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Post by Tom on Mar 23, 2017 19:53:15 GMT -5
Last year, marvelous as their run was, HC did not win a game in the Round of 64--and they never will. Deal with it. Many would have said the same thing about Lehigh in 2011 I don't disagree that any PL win in the round of 64 is a long shot, but long shots do occasionally come in. In any given year, you'll always bet against the PL in the round of 64. In today's landscape, it is not totally unreasonable to think maybe once a decade the PL could pull off a win. Things go in waves. HC was in the PL hunt basically every year during the Willard regime. They haven't been since, but that doesn't mean they can't be again. Will that happen under the Carmody regime? Maybe yes, maybe no. Even if it doesn't, that still doesn't mean never. Heck prior to this year, the idea of Northwestern actually getting to the tournament was a pipe dream. As James Bond said in a lousy remake, "never say never" |
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Post by ncaam on Mar 23, 2017 20:20:00 GMT -5
Someday we will win a game in tournament. But it won't be next year or the year after.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 24, 2017 9:03:06 GMT -5
Of course, when we do we all be told by some that the round of 64 does not matter and that the "real" tournament starts only in the round of 32.  |
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Post by jkh67 on Mar 25, 2017 20:01:19 GMT -5
Stock Summer Session with some less challenging courses. Of course, a problem is the PL AI requirements. If one is serious about sports competitiveness on a national level, then we have to get out from under the AI requirements, which means.....get out of the PL. If not, then try to enjoy where we are. Face it. HC will never win an NCAA tourney game (not a play-in game). Take it to the bank. Personally, I can live with that just fine. Can anyone seriously believe that we will ever again be competitive in basketball on a national level!?! That's not to say that we mightn't upset someone in the NCAAs at some time a la Bucknell and Lehigh. But we're highly unlikely to become competitive on the national level on a regular basis without truly major changes which I don't believe will ever happen. And probably shouldn't. Even then, the odds would be long. For better or worse, we are what we are. A small Jesuit college in an old New England industrial town that had remarkable years of basketball glory in a different time and place and is today striving to regain stature in the lowly conference of which it is a member. The old days are gone forever. Unfortunately. Get used to it. |
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 26, 2017 8:35:27 GMT -5
Let me ask this: let's say that to move up to high mid/major status, our competitors for recruits will include 10 schools: BC, Villanova, Georgetown, Richmond, Davidson, Vanderbilt, ND, Northwestern, Rice, and Stanford (for the sake of a round number). If there are 13 schollies per school, there are 130 slots. Right now, of those 130 slots, how many kids do you think would qualify at HC (with today's standards at HC to gain admission)? 0-10? 11-20? 21-30? 31+?
Then - to maintain a competitive program year to year, what % of the pool needs to be able to get into HC. 10%? 30%? 50%? More? And (for the educators): is the eligible pool getting larger over the years (educational improvements)? Or is the ONE AND DONE message too strong?
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Post by DiMarz on Mar 26, 2017 9:05:31 GMT -5
For every 10 players who are eligible to gain entrance to HC, how many others could get into those 10 schools? 25, 50, 100? The HC pool of possible student athletes has to grow to improve recruiting...Does HC hold its accepted students to a higher academic standard than Bucknell, Leghigh, etc? that is question #1, and #2 is what are the goals?
NAD, we are saying the same thing...
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Post by hchoops on Mar 26, 2017 11:33:09 GMT -5
Let me ask this: let's say that to move up to high mid/major status, our competitors for recruits will include 10 schools: BC, Villanova, Georgetown, Richmond, Davidson, Vanderbilt, ND, Northwestern, Rice, and Stanford (for the sake of a round number). If there are 13 schollies per school, there are 130 slots. Right now, of those 130 slots, how many kids do you think would qualify at HC (with today's standards at HC to gain admission)? 0-10? 11-20? 21-30? 31+? Then - to maintain a competitive program year to year, what % of the pool needs to be able to get into HC. 10%? 30%? 50%? More? And (for the educators): is the eligible pool getting larger over the years (educational improvements)? Or is the ONE AND DONE message too strong? Pool is getting smaller the closing of many inner city Catholic elementary and high schools reduces our traditional pool especially as regards our PL competition. And even the Catholic high schools that are open do not have the same academic oriented basketball players that they once had. this is mostly based on NYC and Long Island which I know best. |
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 26, 2017 12:11:40 GMT -5
That's sad to hear, hoops.
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Post by sarasota on Mar 26, 2017 16:14:57 GMT -5
Still plenty of Catholic high schools (including Jesuit high schools) out there, but they're all over the Country. We need to cover the whole Country. Strengthen the Holy Cross Book Award in ALL Catholic schools. Lobby ALL college counselors at high schools.
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