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Post by sarasota on May 13, 2016 16:13:06 GMT -5
We came in 6th. Why are we always so awful??? We have excellent facilities for rowing. The coach has been here forever. Maybe it's time for a change.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 13, 2016 18:29:27 GMT -5
The first varsity eight should be about fourth. The second varsity eight should do better.
Almost impossible for HC to be ahead of BostonU and Navy. MIT women, don't have a sense for. MIT men used to be very competitive. Georgetown has a big program. So in essence, the fight is between HC and Bucknell (which I think has more scollies). Colgate, Lehigh, and Loyola lag.
Looking at the roster, one senior, mostly sophs and freshmen. Few rowed in high school, but played other sports. The other 'problem' is that the Power Five conferences use women's rowing as an offset for football. So why else would a graduate of Shrewbury HS row four years for Clemson?
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Post by sarasota on May 13, 2016 19:28:19 GMT -5
I thought the PL, with the exception of the academies, is a level playing field. Why should we regularly lose to Bucknell or Georgetown? Excuses, excuses.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 14, 2016 6:18:51 GMT -5
The PL is a level playing field only in those sports where the amount of scollies offered is the same/similar: e.g., basketball. Otherwise, your level of competitive success reflects how much in the way of scollie aid you provide, compared to others. Bucknell's spending on women's crew is nearly 50 percent more than HC's spending.
Boston Univ spends more on women's rowing than HC spends on women's basketball.
BostU and Harvard don't include high school bio info for women's rowing. Duke does. (Duke also has no men's crew.)
The high school bio for one of Duke's rowers.
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Nine on Duke's roster are from the UK or Canada. Very likely all are on full scollie.
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Post by sarasota on May 14, 2016 7:18:41 GMT -5
Duke's experience is irrelevant to HC. Why are you posting it? As for the PL, Bos Univ and MIT's campuses are right on their water, so I don't even compare them with HC.
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Post by bison137 on May 14, 2016 9:13:00 GMT -5
The PL is a level playing field only in those sports where the amount of scollies offered is the same/similar: e.g., basketball. Otherwise, your level of competitive success reflects how much in the way of scollie aid you provide, compared to others. That is often true but certainly not always. For example, Bucknell has no scholarships in men's lacrosse and men's soccer and has been very successful over time in both sports. They do have some need-based aid, but it is much smaller (and less effective) than the scholarship money given out by competitors such as Boston, Colgate, Loyola, and Lehigh. In baseball, Lehigh and Lafayette have some scholarships while Bucknell and Holy Cross have none. Yet LU and LC haven't been any more successful. |
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Post by sarasota on May 14, 2016 9:25:57 GMT -5
coaching and recruiting......
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on May 14, 2016 17:05:48 GMT -5
Duke's experience is irrelevant to HC. Why are you posting it? As for the PL, Bos Univ and MIT's campuses are right on their water, so I don't even compare them with HC. Its relevant because without scollies and recruiting, the strength of a rowing team is dependent on walk-ons with no prior experience; this is more true for the women, because there are fewer women's programs at the high school level. When a program relies on walk-ons, the usual approach is to create and race novice and freshmen boats, where rowing skills can be developed over several seasons. If you are seating freshmen or sophs with no prior rowing experience in a varsity boat, you will not be competitive, IMO, against boats where the seats are filled with experienced rowers. And as I mentioned, the HC women's roster is heavily laden with freshmen and sophs.. . |
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Post by sarasota on May 14, 2016 21:17:14 GMT -5
Well then there is imbalance on the women's team, i.e., not enough upperclassmen. Isn't that the coach's responsibility to manage?
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