:17 GMT -5
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Post by bfoley82 on Apr 3, 2024 19:38:08 GMT -5
I had forgotten Binghamton was starting a team....A split is likely coming to Atlantic Hockey soon. Could America East start their own conference? They have UNH, Maine, Lowell, Vermont, Binghamton. I think they need one more program for an autobid.
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Post by woorat on Apr 4, 2024 10:31:12 GMT -5
UNH, Lowell and Vermont will never leave Hockey East unless their President's force them to.
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Post by rf1 on Apr 4, 2024 11:24:36 GMT -5
It is my understanding that there was once a proposal many years ago for America East to take over control of Hockey East. Hockey East had less members then and AE schools made up a majority of its membership. BU was however not for it and it failed to go anywhere.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 4, 2024 13:57:20 GMT -5
I had forgotten Binghamton was starting a team....A split is likely coming to Atlantic Hockey soon. Could America East start their own conference? They have UNH, Maine, Lowell, Vermont, Binghamton. I think they need one more program for an autobid. Without the Boston teams a good nickname for the new conference would be the Country Bumpkins.
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Post by bfoley82 on Apr 4, 2024 15:26:51 GMT -5
I had forgotten Binghamton was starting a team....A split is likely coming to Atlantic Hockey soon. Could America East start their own conference? They have UNH, Maine, Lowell, Vermont, Binghamton. I think they need one more program for an autobid. Without the Boston teams a good nickname for the new conference would be the Country Bumpkins. America East is actually physically located in Boston unlike Hockey East.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 4, 2024 15:33:41 GMT -5
Without the Boston teams a good nickname for the new conference would be the Country Bumpkins. America East is actually physically located in Boston unlike Hockey East. Why not pay the highest office rents in their footprint without a team in the city. It's only money. I'm sure they have a good deal and there are advantages to being in a transportation hub.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 4, 2024 19:10:59 GMT -5
It is my understanding that there was once a proposal many years ago for America East to take over control of Hockey East. Hockey East had less members then and AE schools made up a majority of its membership. BU was however not for it and it failed to go anywhere. This wasn't that long ago. Maybe 4-5 years ago. America East should be looking to spearhead a football conference first and foremost. They have the numbers now. It would prevent then from opening themselves to the possibility of Albany and/or Bryant leaving for the CAA in all sports. Plus, Sacred Heart and Merrimack are there for the taking. I'd be all for HC going all in on America East in all sports if football was on the table AND if we could leverage the relationships in conference to get into Hockey East for Men's Hockey.
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Post by bfoley82 on Apr 4, 2024 20:55:01 GMT -5
It is my understanding that there was once a proposal many years ago for America East to take over control of Hockey East. Hockey East had less members then and AE schools made up a majority of its membership. BU was however not for it and it failed to go anywhere. This wasn't that long ago. Maybe 4-5 years ago. America East should be looking to spearhead a football conference first and foremost. They have the numbers now. It would prevent then from opening themselves to the possibility of Albany and/or Bryant leaving for the CAA in all sports. Plus, Sacred Heart and Merrimack are there for the taking. I'd be all for HC going all in on America East in all sports if football was on the table AND if we could leverage the relationships in conference to get into Hockey East for Men's Hockey. Merrimack is in America East in men's lax already so there is a relationship but they are leaving when Merrimack goes down to the MAAC. America East Lacrosse > MAAC Lacrosse
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