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Post by Tom on Jul 19, 2017 14:37:43 GMT -5
Because it helps elevates lesser academic institutions like BC?
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Post by matunuck on Aug 7, 2017 9:53:28 GMT -5
FYI -- from Worcester Business Review:
Fidelity Bank gets naming rights to new Worcester rinks
BY GRANT WELKER
The ice rink and recreational center under construction in Worcester's Canal District will be named for Leominster-based Fidelity Bank.
The $18-million facility will be named the Fidelity Bank Worcester Ice Center under a 10-year naming rights deal announced Tuesday by the bank and the Worcester Railers HC. Terms of the deal were not disclosed.
The 110,000-square-foot Fidelity Bank Worcester Ice Center will open in September with two rinks, recreational space, a Reliant Medical Group's physical therapy center and a two-story restaurant called Nonna's Kitchen and Nonna's Cafe. Both eateries will be operated by Niche Hospitality, the owner of The Fix Burger Bar and Mezcal Tequila Cantina.
The Railers will use the facility as its practice rink, and Worcester State University, Becker College, Worcester Academy, the Junior Railers and Junior Crusaders youth hockey programs and others will play there. Railers owner Cliff Rucker is the owner of the facility, which is being built at Winter and Harding streets. The hockey team, a member of the minor-league ECHL, will play their inaugural game Oct. 14 at the DCU Center.
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Post by rickii on Aug 10, 2017 14:20:13 GMT -5
The only quasi good news on this is the Railers will use this as their practice venue and not the DCU. BTW, the Junior Crusaders....
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Post by Tom on Aug 14, 2017 7:57:43 GMT -5
The only quasi good news on this is the Railers will use this as their practice venue and not the DCU. BTW, the Junior Crusaders.... Local youth hockey team. I believe there are multiple Crusader teams at different age levels
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Post by bigfan on Aug 15, 2017 7:58:59 GMT -5
Why are we discussing the Railers, they have screwed us from HE, I hope they fail.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 15, 2017 8:20:27 GMT -5
Why are we discussing the Railers, they have screwed us from HE, I hope they fail. Did I miss something? I thought HE was still in play.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Aug 15, 2017 10:12:16 GMT -5
Why are we discussing the Railers, they have screwed us from HE, I hope they fail. Did I miss something? I thought HE was still in play. It is. Just would have been a done deal to start this season if the owner of the ferkakta R*ilers didn't put up a stink, or the desperate Centrum didn't sell its soul to their owner by essentially letting him draft his own agreement.
There's a reason why HE is playing w/11 schools this season, and it's not because no other school wanted in.
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Post by rickii on Aug 15, 2017 10:40:27 GMT -5
Did I miss something? I thought HE was still in play. It is. Just would have been a done deal to start this season if the owner of the ferkakta R*ilers didn't put up a stink, or the desperate Centrum didn't sell its soul to their owner by essentially letting him draft his own agreement.
There's a reason why HE is playing w/11 schools this season, and it's not because no other school wanted in. ACTP -
I dunno.... this guy has out-gunned HC with his bucks and pr savvy at every turn and I'd bet he parlayed a 'right of first refusal' clause in his deal with the DCU.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Aug 15, 2017 10:50:20 GMT -5
It is. Just would have been a done deal to start this season if the owner of the ferkakta R*ilers didn't put up a stink, or the desperate Centrum didn't sell its soul to their owner by essentially letting him draft his own agreement.
There's a reason why HE is playing w/11 schools this season, and it's not because no other school wanted in. ACTP -
I dunno.... this guy has out-gunned HC with his bucks and pr savvy at every turn and I'd bet he parlayed a 'right of first refusal' clause in his deal with the DCU.
You're making my point rickii: Centrum let the R*ilers owner dictate the entire agreement b/c they had zero other options for a winter tenant after the Sharks jumped ship and we're desperate. HC & HE got cozy long after the R*ilers got cozy w/the Centrum & Worc. Timing of HC and HE engaging was a year late.
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Post by rickii on Aug 15, 2017 11:02:17 GMT -5
But you feel HE and HC via the DCU is still in play ? That's what I meant by 'I dunno'. The situation looks pretty bleak now to me.
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Post by CHC8485 on Aug 15, 2017 11:11:44 GMT -5
Not sure if it was in an article or just on this board and I'm sure others will correct me if I'm wrong, and but I seem to recall that the "control" of the DCU Center (or right of first refusal if you will) was for Railers first year of operation - which could explain the HE willingness to wait.
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Post by realism on Aug 15, 2017 11:29:35 GMT -5
TPTB have no interest in an HC HE deal.. No deal if DCU is available 24/7. No money for a financial and logistical boondoggle. Move on........ Fantasize about HC going to the Rose Bowl.
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Post by rickii on Aug 15, 2017 12:21:16 GMT -5
real -
TPTB have no interest in an HC HE deal
Who/which powers ?
No deal if DCU is available 24/7
Sorry I don't understand.
No money for a financial and logistical boondoggle
I'm not totally sold on the finances being substantially more costly in HE/DCU versus where HC Men's hockey is now. And logistically, wouldn't there be a substantial savings in travel costs ? Seems clear to me that any monies would be better expenced in HE with increased media exposure thoughout the northeast and somewhat nationally aiding the BOT desire of increasing the HC brand.
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Post by realism on Aug 15, 2017 12:46:34 GMT -5
Pakachoag Phreek, on this board, has repeatedly presented the financial and logistical requirements of a deal. TPTB are the BOT.
Nobody else on this board has presented a fact based presentation of the cost/benefits of an HC HE deal.
The Railers/ECHL/DCU has been concocted as a red herring that preempts an analysis of real facts and the actual position of the BOT and the Athletics Dept.
I think both find the Railers/ECHL/DCU story convenient to divert questions from folks like the ones on this board that would require real substance. Why don't you open dialogue with the Athletics Dept and the BOT; start with DCU rent, HE's requirements, market expectations, etc.
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Post by matunuck on Aug 15, 2017 14:07:28 GMT -5
I remember all the talk on this board about how HC wouldn't bring back football scholarships for financial reasons, and what do you know? We did. I suspect we will be in HE within the next few years, but it won't be because of the financial windfall that awaits, as Realism rightly points out regarding cost.
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Post by Sader Fan on Aug 15, 2017 15:48:08 GMT -5
Talked to those in the know at reunion and we are definitely first in line for HE and HE is patiently waiting for things to sort out with DCU. The administration IS behind the move.
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Post by HC92 on Aug 15, 2017 16:26:49 GMT -5
TPTB have no interest in an HC HE deal.. No deal if DCU is available 24/7. No money for a financial and logistical boondoggle. Move on........ Fantasize about HC going to the Rose Bowl. Can we agree that you'll stop posting on the HC board and stay on your alma mater's board beginning the day HC announces that it has accepted an invite to join Hockey East?
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 15, 2017 16:42:54 GMT -5
Wait a minute...maybe "realism" has an idea there. It is very unrealistic, but wouldn't a hockey game in the Rose Bowl be pretty neat?
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Aug 15, 2017 17:12:30 GMT -5
TPTB have no interest in an HC HE deal.. No deal if DCU is available 24/7. No money for a financial and logistical boondoggle. Move on........ Fantasize about HC going to the Rose Bowl. Can we agree that you'll stop posting on the HC board and stay on your alma mater's board beginning the day HC announces that it has accepted an invite to join Hockey East? 92 - do yourself a solid and ignore this incoherent troll.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Aug 15, 2017 17:42:21 GMT -5
Who knew Tim Murray had found Crossports.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 15, 2017 19:14:48 GMT -5
I sincerely hope that the next time someone has a conversation with those-in-the-know about HC and HE @ the DCU, they inquire of the supposedly knowledgeable person(s) how much it is going to cost, and how will the cost be paid.
I had a conversation less than a year ago with a knowledgeable HC person about HC and HE, and I didn't come away with the sense that HC yet had an answer. This person did say that HC athletics was quite disappointed with student attendance at a HC game at the DCU last year (not the Parents Weekend game). HC offered free buses for students to go to and from the DCU, but these were greatly underutilized. The explanation, 'there were big parties on campus'.
Putting aside the cost of the replacement field house, which is largely already paid for, these are the other capital needs of HC athletics: an indoor track; locker rooms for several sports at the bottom of the hill, near Fitton; improvements to the football field / stadium; a new parking garage at the top of the hill <<<< these are not listed in any priority order.
And then there is the question of the rink. I got no sense that playing at the DCU is viewed as the long-term solution. How does one rationalize HC playing at the DCU if students won't go to games there? Its already difficult enough getting them to attend on-campus football and hoops.
Assuming HC finds the money to expand the existing rink. (HC would be hard-pressed to find enough money for a new rink, seating 4,000 or so, which IIRC, is what HE wants for an on-campus rink.) An expanded Hart rink probably wouldn't seat more than 2,200-2,500. And clearly no one has yet stepped up and offered to even pay part of the cost for expanding the hockey rink, --else it would be part of the capital campaign.
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Post by Wormtown Railers Fan on Aug 15, 2017 19:55:37 GMT -5
Did I miss something? I thought HE was still in play. It is. Just would have been a done deal to start this season if the owner of the ferkakta R*ilers didn't put up a stink, or the desperate Centrum didn't sell its soul to their owner by essentially letting him draft his own agreement.
There's a reason why HE is playing w/11 schools this season, and it's not because no other school wanted in. Why would anyone involved with the city of Worcester actually believe Holy Cross would want to play in a major conference in any sport. HC will never join the HE
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 15, 2017 20:08:52 GMT -5
Okay
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Post by hcgrad94 on Aug 15, 2017 20:40:47 GMT -5
It is. Just would have been a done deal to start this season if the owner of the ferkakta R*ilers didn't put up a stink, or the desperate Centrum didn't sell its soul to their owner by essentially letting him draft his own agreement.
There's a reason why HE is playing w/11 schools this season, and it's not because no other school wanted in. Why would anyone involved with the city of Worcester actually believe Holy Cross would want to play in a major conference in any sport. HC will never join the HE You aren't Tim Murray by chance are you?
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Post by hc87 on Aug 15, 2017 21:57:59 GMT -5
Holy Cross joining the HE, while an improvement on the AHL, moves the HC brand a few centimeters nationally.....it's college hockey, if you don't live in New England or the uppah Midwest, no one cares. It's such a niche college sport.
There is no way that HC hockey games draw huge crowds at the Centrum consistently.......it just isn't that big of a draw....with that, flame on.
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