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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 23, 2017 0:28:18 GMT -5
How about our best % with that number of 2 pt fg ? ? There was one game with both higher number of 2pt attempts and higher 2 pt percentage= 21/32 in first game against Army, so 3 more 2 pt attempts and 3 more made baskets in that Army game
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Post by hchoops on Feb 23, 2017 4:01:31 GMT -5
Why did CBC take Benzan out at the two minute mark? At the nine minute mark, when our offense was struggling and Loyola making their run, why did we go into our incessant weave that never produces anything? 1-we needed more defensive rebounding and bigger defenders 2-that same incessant weave produced 18-29 2 pt fg
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Post by ncaam on Feb 23, 2017 5:07:40 GMT -5
Musings....
When Ant graduates the hapriest person will be gg smith.
Ant is playing great as his career winds down. Biggest beneficiary of that is pb.
Remember seeing a post that the former staff suggested mh would be a star as a senior. Is it happening before our eyes?
Great coaching job by cbc, but did he need to ice ant before the second foul shot?
Go Cross Go. Beat BU!
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Post by hchoops on Feb 23, 2017 5:12:51 GMT -5
That "icing Ant" was smart. If Ant missed the second shot, if we had not called a timeout, CBC would not have been able to remind the team that we had 2 fouls to give, and both how and when to give or not give them. we could not rely on GG calling his one time out.
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Post by ncaam on Feb 23, 2017 5:25:34 GMT -5
Coach had to know gg was gonna call time out. Two point lead better'n a one point lead.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 23, 2017 5:30:32 GMT -5
There was no guarantee Ant would have made the Ft without the TO. GG, like many coaches, could have chosen to play it out without calling his last TO, since we then could not call a TO after the miss to set up our defensive strategy.since the cloc would be running and the ball would be in Loyola's possession. There was no way that CBC "had to know" that GG was going to call his last TO. Many top coaches do not call it in the same situation.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 23, 2017 6:58:44 GMT -5
We were fortunate that NAD's friend Bill McCarthy overreacted on the Tech What exactly happened? I saw the Loyola player walk by the ref and then heard the announcers say there was a "T."
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 23, 2017 7:04:13 GMT -5
First, I think McCarthy is 45's friend more than NAD's. Second, the T was given at the far end of the court but he was complaining to one of the refs but I could not make out what he said. My often short memory was a complaint about who the ball had gone out of bounds off of. Think it went off him but guess he thought it went out on an HC player. Since my wife could not make the game, I offered my courtside seat to 45 so he could "chat it up" with McCarthy but he chose to chivalrously stay with his wife and passed up the opportunity. McCarthy tried to chat with me prior to the tipoff but I gave him the dead-eye. I was afraid if I befriended him, 45 would never speak to me again.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 23, 2017 7:09:53 GMT -5
Good to see Ziggy back from his injury What was the injury?
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 23, 2017 7:11:27 GMT -5
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.....wake me up when it's ovah What...who...did you say something? Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Post by possum on Feb 23, 2017 7:14:03 GMT -5
Loyola had Benzan trapped on sideline ball went out of bounds ref gave ball to HC at which point Walker started stomping around showing disapproval of call ref then over reacted and gave T not a good decision by ref
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 23, 2017 7:14:37 GMT -5
Coach had to know gg was gonna call time out. Two point lead better'n a one point lead. But, as the announcers pointed out, Loyola was probably be going to take a 3-point shot from near half court. If that happened, HC was still vulnerable. PS: Nice play call by Loyola - cross court inbounds pass that never came down inbounds. Solid defense help to cause that?
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 23, 2017 7:28:19 GMT -5
It is hard to believe that HC scored only 10 points in more than 13 minutes at the end of the game! In that same period, Loyola scored 23. Whew! It is amazing to remember that every point matters.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 23, 2017 7:33:36 GMT -5
It is hard to believe that HC scored only 10 points in more than 13 minutes at the end of the game! In that same period, Loyola scored 23. Whew! It is amazing to remember that every point matters. In addition to the scoring drought, our rebounding fell apart in the second half as well. I believe we out rebounded Loyola 13-9 in the first half and if that's correct that means they outrebounded us 20-8 in the second half. Partial cause was that we only missed 9 fg & ft attempts in first half but 16 in second half.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 23, 2017 7:43:27 GMT -5
It is hard to believe that HC scored only 10 points in more than 13 minutes at the end of the game! In that same period, Loyola scored 23. Whew! It is amazing to remember that every point matters. In addition to the scoring drought, our rebounding fell apart in the second half as well. I believe we out rebounded Loyola 13-9 in the first half and if that's correct that means they outrebounded us 20-8 in the second half. Partial cause was that we only missed 9 fg & ft attempts in first half but 16 in second half. It was at its worst in the first 14 minutes of the second half - as Loyola made its run. At the end, HC got some key rebounds to settle things down. Perhaps the worst missed rebound of the night was when 3 HC players surrounded a rebound, but no one could get a handle on the ball and we lost it out of bounds. What I also saw was that when things seemed to be turning as they did in some past games, HC never lost its poise and seemed well balanced on both offense and defense. AT and PB were two of the calmest players at some tense times. JF also showed his increased poise. One announcer pointed out that a foul of his was a "bump" when before he would simply have body slammed the Loyola player. Nice call. Te same announcer also said that HC was 1-1 against Colgate (oops!), and that Loyola was playing Northwestern (oops twice).
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 23, 2017 7:49:28 GMT -5
Could these technicals be due to The Kempton Effect? Maybe refs are sensitive because of big Tim. Walker said something,maybe a magic word that Billy Mac didn't like?
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 23, 2017 7:51:11 GMT -5
Could these technicals be due to The Kempton Effect? Maybe refs are sensitive because of big Tim. Walker said something,maybe a magic word that Billy Mac didn't like? Whatever that word is, I am sure we won't be hearing it from PB at any time soon.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 23, 2017 8:01:07 GMT -5
Yep, happened right in front of me as each of them thought the other was going to get it and as it started rolling out of bounds, I was screaming to them to get it . . . . . to no avail. These things happen but it just seems to happen to us more frequently. Will have to watch the replay as I think I jumped out of my seat.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 23, 2017 8:10:35 GMT -5
Yep, happened right in front of me as each of them thought the other was going to get it and as it started rolling out of bounds, I was screaming to them to get it . . . . . to no avail. These things happen but it just seems to happen to us more frequently. Will have to watch the replay as I think I jumped out of my seat. Ahh, now I see: the announcer said "there's a madman courtside" but I wasn't sure what he was talking about.
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Post by HCFC45 on Feb 23, 2017 8:33:49 GMT -5
First, I think McCarthy is 45's friend more than NAD's. Second, the T was given at the far end of the court but he was complaining to one of the refs but I could not make out what he said. My often short memory was a complaint about who the ball had gone out of bounds off of. Think it went off him but guess he thought it went out on an HC player. Since my wife could not make the game, I offered my courtside seat to 45 so he could "chat it up" with McCarthy but he chose to chivalrously stay with his wife and passed up the opportunity. McCarthy tried to chat with me prior to the tipoff but I gave him the dead-eye. I was afraid if I befriended him, 45 would never speak to me again. I was told about an hour before the game that "your favorite ref would be working the game". I said "oh, no"!!!
It's no secret that I am not a fan of BM! Ever since that game at Laf years ago when Andrew B took a shot to the nose early in the game right in front of BM and there was no call! AB with a bloody nose was forced to sit for some time! Yes, we lost that game in the PL tournament. Pat Doherty told us after the game that whenever they saw BM coming out they knew they were in for a tough night!
With that said, I actually thought he did a good job last night ! Regarding the technical... Loy plays tough, lots of pushing, shoving, banging and they get away with a lot of it. I got on BM a few times last night when I thought he should have called some of it. I would like to think that had an effect on him calling the T ! In my opinion the T was deserved and not an overreaction... I think it was PB bringing the ball up over mid court while being double teamed. He got bumped a few times and no call. the ball got loose and went out of bounds off a Loy player. Both players overreacted to the call of HC ball. One jumped up and loudly expressed his dissatisfaction with the call right near BM. He got the T! Overreaction? Yes, on the player, not the ref!
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 23, 2017 8:37:13 GMT -5
45...please keep up the good work!
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 23, 2017 9:12:56 GMT -5
From the Loyola site: WORCESTER, Mass. – Andre Walker’s made 3-pointers on consecutive possessions to give Loyola University Maryland a 62-59 lead with under four minutes to play, but those would be the game’s last field goals, and College of the Holy Cross scored the final four points on free throws for a 63-62 Patriot League victory on Wedneday night.
Walker knocked down a three from the left wing with 4:50 on the clock, tying the game at 59-59, and he then hit a 24-foot shot from the right side 61 seconds later, giving the Greyhounds (14-14 overall, 8-9 Patriot League) a three-point advantage. Holy Cross (15-15, 9-8) misfired on a three on its next possession, and the Greyhounds came down with the rebound. A Loyola turnover, however, put the ball back in the Crusaders’ hands, and Karl Charles drew a foul. He made the backend of two at the line, and it was a two-point margin with 2:46 to play.
Loyola used most of the shot clock on its next possession and came away without points, and this time Malachi Alexander went into the lane and was fouled for Holy Cross. He converted both free throws, and the game was tied at 62-62 with 1:58 on the clock. The teams traded empty possessions before Loyola misfired on its second-straight three, and Alexander corralled the rebound with just over 30 seconds left. With the shot-clock winding down, Anthony Thompson drove the right side of the lane and was fouled for Holy Cross. He made the first of two free throw to provide the final margin with 3.1 seconds left.
Walker led all scorers with 17 points and four assists without a turnover, while Jones and Cam Gregory scored 14 and 12, respectively. Gregory led all players with nine rebounds, and Jones had eight as Loyola controlled a 29-22 lead on the glass. Alexander scored 15 for the Crusaders, while Robert Champion had 13, and Matt Husek scored 12.
Holy Cross took a 12-point lead with under four minutes to go in the first half, and the Crusaders led 41-31 at halftime. They built that advantage to 14 early in the second half, and they led by 11, 57-46, with 9:51 left before Loyola went on a 16-2 lead over the next seven minutes.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 23, 2017 9:35:14 GMT -5
2 turning points:
1. Champion got dinged up (shoulder) around the 10 minute mark, seemed like Loyola made its run w/o him in there (and maybe one or two guys were in there too long because he couldn't be). Maybe fatigue had something to do with them settling for jump shots (and desparation drives when the shot clock was running out) for what seemed like an eternity.
2. Loyola missed a wide (very wide) open 3 when they went up 3...would have been a dagger as HC appeared stunned and disorganized. After that, the ship was righted. Believe after that possession, Husek got yanked (with enthusiasm?) and didn't get back in there until it was 62-62 and HC had the ball. Good as he was down one end, he wasn't doing the job at the other end.
My only referee complaint was that Charles got taken down VERY HARD in crunch time. Thought that was a flagrant foul. Only thing that would have changed would have been HC getting possession after he shot, but an extra possession was important at that point.
I wasn't surprised that AT came in for PB with the score tied and Loyola w/the ball in the last 90 seconds...I was surprised when Pat didn't go back in and HC had the ball. He's had more creative moments going to the hoop than AT...of course, it worked out quite well.
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Post by Tom on Feb 23, 2017 9:35:39 GMT -5
I find officials in general are quicker with a technical if there's a physical action involved (like jumping). Getting all demonstrative is seen as showing up the official and that can get a T quicker than a simple spoken word
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 23, 2017 9:36:40 GMT -5
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