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Post by rgs318 on Feb 26, 2017 11:52:33 GMT -5
Not just speaking of that . Look overall. Are they seeded low as us in ivy, what their OOC against better competition, have they won NCAA (non pig). We can't keep guaging on mediocrity. Need to shoot higher. Last year was a 20 loss team that played well against a week league. Doubt we will pull off again. Selective perception. If you are trying to say they are better talent than HC, why not look at head to head first? (By "pig," did you mean the "First Four"? The play in game abbreviation in no longer used by the NCAA.) I agree we should not aim for mediocrity. Agree we want to shoot higher, but do you think the coaches are not trying to do just that? Why? Last year HC lost 20 games. No need to doubt that will happen again. It won't. It can't be any worse than 16 losses (1 more loss in whatever tournament that loss occurs). Did you mean that we played well for a week, or did you mean to say the league was weak? I don't understand what you ask when you say "Are they seeded as low as us in ivy?" or "what their ooc against better competition?" If you mean their overall rank - yes, Harvard is rated higher by Massey. If you mean that Harvard's ooc was "better" than HC's I would have to check. The program has moved up since last year. When we lose our 4 seniors next season, it will be a real test. We may well see another 20 loss season as all of the younger players are pressed into service. (On the other hand, we may rate higher in the opinion of some if our frosh and sophs get move playing time than underclassmen got this season.)
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 26, 2017 11:53:25 GMT -5
Losing by 1 score in overtime is "getting killed?" Interesting.
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Post by crossbball13 on Feb 26, 2017 11:53:37 GMT -5
Scanlon, a frosh, killed us yesterday. Our frosh DNP...Ziggy?...oh my Compare our freshman class to theirs! Cmon What is our overall record In last three years? And theirs. I would take their progress. amaker is a great recruiter and we need that You think that recruiting at Harvard might be slightly different than recruiting at hc? For the next decade at the very least, I can unequivocally guarantee you that regardless of who the HC head coach is, Harvard will out-recruit us both on the scout websites' scale and via the eye test. Get over it. RJ was a great win by HC but, for the most part, his case study was an outlier.
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Post by ncaam on Feb 26, 2017 11:58:06 GMT -5
Maybe this guy should have had the ball in his hands at game's end?
Aug 10, 2016 at 5:06pm Quote
Post by hchoops on Aug 10, 2016 at 5:06pm
Aug 10, 2016 at 6:24am WorcesterGray said: One way of looking at the 2017-2018 Roster . . . Assumes Strzala's out of the picture
PG. Green, Benzan, Ziggy (CG) SG. LeSann, Copeland, Butler W. Cohen, Charles, Perkins F. Niego, Floyd C. Stevens
Lots of versatility and positional exchanges possible that can create some match-up problems for opponents, something Carmody clearly values - KC's can play anywhere from 2-5 (in a pinch) . All the bombers offset, even enhance, JF's somewhat limited offensive game by stretching the floor. Have to wonder, too, if MP's injury is an ongoing concern and thus the extra 2/3.
You may have to add Will Powers to the PG group
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Post by cfrivals on Feb 26, 2017 12:04:28 GMT -5
Will never get used to losing 15-20 games a year and being in lower tier of PL, sorry fellas!
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Post by Tom on Feb 26, 2017 12:10:13 GMT -5
A silly foul is the one Ziggy commited at half time. I would call it a silly foul if Ziggy actually fouled him. Horrible call - not a horrible play by Ziggy
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Post by ncaam on Feb 26, 2017 12:10:30 GMT -5
Will never get used to losing 15-20 games a year and being in lower tier of PL, sorry fellas! Get used to it. Likely two years of it coming up.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 26, 2017 12:31:26 GMT -5
Your esp is amazing. I am strained to make predictions about next year. You seem to know who will (or will not) be playing for HC is two years. How do you do that?
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Feb 26, 2017 12:40:38 GMT -5
Your esp is amazing. I am strained to make predictions about next year. You seem to know who will (or will not) be playing for HC is two years. How do you do that? Rob - makes you wonder why HC even bothers to lace 'em up for games, doesn't it.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 26, 2017 12:41:37 GMT -5
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Post by somedaycamesuddenly on Feb 26, 2017 14:33:43 GMT -5
Have to think BU will be treating this game like their Super Bowl, knowing that they don't have a prayer of winning the pL Tournament. Looks like there was a pretty good crowd. Happy to go back to Comm Ave with a super bowl victory and turnpike trophy.
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Post by crossbball13 on Feb 26, 2017 14:41:02 GMT -5
Have to think BU will be treating this game like their Super Bowl, knowing that they don't have a prayer of winning the pL Tournament. Looks like there was a pretty good crowd. Happy to go back to Comm Ave with a super bowl victory and turnpike trophy. Will laugh u beat the mighty terriers?
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Post by somedaycamesuddenly on Feb 26, 2017 14:54:27 GMT -5
Looks like there was a pretty good crowd. Happy to go back to Comm Ave with a super bowl victory and turnpike trophy. Will laugh u beat the mighty terriers? Eh, who knows, probably.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 26, 2017 14:56:50 GMT -5
Looks like there was a pretty good crowd. Happy to go back to Comm Ave with a super bowl victory and turnpike trophy. Will laugh u beat the mighty terriers? First, Lafayette must beat Loyola
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 26, 2017 16:03:29 GMT -5
Have to think BU will be treating this game like their Super Bowl, knowing that they don't have a prayer of winning the pL Tournament. Looks like there was a pretty good crowd. Happy to go back to Comm Ave with a super bowl victory and turnpike trophy. They gave the trophy to you, SCS...impressive.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 26, 2017 16:22:44 GMT -5
Looks like there was a pretty good crowd. Happy to go back to Comm Ave with a super bowl victory and turnpike trophy. They gave the trophy to you, SCS...impressive. I think both BU fans in attendance got a replica of the trophy........
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Post by possum on Feb 26, 2017 16:29:32 GMT -5
Just to set the record straight on RJ, Max Kenyi was top target that year for both Harvard and HC, Kenyi chose Harvard who then dropped pursuit of RJ, as things turned out we ended up with the better player.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 26, 2017 17:16:46 GMT -5
Getting a commitment from a player at one position dates not usually stop Harvard from pursuing their second choice
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 26, 2017 17:27:03 GMT -5
Getting a commitment from a player at one position dates not usually stop Harvard from pursuing their second choice After all, it's not like money is ever a problem for them.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 26, 2017 17:40:01 GMT -5
Getting a commitment from a player at one position dates not usually stop Harvard from pursuing their second choice After all, it's not like money is ever a problem for them. Nor a scholarship limit, more the issue here
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Post by sarasota on Feb 26, 2017 19:24:33 GMT -5
rgs- How efficient is the PO we are supposedly running? I define efficiency as a scheme that yields a high percentage of easier shot attempts and shot attempts more likely to draw fouls.
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 26, 2017 20:25:12 GMT -5
Sota,
I agree - sort of. "Easier"...than what? Our offensive scheme (the way HC plays the PO) does yield easy shots, but no scheme can guarantee putting the ball in the bucket. Can it? There is a difference between a scheme and the people who must execute it. It used to drive me up a wall when Torey woud get a steal, drive the length of the court and blow a layup at the end. It is no better today when MA, or PB, or AT or MH miss that shot underneath. The fact that a drive is more likely to draw a foul does not matter if the ref does not call it.
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Post by sarasota on Feb 27, 2017 1:10:06 GMT -5
rgs- Too many of our missed three pointers are rushed at end of shot clock because we are not running the PO efficiently. To me, it is so obvious.
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Post by joe on Feb 27, 2017 6:58:35 GMT -5
BU won the 3 point battle 14 to 11, 47% to 38%. BU shooters had a hand in their face for several of those. On the other hand HC missed several uncontested 3s. In my opinion this is where the game was lost. Hope to have our seniors see this BU team again somehow.
Agee that in the PO offense it's all about confidently knocking down a variety of wide open shots at various ranges. This is not as easy as it seems in the heat of battle. Not all ball players are good at this anymore. In most offenses you live and die now at one range - the 3 - or by driving intently to hoop and either scoring, getting fouled, or kicking back out for yet another 3. Rarely does one see a pass in the paint and if a 3 was there they took it.
One thing I will say is we are getting killed on the press. Teams are slowing us down so that we don't initiate the offense until there's about 17 or 18 seconds on the shot clock. The we weave for another 5 seconds and suddenly the advantage of the PO's ability to tire out defenses with ball movement has been eliminated. When there's no threat of us scoring quickly on a press break, teams will keep pressing.
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Post by HC92 on Feb 27, 2017 7:41:17 GMT -5
I did feel like we could have been a little more aggressive against the press, both in terms of getting it over mid-court more quickly and then in terms of pressing the action once we got there. Each time, we got it over at 22 and then made sure we got it back to the top and let BU settle into their zone while we set up our offense.
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