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Post by wheeler5 on Nov 4, 2019 13:37:19 GMT -5
What's with the slow-motion hand-offs from CD to DC? He's holding the football as if it were a new-born baby!
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Post by wheeler5 on Sept 22, 2019 6:23:49 GMT -5
Meat says this offense stinks and Chesney is a lightweight. Nice crowd there today though. Lots of Yalies and a decent turnout on our side Meat says Chesney needs a big time OC Why would a big-time OC work for a small-time HC?
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Post by wheeler5 on Sept 22, 2019 6:11:02 GMT -5
Change our OC or this will continue. So obvious. Also like to try another QB. Real shame to watch our better than expected D get zero help from the offense game after game. You're assuming that the OC is some sort of autonomous position and Coach Chesney doesn't have any input, or even an offensive philosophy. Would it make a lot more sense to assume that this guy is doing exactly what Chesney wants him to do?
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Post by wheeler5 on Sept 4, 2019 8:45:55 GMT -5
Father Brooks accepted the vision of EBW, he did not embrace it! As a result he reverted to his vision when given the opportunity. What was the difference between those two visions, although I think I can probably guess? Sounds like there's a story there, and I would like to hear it. When I was a senior I interviewed father Brooks for the Crusader, and I was very impressed with him, but I don't know the backstory here.
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Post by wheeler5 on Sept 3, 2019 7:30:09 GMT -5
... once we establish a winning environment we can and should be able to use the enhanced schedule to attract talent and retain and pay coaches You're assuming that we'll establish a "winning environment." What makes you think that we can assume that? Can you ever assume you're going to win? What if we don't? Coach Chesney is still in his honeymoon period, so we should give him the benefit of the doubt. But the team on Saturday did not seem particularly well-coached. One kick returner for example seemed almost lackadaisical. Play calling was unimaginative. The defense could not defend against the option play even though they've known from the beginning that Navy's offense was an option offense. if winning were easy, everybody would always win!
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Post by wheeler5 on Sept 2, 2019 18:38:43 GMT -5
With all due respect, this is all just a bunch of wanking. Fr Boroughs and the Trustees make these decisions. I have a theory that he was sold a bill of goods by AD Pine and some others who had the harebrained idea of scheduling a bunch of FBS schools when we were getting our asses handed to us by PL schools.
Do you know why we had that run in the 80s? Two reasons: Fr Brooks and Edward Bennett Williams, two very serious individuals who knew what it takes to win. EBW flew out to Ohio in his private plane to pick up Rick Carter. That kind of thing can make an impression.
Do you really think it enhances our "brand" to to see our players get beat up by bigger, stronger, faster, and more talented FBS players?
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Post by wheeler5 on Dec 17, 2018 7:45:55 GMT -5
As I typed in another thread, while it's not out of the question that HC could attract an alum to be a lifer in the AD spot, if you look at what's happened with AD positions recently in the PL you'll see what the trend is. These positions attract rising administrators who will likely move on to a bigger, better job several years down the road. That's not a bad thing. Army and Navy could be viewed as "destination jobs," while the others by nature are going to attract a more transient pool of candidates. Whomever is the right fit for the position, whether it's an HC alum or not, will largely be based on what the President and BOT signal as the most important tasks they want the next AD to tackle. Now that Luth is done, what is/are the next big ticket item(s) to address? Win!!!
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Post by wheeler5 on Dec 16, 2018 14:08:01 GMT -5
An alum wouldn't....remember Ralph Willard? Comparing coaches to ADs, but the analogy stands. Ralph was not "on the way up" when he came to HC. He was well into his 50's and only became available to HC because he was fired from Pitt and HC gave him a sh*tload of $. He was worth every cent, but the Willard analogy doesn't work for what you stated you are looking for. Totally agree. Get a winner at whatever point in his career and pay him a pot o' gold if necessary. He's got to get a clear message from Fr. Burroughs--this is where the idea breaks down--As Talia Shire said to Rocky Balboa from her hospital bed...Win!!
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Post by wheeler5 on Dec 16, 2018 11:43:10 GMT -5
An alum wouldn't....remember Ralph Willard? Comparing coaches to ADs, but the analogy stands.
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Post by wheeler5 on Dec 16, 2018 10:49:31 GMT -5
Pine was a gifted marketer, but you can't tweet your way to athletic glory. Was there ever any doubt that he was here to get his ticket punched and move on? We need a real sports guy who's obsessed with winning and will hire coaches who are like-minded! Don't expect Fr. Burroughs to have the right instincts about this.
Let's invest in people, not buildings. Make HC a destination, not a way station. Get a serious, scrappy winner on the way up and link his incentives ($$$) to winning teams. If his coaches and teams are winning on the playing field, make him rich!!! 11
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Post by wheeler5 on Aug 20, 2018 8:50:23 GMT -5
Why are we celebrating good employees who move on to other jobs, like the associate AD who's leaving for Oklahoma? Shouldn't we be mourning this? I thought the whole idea is that HC should become a destination, not a ticket to be punched while people move on to something bigger!
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Post by wheeler5 on Jul 22, 2018 17:29:01 GMT -5
How did that happen? Because Holy Cross hired Rick Carter, not because of hype. I'm cheering for Bob Chesney to be the Patriot League Lou Saban, but let's see how early does first. I'd prefer that he be the PL Nick Saban, but Lou wasn't a bad coach himself.... Haha... Showing my age!
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Post by wheeler5 on Jul 22, 2018 13:50:46 GMT -5
Good point, and I hope it happens. But the only reason we were in the National Consciousness was because of Gordie lockbaum's 2 Heisman nominations, a once-in-a-lifetime occurrence. True to an extent but we were in the "national consciousness" in the 1-AA world anyway, pre and post Gordie. How did that happen? Because Holy Cross hired Rick Carter, not because of hype. I'm cheering for Bob Chesney to be the Patriot League Lou Saban, but let's see how early does first.
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Post by wheeler5 on Jul 22, 2018 13:22:32 GMT -5
Bringing HC sports back to the "national consciousness" is a fool's errand. Whose crazy idea was this? A tiny coed school in Worcester with stringent admissions requirements? Why don't we start with something real, like dominating the PL? I think the premise is that in the 80’s we were in the ‘national consciousness’ (and tiny and in Worcester and with stringent admissions) so we can get back to that level of ‘national consciousness’. Of course the premise (and the goal BTW) may be pure purple-hued fantasy but that, at least, is the plan. Good point, and I hope it happens. But the only reason we were in the National Consciousness was because of Gordie lockbaum's 2 Heisman nominations, a once-in-a-lifetime occurrence.
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Post by wheeler5 on Jul 22, 2018 8:46:35 GMT -5
Bringing HC sports back to the "national consciousness" is a fool's errand. Whose crazy idea was this? A tiny coed school in Worcester with stringent admissions requirements? Why don't we start with something real, like dominating the PL?
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Post by wheeler5 on Jul 19, 2018 10:26:28 GMT -5
NP is a very gifted marketer and a spirited cheerleader for HC athletics. As AD his core job is to hire winning coaches. The jury is still out on that.
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Post by wheeler5 on Jul 19, 2018 9:47:28 GMT -5
OK, you got me on the apparel manufacturer, and the dig about the shirt is admittedly not fair. But Edward Bennett Williams and Fr. Brooks, both serious individuals, were both involved in hiring Rick Carter, and I don't recall any crowing about games that hadn't even been played, do you? How about Robert Craft when Belichick was first hired? Do you really think either one of them would have put up with that kind of nonsense for a minute?
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Post by wheeler5 on Jul 19, 2018 8:58:38 GMT -5
Am I the only one uncomfortable with the Pine-esque hype about our new coach, i.e., the Chesney "era?"
How do we know it's going to be an "era," a sustained period of success? Is he the second coming of Vince Lombard or someone who looks good in Adidas shirts and was reasonably successful at the Division II level? Can's we wait for two or three PL championships before we get crazy?
Don't get me wrong. I'm cheering for the team and him and am personally very hopeful. But the best marketing is success on the field, not slogans that confuse aspirations with established fact.
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Post by wheeler5 on May 17, 2018 8:26:14 GMT -5
What are the chances of a major ass whuppin' for almost all of these games? 70%? What;s the point if we can't beat Colgate?
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Post by wheeler5 on Dec 30, 2017 8:01:14 GMT -5
Isn't the only way to raise the consciousness of HC athletics to win games? How about a PL football championship to get started? SOV is cleverly referring to Pine’s bio, in which he starts: “Nathan Pine is in his fourth year as the director of athletics at the College of the Holy Cross. Since being named the school's eighth director of athletics on Dec. 17, 2013, Pine has quickly revitalized the athletics program and transformed the athletics culture on Mount St. James to put Holy Cross back into the national consciousness, while continuing to honor the academic mission of the College.”OK, got it.I missed the sarcasm, if that was the intent. But whose idea was it to put HC "back in the national consciousness?" Reallly? Even if this weren't a fool's errand, which it is for a small school in Worcester, MA, you do it by winning games, like Rick Carter and Mark Duffner did, not by tweeting. .
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Post by wheeler5 on Dec 29, 2017 22:00:45 GMT -5
It hasn't helped place us back in the national consciousness? Haha well played, SOV. Isn't the only way to raise the consciousness of HC athletics to win games? How about a PL football championship to get started?
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Post by wheeler5 on Dec 29, 2017 21:56:04 GMT -5
ADNP's skills as a marketer, fundraiser, and overall cheerleader for HC athletics are there for all to see. Not surprisingly, if you look at his bio, all of his prior experience was in marketing, communications, and fundraising. Does he have the instincts of a hardcore sports guy for identifying and pursuing coaching talent? The statistic above would indicate no. You forgot to mention that Pine is the boss of the athletics department. Noticed many changes up there since he arrived? Luth, lots of coaching changes, I especially love the Carmody hire, thank you. And we have a athletics staff, media, social and otherwise, working just fine. Keep up the good work Nate I really hope Carmody is as good a coach as Ralph Willard, but have you noticed that the current record of the men's basketball team is 3-9?
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Post by wheeler5 on Dec 29, 2017 9:35:28 GMT -5
2 seasons above .500 in MBB, Football, and Hockey in the 10 seasons since Pine took over. ADNP's skills as a marketer, fundraiser, and overall cheerleader for HC athletics are there for all to see. Not surprisingly, if you look at his bio, all of his prior experience was in marketing, communications, and fundraising. Does he have the instincts of a hardcore sports guy for identifying and pursuing coaching talent? The statistic above would indicate no.
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Post by wheeler5 on Dec 27, 2017 9:12:28 GMT -5
This marketing theme has always made me uncomfortable. How do we know that we will? What happens if we don't?
Athletic success begins with good coaching and recruiting, not slogans, buildings, and hype. Does ADNP realize this?
We all wish Coach Chesney a smashing success, but a "nationwide search" it was not. Because Tom Gilmore was kept on board years after his sell-by date and had to be fired in the middle of the season, there was no time for that.
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Post by wheeler5 on Dec 7, 2017 22:12:32 GMT -5
I hope somebody knows what the strategy for HC football is has this ever been articulated by far Our Father Burroughs or adnp?
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