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Post by ncaam on Jul 21, 2017 11:31:49 GMT -5
HC joined the Yankee Conf for one year, 1971.
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Post by hc87 on Jul 21, 2017 11:42:24 GMT -5
1971 (4-6) Coach: Ed Doherty Capt: William Adams, William Stachowski, Daniel Harper 9/25 Harvard A W, 21-16 10/2 Dartmouth A L, 9-28 10/9 Colgate H W, 28-14 10/16 Boston University (hc) H W, 28-14 10/23 Syracuse A L, 21-63 10/30 Northeastern (fw) H W, 17-7 11/6 Massachusetts A L, 27-38 11/13 Rutgers A L, 13-14 11/20 Connecticut A L, 17-24 11/27 Boston College N16 L, 7-21
I've always wondered about this (our YC year), I know it's touched on in Fr K's book...but if you look at our 1971 season, we hardly played a full "Yankee Conference" football schedule. No UNH, no Maine, no URI, no UVM which still had football then and I don't believe Northeastern was in the YC yet.
As i said, I think we were just dipping our toes in the YC that year and decided to back out.
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Post by zambonihomie13 on Jul 21, 2017 13:04:37 GMT -5
Correct but we have only played Army and BC (until 86) in those years. Of course. And probably a very wise move. We'll see how this UCONN experiment works out. Worse case outcome is not a mere blowout. I don't think the lack of 1-A teams was on our schedule to avoid blowouts but rather that 1-A teams were not allowed to play teams that didn't offer scholarships, or at least it would not count in their win total.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jul 21, 2017 13:26:43 GMT -5
Agree ZH - but wins counted, just not toward bowl eligibility if the 1AA opponent offered < 56.7 total schollies. I assume that's what you meant.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 21, 2017 13:48:04 GMT -5
Lots of good reasons Patriot League teams have very infrequently played FBS teams. Of course, there are also good reasons for a FBS team to schedule a FCS cupcake. FWIW Colgate has played Syracuse 3 times since 1986 ('87, '10, and '16) and been shellacked each time.
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Post by zambonihomie13 on Jul 21, 2017 20:31:20 GMT -5
Yes but I think the main reason is because of the bowl eligibility requirements that ACTP mentioned. Until 2013 or so, a win against a Patriot League team would not have counted for their bowl eligibility. That 2010 Colgate-Cuse game is a bit of an outlier if I remember correctly, Cuse was desperate to fill in a slot on their schedule, and even if 'Gate had been offering scholarships at the time, a win would not have counted towards their bowl eligibility anyways since it was the second FCS team on their schedule (only 1 win against FCS teams with scholoarships counts for that). Either way, let's hope we can add UConn to the list with West Point this season.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 22, 2017 7:30:55 GMT -5
While the rule on bowl eligibility credit for DI-A schools obviously was not the original reason HC (DI-AA) cancelled the BC (DI-A) series, it certainly has been the factor limiting matchups. Now that schollies are in the Patriot League some of the many other factors limiting matchups are (or soon will be) evident.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 22, 2017 11:33:10 GMT -5
While the rule on bowl eligibility credit for DI-A schools obviously was not the original reason HC (DI-AA) cancelled the BC (DI-A) series, it certainly has been the factor limiting matchups. Now that schollies are in the Patriot League some of the many other factors limiting matchups are (or soon will be) evident. The rule on bowl eligibility didn't come into play until about 2005. Up until 2004 Patriot League teams played FBS schools with some level of regularity. Obviously, we played and beat a god-awful 1-10 Army team in'02, Colgate shellacked Buffalo during their 2003 15-1 season and Lehigh played UConn and Buffalo as well IIRC. From 2005-2009 there were no PL-FBS matchups with 'Gate-'Cuse breaking the dry spell in 2010 as ZH mentioned.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 25, 2017 16:34:48 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 8, 2017 22:41:19 GMT -5
In case anyone was wondering, Holy Cross leads the all time series vs. UConn 19-8-1.
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Post by alum on Aug 11, 2017 8:01:45 GMT -5
I am starting to think that the UCONN game may not be as much of a rout as many here believe. See this article www.theuconnblog.com/2017/8/7/16110544/uconn-football-quarterback-donovan-williams-wide-receiver-vontae-diggs-injurywhich would seem to indicate that UCONN has a QB problem. I am not suggesting that we will win, but I am thinking that we could hang in there before giving up some late scores. That was what happened to Nova in 2015 and Maine last year in season openers by FCS teams against UCONN at the Rent. My greatest worry about this game is the potential for injury against a team with bigger, faster, more athletic linemen and linebackers. I would hate to see us lose somebody for the season in a non conference game in week 1.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 11, 2017 10:16:26 GMT -5
I agree and as I posted July 19:
I don't worry about the size of UConn. Our guys are plenty big enough. We are not playing an NFL team. But I do worry about injuries. I recall big Don Matheney, one of our biggest defensive lineman ever at 300+ lbs being injured on a illegal block by a Hoya player that was not called or seen by the refs, putting him out for the season. It wasn't the size of the Hoya player that hurt him. In any game, a player can be injured, sometimes without even any contact. Don eventually recovered but transferred to Ohio State. A loss for us!
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 11, 2017 11:46:40 GMT -5
I remember that play and it cost us a good player...since after returning for a season and not starting, he transferred to Ohio State as a walk-on. That cheap shot was indeed costly for HC.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 11, 2017 12:28:04 GMT -5
Rob, decided to give you a "thumbs up" and a "thumbs down." The "up" is for agreement, the "down" is for I don't like that this happened - cheap shot that cost us big time. Don had the potential to be a great defensive player for us clogging up the middle.
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 11, 2017 12:53:23 GMT -5
Nice innovation...I used it as well.
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Post by timholycross on Aug 13, 2017 4:55:07 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Aug 13, 2017 13:48:47 GMT -5
Who is getting tickets from the HC allotment? Trying to decide whether to do that or get better seats on my own. Suspect it will be a buyer's market.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 13, 2017 16:33:27 GMT -5
You are probably right but I ordered my tickets through HC a week or so ago.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Aug 13, 2017 21:26:37 GMT -5
I ordered my tickets for the HC section. Tickets will be mailed on 8/16/17.
Wished the the game was Saturday afternoon, but understanding that it is Labor Day weekend, maybe it is best so that everyone can enjoy a long weekend at the beach.
Hope to see you at the Rent.
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Post by alum on Aug 14, 2017 10:30:17 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on Aug 14, 2017 10:53:53 GMT -5
I just have an unsettling feeling that our HC squad (including quarterback) will be playing against the biggest/fastest/strongest athletes they have ever faced. If we are pass-happy and predictably so, the o-line will be facing their toughest test ever.
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Post by lou on Aug 14, 2017 11:24:11 GMT -5
Quite an interview by Edsel ... He's starting because, you know, because of what I saw, blah, blah
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 14, 2017 20:32:06 GMT -5
Still too early to tell as I cannot find a depth chart for the Huskies. Their 2017 roster is public and I am concerned about their experience as much as their size (unknown how fast/quick they are). Making a huge assumption that starting players still on the roster from their last game against Tulane would start (Edsal may well not play them, after all), here are some of the sizes/experience:
On offense:
Center Ryan Crozier is a red shirt junior and 6'4" 300 lbs. Left tackle Matt Peart is a red shirt sophomore and 6'7" 304 lbs. Right guard Trey Rutherford is a senior and 6'5" 311 lbs.
They lost a 6'6" 316 lbs left guard and 6'8" 325 lbs right tackle.
Those are big boys but we have had similar sized offensive lines in the Randolph years (actually, larger). When you look at the Husky roster, probably half or more have "RS" next to their names (surprise! uh, no).
Using the same, perhaps flawed, logic, our offense will play against, 3 of 4 returning linemen and 2 of 3 returning linebackers:
DE Cole Ormsby is a red shirt senior and 6'3" 262 lbs. DT Folorunso Fatukasi is another red shirt senior and 6'4" 315 lbs. DE Luke Casrrezola is "just" a senior and 6'3" 255 lbs.
The two returning linebackers are: Vontae Diggs a senior and 6'2" 221 lbs. Junior Joseph a red shirt senior with NFL size 6'1" 242 lbs.
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Post by ncaam on Aug 14, 2017 20:37:52 GMT -5
How big is the pay check?
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Post by hcgrad94 on Aug 14, 2017 20:40:28 GMT -5
All I know is I saw them play Maine and their first game last year and I think they won by a field goal. They will have a slight speed advantage and size in some areas, but folks who think that this is going to be some kind of a physical mismatch are wrong. Our biggest issue is going to be depth, where if we have some injuries going into the game or during it, we will be forced to play some younger kids who without the benefit of a redshirt year will be by definition a little under-sized.
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