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Post by rickii on Jul 19, 2017 11:20:54 GMT -5
In our favor is Edsal is the opposing coach....he's already run afoul in his second go-round in Storrs. But be advised if UConn begins to pull away, he'll have no qualms about running up the score.
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Post by HC92 on Jul 19, 2017 12:16:58 GMT -5
Hoping we (and I) can resist the temptation to talk about CTG's future until the end of the season. I have expressed my frustration in the past here but the kids on the team deserve our full support during the season. We have to turn the corner at some point so I'm hoping this is the year. If not, there will be plenty of time to get out the pitchforks after the season.
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Post by sarasota on Jul 19, 2017 12:43:37 GMT -5
Pujols will slice & dice
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Post by hcpride on Jul 19, 2017 16:15:08 GMT -5
OK, classmate. Honestly answer this question. The HC upset over BC in '42 was considered by most football fans for decades to be "the greatest upset in college football history." Do you honestly believe if HC beats UConn that it would supplant that title? Forget, college football history, just HC football history? I know this is off the topic but given the current difference in classifications (and athletes) a win over BC now would be a greater upset than winning in '42. (I admit this is with the benefit of hindsight but HC was not in a lower classification than BC in 1942, had similar athletes to BC in 1942, had lost by only one point to BC in 1941, and beat them four consecutive times following the '42 win.) How would a win over UCONN compare? Not sure.
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Post by hc87 on Jul 20, 2017 11:04:04 GMT -5
Without cheating (I had to to verify lol), can you name the last HC win ovah an FBS/1-A program that wasn't BC or a service academy?
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Post by hcpride on Jul 20, 2017 11:50:07 GMT -5
Without cheating (I had to to verify lol), can you name the last HC win ovah an FBS/1-A program that wasn't BC or a service academy? To be honest I thought the only teams were a beat up BC in the first year of the FBS/FCS split only (1978 and never again) and West Point a few times. I'll have to look it up and cheat I suspect there may have been a team transitioning between levels.
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Post by hc87 on Jul 20, 2017 12:20:40 GMT -5
I went back to our 1-A/major independent days.....
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Post by Tom on Jul 20, 2017 12:42:15 GMT -5
Without cheating (I had to to verify lol), can you name the last HC win ovah an FBS/1-A program that wasn't BC or a service academy? My guess would be some win from 1981, which as I recall was HC's last in I-A. I have it in the back of my mind that part of the drop to I-AA was that traditional rivals like the Ivies were making the drop that year and HC's traditional schedule suddenly didn't have enough I-A opponents to meet I-A criteria. Not looking anything up, but there had to be an Ivy or Yankee Conf win that year against someone else who dropped down the same year
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Post by hcpride on Jul 20, 2017 13:19:18 GMT -5
HC '87 I assumed you meant a win over IA (FBS) while we were I-AA (FCS). In the context of likelihood of HC beating FBS UCONN. So BC ('78) and West Point (a few times) were the only times I could think of when HC (I-AA/FBS) beat a I-A ((FBS) team. Thinking we became I-AA in 1978 - when the split first occurred. But now I think (having looked it up) we were 1-A until about 1981. So now I am thinking West Point is the only 1-A team we have beaten in the 35 years we have been a I-AA team. A very rare occurrence indeed. If you meant beating a I-A team while we were still I-A...I concur with Tom ).
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Post by hcgrad94 on Jul 20, 2017 13:27:41 GMT -5
Didn't we beat Rutgers in 1977 or 78?
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 20, 2017 14:02:00 GMT -5
Nope. Lost to them in '78 31-21; lost to them in '73 27-7 but did beat them in '72 24-14.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 20, 2017 14:12:48 GMT -5
Nope. Lost to them in '78 31-21; lost to them in '73 27-7 but did beat them in '72 24-14.I think that was a Joe Wilson 200+ rushing yards game
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 20, 2017 15:58:48 GMT -5
Uh, does Joe have any eligibility left? I already checked with Eddie Houghton and it was a "no."
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Post by CHC8485 on Jul 20, 2017 18:24:05 GMT -5
We beat Air Force in '78, but that's a service academy.
Also, you may need to qualify the question. HC didn't go to 1-AA until after the 1981 season. I think that the Ivys officially became 1-AA at the same time - possibly schools like UMass too - not sure when the the old Yankee Conference classified as 1-AA. So any win against many of our tradtional opponents from '78 - '81 may have been technically wins against Division 1A schools.
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Post by cmo on Jul 20, 2017 20:25:26 GMT -5
Bill Parcells' Air Force Academy
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Post by hc87 on Jul 20, 2017 22:40:29 GMT -5
Yup....I goofed, off my game during the Summer. You guys are right, the Ivies and Colgate were 1-A until 1982. Excluding the Ivies, Colgate, BC and service academies ...our last 1-A win was ovah Villanova in 1974. Our last non-BC, service academy win ovah a program that has remained 1-A to this day was indeed that Rutgers win in 1972 where Joe W had a career day. The Yankee Conference was actually D2 in football and became 1-AA in 1978 fwiw....
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Post by joe on Jul 21, 2017 7:09:24 GMT -5
Last 1A win was Army not so long ago, right?
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jul 21, 2017 8:05:42 GMT -5
Yup....I goofed, off my game during the Summer. You guys are right, the Ivies and Colgate were 1-A until 1982. Excluding the Ivies, Colgate, BC and service academies ...our last 1-A win was ovah Villanova in 1974. Our last non-BC, service academy win ovah a program that has remained 1-A to this day was indeed that Rutgers win in 1972 where Joe W had a career day. The Yankee Conference was actually D2 in football and became 1-AA in 1978 fwiw....?
Unless HC played D2 football in 1971, the Yankee Conference was not DII in FB.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 21, 2017 8:49:48 GMT -5
So in the 35 years we have been I-AA, we have beaten one and only one I-A opponent. West Point.
No wonder the UCONN (I-A) game would be a HUGE upset.
As good as Pujals is, UCONN will be the biggest and fastest defense he has faced in his life. UCONN knows that W's will be tough to come by this year - they'll be both healthy and focused.
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Post by sarasota on Jul 21, 2017 9:49:03 GMT -5
I can't completely shed my memories of the days when UConn fball was a joke. I shouldn't live in the past.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jul 21, 2017 10:04:22 GMT -5
I can't completely shed my memories of the days when UConn fball was a joke. I shouldn't live in the past. It still is a joke 'sota.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Jul 21, 2017 10:06:40 GMT -5
So in the 35 years we have been I-AA, we have beaten one and only one I-A opponent. West Point. No wonder the UCONN (I-A) game would be a HUGE upset. As good as Pujals is, UCONN will be the biggest and fastest defense he has faced in his life. UCONN knows that W's will be tough to come by this year - they'll be both healthy and focused. Correct but we have only played Army and BC (until 86) in those years.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 21, 2017 10:47:13 GMT -5
Uh, to quote the old New York lottery: "You can't win if you don't play." (Do they still say that?) Pretty hard to beat a D-I team if you don't play them. I believe the last time we played a D-I team was Army in 1994, 23 years ago.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 21, 2017 11:08:25 GMT -5
So in the 35 years we have been I-AA, we have beaten one and only one I-A opponent. West Point. No wonder the UCONN (I-A) game would be a HUGE upset. As good as Pujals is, UCONN will be the biggest and fastest defense he has faced in his life. UCONN knows that W's will be tough to come by this year - they'll be both healthy and focused. Correct but we have only played Army and BC (until 86) in those years. Of course. And probably a very wise move. We'll see how this UCONN experiment works out. Worse case outcome is not a mere blowout.
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Post by hc87 on Jul 21, 2017 11:13:26 GMT -5
Yup....I goofed, off my game during the Summer. You guys are right, the Ivies and Colgate were 1-A until 1982. Excluding the Ivies, Colgate, BC and service academies ...our last 1-A win was ovah Villanova in 1974. Our last non-BC, service academy win ovah a program that has remained 1-A to this day was indeed that Rutgers win in 1972 where Joe W had a career day. The Yankee Conference was actually D2 in football and became 1-AA in 1978 fwiw....?
Unless HC played D2 football in 1971, the Yankee Conference was not DII in FB.
The Yankee Conference was most certainly classified as D2 in football until the 1-AA level was created....I don't believe HC formally joined the Yankee Conference in football in the early 1970s...it was on a more "trial basis" before we pulled out of it. Edited to add: Here's how it broke down...just looked it up.....up until 1972, NCAA football was divided into "University" (which we were in) and "College" (which the Yankee Conference was in) divisions. On wikipedia (I know but it's Summer) we are listed as University every year but 1971 (the only year we were considered YC)...starting in 1973, we were D1 in football and the Yankee Conference was D2. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_NCAA_Division_I_football_season
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