Fr. K
Junior
Will not this be a bold undertaking? Nevertheless, I will try it. -Benedict J. Fenwick
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Post by Fr. K on May 12, 2016 11:23:55 GMT -5
Current class size stands at 765.
26 percent are ALANA students.
27 are international students.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 12, 2016 12:20:39 GMT -5
Thanks Fr. K.
For comparison and memorialization, for the class of 2019
Applications: 6,595 Acceptance rate: 37% Enrolled: 740 48 percent male, 52 percent female Students from public high schools: 51% Students from private or Catholic high schools: 49% Number of international students: 27 Countries represented: China - 12 Canada - 5 Somalia - 2 Nigeria - 2 UK, Korea, Hong Kong, Spain, Bosnia, Taiwan - 1
Enrollment by Region: New England 56% Mid-Atlantic 22% Mid-West 6% South 6% West 6%
Number of States Represented: 36 __________________________________ For the entire student body, 23 percent minority and international
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Post by hc6774 on Jun 5, 2016 10:09:06 GMT -5
Current class size stands at 765.
26 percent are ALANA students.
27 are international students.
Fr B reported to the HCAA yesterday that class size number is likely to 'melt' over the summer; this was in the context his discussion of the transition from graduation & alumni reunion events to the upcoming summer program for incoming freshmen.
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Post by matunuck on Aug 15, 2016 9:06:54 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Aug 15, 2016 10:24:51 GMT -5
53% female Does that increase the imbalance ? I certainly do not want to take an unqualified male over a qualified female, but I don't see that imbalance as desirable( unless I am a male student, of course)
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 15, 2016 11:59:38 GMT -5
The M/F imbalance is creeping to where it was a few years ago. Unless a LAC has engineering, its hard to maintain 50/50 these days.
Otherwise, I give Ann a big F for regressing on geographic diversity. IIRC, the school set a goal of 5 percent international. That's one failure point.
Comparing 2019 with 2020 Enrolled 740 / 768 M-F 48-52 / 47-53 International students 27 / 22 Number of countries (international students) 10 / 7 From New England 56% / 58% Number of States Represented: 36 / 31 ALANA percentage seems to be about the same. Not given for 2019.
Its more likely than not that her reliance on New England weakens the academic qualifications of the applicant/matriculant pool. This is the very thing that the re-accreditation committee warned Holy Cross about.
HC joining the Coalition for Access, Affordability, and Success seems to have had no impact. I'll concede that in joining late last year, it might be too early to draw a judgment about whether Coalition membership helps or hinders,... it certainly shouldn't hinder added visibility. ____________________________
Comparing with Colgate class of 2020,
Colgate enrolled 77 international students, about 10 percent of the class. Legacies comprise 10 percent of HC's class, 8.5 percent of Colgate's.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 15, 2016 12:32:19 GMT -5
I don't think numbers of international students are as important as the number of countries they are from. For example (an obvious exaggeration to make the point), if Colgate had 76 students from Canada and 1 from France, is that better than having 27 kids come in from 20-25 countries? I have no idea what the geographical distribution is of the international students is.
Perhaps many of the Colgate "aliens" are there paying full freight and ours may be more from poorer backgrounds and therefore not helping supplement the tuition totals. Of course, that is also rank speculation on my part.
I am in total agreement that we need and should be trying to expand the geographical distribution beyond New England and Mid-Atlantic states and Fr. Boroughs has made that clear over and over. If that is not happening, Ann may well be looking for retirement sooner than she might have expected.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 15, 2016 14:22:51 GMT -5
sader1970, Colgate has a map on its international students admissions page which indicates the home countries of Colgate's international students. I assume it is for all four years, but there is no date. From a page on Colgate's website on how international students should apply. www.colgate.edu/admission-financial-aid/international-studentsHC's similar page. www.holycross.edu/apply/international-studentsIMO, HC's webpage reads as if it were written by an admissions counselor, e.g., an emphasis on taking a campus tour, and Colgate's seems more oriented into what Colgate can offer you as an international student.
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Post by sarasota on Aug 15, 2016 15:12:12 GMT -5
Kinda amazed that 19% are first-generation. I like that.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 15, 2016 15:13:36 GMT -5
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Post by hcgrad94 on Aug 15, 2016 15:54:41 GMT -5
Kinda amazed that 19% are first-generation. I like that. If you had been listening the last few years instead of relying on your poorly informed opinions, you would understand that this is Holy Cross today. The school is doing amazing things and is far from the decadent, elitist Seminary you paint it as.
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Post by realism on Aug 15, 2016 16:06:50 GMT -5
The Colgate Admissions brochure for International Students lists each of the countries currently represented on the campus. International students represent approximately 10% of each new class. currently. www.colgate.edu/docs/default-source/default-document-library/admiss_2015_international-brochure_fnl.pdf?sfvrsn=0International students: 259 Countries represented: 72 Percentage of international students: 9 Dual citizens: 138 International and dual citizens represent:Algeria Australia Austria Bahrain Bangladesh Bhutan Brazil Brunei Darussalam Canada China Colombia Czech Republic Dominican Republic Ecuador Egypt El Salvador Ethiopia France Georgia Germany Ghana Greece Guatemala Hong Kong India Indonesia Iran Ireland Israel Italy Jamaica Japan Kazakhstan Kenya Kosovo Lithuania Mauritius Mexico Morocco Myanmar Nepal Netherlands New Zealand Nigeria Norway Pakistan Peru Philippines Poland Portugal Republic of Korea Romania Russia Serbia Sierra Leone Singapore South Africa Spain Sweden Switzerland Syria Taiwan Thailand Trinidad and Tobago Turkey United Kingdom United Republic of Tanzania United States of America Uruguay Venezuela Vietnam Zimbabwe
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 15, 2016 16:11:31 GMT -5
"No mas" ?!!!!!!!! I give no quarter. Boston U's entering class of 2020 is nearly 5x the size of HC's. Still, "The Boston University Class of 2020 is geographically diverse. Students represent all 50 states (plus Puerto Rico, the District of Columbia, Guam, and the U.S. Virgin Islands) and 117 countries." In 2015, there were 47,500 international students studying in Greater Boston, and about 8,000 in the rest of Massachusetts. Of the 8,000 elsewhere, 2,350 were at UMass. www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/11/16/number-foreign-students-boston-surges/0rrwqyAoHbSjn6f7chxxMI/story.htmlThey find their way to WPI, so we ought not blame HC's mediocre showing on perceptions of Worcester: 450 undergraduates at WPI. Clark has "900 international students, faculty members, scholars, and their dependents from over 90 countries." Mon Dieu, Assumption has students from more foreign countries than does Holy Cross.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Aug 15, 2016 16:45:22 GMT -5
Many schools have used international students to fill seats with full pay kids. Clark and WPI may not be able to keep the lights on without that revenue. HC has never focussed on this. Nice to have a small, but growing, community.
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Post by matunuck on Aug 15, 2016 17:22:33 GMT -5
Many schools have used international students to fill seats with full pay kids. Clark and WPI may not be able to keep the lights on without that revenue. HC has never focussed on this. Nice to have a small, but growing, community. Spot on, 94. Though schools wrap international outreach in virtue, it is largely about full pays. There is also a significant problem with the academic culture some students come from but that's a separate discussion. I'm more concerned with our geographic reach within the US.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 15, 2016 18:25:14 GMT -5
I wouldn't suppose that BC is a school that couldn't keep the lights on if not for international students.
Enrolling Class of 2019 at BC: 2165 total:
* International students = 192 or 9 percent of the class ** While international students for the class of 2019 are not broken out by country, there were 754 international U/G students at BC last year, 279 from China, and 20 from Canada. (What percentage, do you suppose, of the 20 represent M/W hockey players?)
* From New England, 33 percent of the BC class of 2019 compared to 58 percent for Holy Cross class of 2020.
* From MA, 22 percent of the BC class.
* From CA, 7.5 percent of the BC class (about as many as CT)
* From FL, 3.6 percent of the BC class.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Aug 15, 2016 20:01:47 GMT -5
Kinda amazed that 19% are first-generation. I like that. I like it too, as my sister's daughter is among this group in the Class of 2020!
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Post by hc87 on Aug 15, 2016 20:54:54 GMT -5
Great to hear ACTP.....congrats to her and your fam!!!
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Aug 15, 2016 21:46:15 GMT -5
Thanks 87. She got accepted ED this past Nov.
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Fr. K
Junior
Will not this be a bold undertaking? Nevertheless, I will try it. -Benedict J. Fenwick
Posts: 39
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Post by Fr. K on Aug 23, 2016 15:13:43 GMT -5
Preparations for the Class of 2020 (and returning upperclassmen) are running at fever pitch this week. The trench that will carry supplemental electrical power to the Luth building and, eventually, the performing arts center, runs from the south side of the Hart Center down the hill, across the lawn of Ciampi Hall, and eventually down to College Street. Traffic patterns are different every day between Hogan and the exit on College Street. Meanwhile, the ballroom area has been re-vamped over the summer and crews are working like mad to have it ready for this coming weekend. The summer of drought here has provided good weather for work on the new athletic complex, whose bare bones are more visible every day.
Edward Bennett Williams used to extol the goal of "having the dirt fly." He'd very pleased these days.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 23, 2016 17:46:42 GMT -5
Thanks Fr. K. for the update.
They are running a new 15 KV line between the south end of Luth to a swithcgear station to the east of Wheeler. The line runs along the west side of Hogan.
An option under the Luth contract is to replace the 15 KV line between Wheeler and Kimball, and between Kimball and Fitton. The terminus for the line at Fitton is near the NE corner of the stands, near McKeon Rd. If they also replace the switchgear, they would need to bring in a portable generator, and that would be positioned near Brooks-Mulledy.
As I recall the contract documents, there was uncertainty on the condition of the conduit pipe through which these lines run. If the conduit was in deteriorated condition, they were to excavate and replace the old conduit pipe.
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 24, 2016 6:09:44 GMT -5
An option under the Luth contract is to replace the 15 KV line between Wheeler and Kimball, and between Kimball and Fitton. The terminus for the line at Fitton is near the NE corner of the stands, near McKeon Rd. If they also replace the switchgear, they would need to bring in a portable generator, and that would be positioned near Brooks-Mulledy. Presumably there would be adequate provision for the flooding that occurs along McKeon
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 24, 2016 6:25:50 GMT -5
An option under the Luth contract is to replace the 15 KV line between Wheeler and Kimball, and between Kimball and Fitton. The terminus for the line at Fitton is near the NE corner of the stands, near McKeon Rd. If they also replace the switchgear, they would need to bring in a portable generator, and that would be positioned near Brooks-Mulledy. Presumably there would be adequate provision for the flooding that occurs along McKeon I took a Google drive. The switchgrear appears to be two green cabinets located at the east stands, south corner, bordered by ticket gates. (There are two home-made white crosees and an American flag next to the abutment where 290 crosses over McKeon Rd. The imagery is from October 2015.) I also 'drove' up Fitton Ave., under the south stands press box, and will discuss that in the Fitton thread on the football subforum.
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Fr. K
Junior
Will not this be a bold undertaking? Nevertheless, I will try it. -Benedict J. Fenwick
Posts: 39
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Post by Fr. K on Aug 24, 2016 8:43:47 GMT -5
Another innovation this year: with the Luth construction project underway, the lawn is not available for the Mass of the Holy Spirit on Saturday. That event will be held on the football field. I believe this will be the first College Mass on Fitton Field since the military Masses of a former era. (There was, at some point, a public Mass there with the comatose body of Little Audrey, a local phenomenon celebrated by some as a "victim soul," though that designation was not supported by authorities in the Diocese of Worcester.) The Baccalaureate Mass last May was held on the baseball field. At that time, the football field was in the process of having its grass replaced. This new venue on the football field should reduce the amount of noise from I-290, a minor issue during the Baccalaureate Mass.
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Post by CHC8485 on Aug 24, 2016 10:24:40 GMT -5
Did find the noise from 290 a bit distracting at Baccalaureate. Have to believe the football stadium will help with that.
At the start of the Luth construction, I suggested that the Fenwick lawn be used with the Chapel as the background to the altar, to Fr. Campbell. Getting enough seats in that space was his concern. Have to guess they could not get the requisite number, but am curious to know how may seats they could get in there. Has to be at least 3x the Chapel capacity.
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