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Post by hchoops on Jul 21, 2017 17:08:20 GMT -5
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Post by deep Purple on Jul 22, 2017 13:02:07 GMT -5
No DCU games? I wonder if the Railers guy has vetoed any future games there?
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Post by hchoops on Jul 22, 2017 13:04:54 GMT -5
And we are intriducing him and his team at a Football game ?
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Post by realism on Jul 22, 2017 14:49:43 GMT -5
i think the absense of any ( 0 ) HE games ( EVEN MERIMACK IN THE HART ? ) speaks volumes about the HE-affiliation-crap being shoveled out here!
Especially by those with "inside information."
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Post by deep Purple on Jul 22, 2017 14:54:00 GMT -5
And we are intriducing him and his team at a Football game ? I'll be the guy in the stands booing them
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Post by zambonihomie13 on Jul 22, 2017 16:36:31 GMT -5
i think the absense of any ( 0 ) HE games ( EVEN MERIMACK IN THE HART ? ) speaks volumes about the HE-affiliation-crap being shoveled out here! Especially by those with "inside information." There's only 6 non-conference games, lets not jump to conclusions. Not sure what "(MERIMACK IN THE HART ? )" even meant. The rumors about HC to HE may never come to fruition, but they didn't begin as "crap" on this board and have not been limited to this board. One would think that the women's team joining Hockey East would be more significant than 6 non-conference opponents not being from HE. Keep in mind many of these games may be pre-arranged home and homes (Brown, Union, etc.). Anyways, it will sure be cool to host a Pac-12 team, no matter the sport .
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 23, 2017 14:33:04 GMT -5
i think the absense of any ( 0 ) HE games ( EVEN MERIMACK IN THE HART ? ) speaks volumes about the HE-affiliation-crap being shoveled out here! Especially by those with "inside information." There's only 6 non-conference games, lets not jump to conclusions. Not sure what "(MERIMACK IN THE HART ? )" even meant. The rumors about HC to HE may never come to fruition, but they didn't begin as "crap" on this board and have not been limited to this board. One would think that the women's team joining Hockey East would be more significant than 6 non-conference opponents not being from HE. Keep in mind many of these games may be pre-arranged home and homes (Brown, Union, etc.). Anyways, it will sure be cool to host a Pac-12 team, no matter the sport . What good does a Hockey East team get going into the Hart?
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Post by crossbball13 on Jul 23, 2017 16:13:49 GMT -5
i think the absense of any ( 0 ) HE games ( EVEN MERIMACK IN THE HART ? ) speaks volumes about the HE-affiliation-crap being shoveled out here! Especially by those with "inside information." You're a joy.
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Post by JRGNYR on Jul 24, 2017 7:41:27 GMT -5
Back to back road conference weekends in early February at Canisius and Mercyhurst. Fun bus rides. Ick.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 24, 2017 8:11:50 GMT -5
Back to back road conference weekends in early February at Canisius and Mercyhurst. Fun bus rides. Ick. The team could always take the athletic Dept jet if it wasn't previously scheduled.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jul 24, 2017 8:24:22 GMT -5
Back to back road conference weekends in early February at Canisius and Mercyhurst. Fun bus rides. Ick. Travel skeds like this are one of the multitude of reasons why HC wants HE.
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Post by realism on Jul 24, 2017 9:29:46 GMT -5
" If only the Railers would get out of the way, TPTB would jump on an HE affiliation. "
This is the default position on this board which neither reflects current BOT thinking or sound business strategy.. Focussing on the Railers preempts examining the financial analysis that PP reveals are a much bigger barrier for consummating a deal. For the moment, let's set aside the cost of additional scholarships, which may occur by staying in the Atlantic Hockey League. Cutting to the chase, members of the current BOT don't see sufficient revenue generation during the multiyear ramp up, net of DCU rent and significant marketing costs, to justify a jump to the HE. Period. Full Stop. The HE deal requirements have been perused by some members of the BOT. I haven't seen anyone address them on this board.
If HE and HC are still dancing around a deal, as some here would suggest, why not safely test the financial waters in the interim. Schedule Merrimack, Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont ( the low end of the HE ) @ the Hart right now ? Scheduling the HE bottom feeders at the DCU would surely produce less net ( of DCU rent and marketing costs ) revenue than scheduling these teams @ the Hart. The current BOT argument is that net revenue from the big games with the BU's and BC's are not enough to compensate for the drag of the bottom feeders playing in the DCU. In addition to the shakey financial proposition, there's serious concern about the number of ramp up years as well as whether becoming an HE bottom feeder provides any real institutional benefits.
And the BOT are tickled pink that focus on the "Railers barrier" allows HC diehards to assume the BOT ( once again ) is not the barrier to fulfilling their fantasies. Go Railers !
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Post by bigfan on Jul 24, 2017 10:10:50 GMT -5
I hope the Railers average 100 fans per game. They will last three years at best.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 24, 2017 10:17:46 GMT -5
While I understand some of the animosity toward the Raiders, I am not sure how their demise will benefit HC in any meaningful way.
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Post by jflare on Aug 31, 2017 22:55:04 GMT -5
None of the regular season means much for this team and coach. Coach B. will need to at least win one game in March at some point in his HC coaching career if he wants another contract. Post season debacles of coach's entire tenure so far keep a big black cloud over this program.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 1, 2017 6:50:08 GMT -5
Sadly, I must agree. The lack of any post-season success is not a minor issue.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 1, 2017 9:58:02 GMT -5
I am reminded what ADNP said soon after arriving at HC. IIRC, his remarks were during an on-field interview at a football game. And the question was asked about HC changing conferences, particularly to a bigger and better conference (like the NBE, although I don't believe the NBE was mentioned.). And IIRC, ADNP said something like this, 'No higher ranked conference is interested in you if you aren't dominating the conference you are already in'.
HC is a small school, with a comparably small alumni base. Which are two strikes these days. And if you can't consistently win and be in the top ranks of the conference you are already in, that seems to me to be the third strike.
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Post by HC92 on Sept 1, 2017 10:00:22 GMT -5
Much smaller delta between Atlantic Hockey and Hockey East than between Patriot League hoops and Big East hoops. I am confident Nate very much wants to see us move to Hockey East.
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Post by matunuck on Sept 1, 2017 13:46:00 GMT -5
We will end up in HE. Be fun to look back at this thread.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 3, 2017 17:54:44 GMT -5
Much smaller delta between Atlantic Hockey and Hockey East than between Patriot League hoops and Big East hoops. I am confident Nate very much wants to see us move to Hockey East. And a MUCH MUCH smaller delta between Men's Atlantic Hockey and Men's Hockey East than Women's D-III and Women's Hockey East. Yet, we're making that move. If TPTB are ready, willing and able to make that upgrade for the ladies, you bet it is in the works for the men. Not to say it will happen for sure, but if the window opens, we'll be there.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Sept 4, 2017 16:59:25 GMT -5
Much smaller delta between Atlantic Hockey and Hockey East than between Patriot League hoops and Big East hoops. I am confident Nate very much wants to see us move to Hockey East. And a MUCH MUCH smaller delta between Men's Atlantic Hockey and Men's Hockey East than Women's D-III and Women's Hockey East. Yet, we're making that move. If TPTB are ready, willing and able to make that upgrade for the ladies, you bet it is in the works for the men. Not to say it will happen for sure, but if the window opens, we'll be there. Equating moving the Men to Hockey East and the Women to Hockey East is outrageous. Very, very, very few people follow or "care" about the Women's Hockey program, so if they go out and get steamrolled in the Hockey East, very, very, very few people will care. It's a much different story if the Men move up to Hockey East and fail. Also, "ready, willing and able" assumes that the Women are actually going to be competitive in the Hockey East, which is a huge long shot. And this isn't even taking into account the dollars that will need to be spent to get the Men competitive in the Hockey East, a far greater amount of money than will be spent on the Women's program.
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Post by crossbball13 on Sept 4, 2017 18:14:14 GMT -5
And a MUCH MUCH smaller delta between Men's Atlantic Hockey and Men's Hockey East than Women's D-III and Women's Hockey East. Yet, we're making that move. If TPTB are ready, willing and able to make that upgrade for the ladies, you bet it is in the works for the men. Not to say it will happen for sure, but if the window opens, we'll be there. Equating moving the Men to Hockey East and the Women to Hockey East is outrageous. Very, very, very few people follow or "care" about the Women's Hockey program, so if they go out and get steamrolled in the Hockey East, very, very, very few people will care. It's a much different story if the Men move up to Hockey East and fail. Also, "ready, willing and able" assumes that the Women are actually going to be competitive in the Hockey East, which is a huge long shot. And this isn't even taking into account the dollars that will need to be spent to get the Men competitive in the Hockey East, a far greater amount of money than will be spent on the Women's program. Oh a women's hockey expert to boot? Your endless knowledge never ceases to impress. Do you mind breaking down specifically why HC women's hockey is a "long shot" to be successful in their new league? Feel free to reference teams, players, coaches etc.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Sept 4, 2017 20:24:53 GMT -5
Equating moving the Men to Hockey East and the Women to Hockey East is outrageous. Very, very, very few people follow or "care" about the Women's Hockey program, so if they go out and get steamrolled in the Hockey East, very, very, very few people will care. It's a much different story if the Men move up to Hockey East and fail. Also, "ready, willing and able" assumes that the Women are actually going to be competitive in the Hockey East, which is a huge long shot. And this isn't even taking into account the dollars that will need to be spent to get the Men competitive in the Hockey East, a far greater amount of money than will be spent on the Women's program. Oh a women's hockey expert to boot? Your endless knowledge never ceases to impress. Do you mind breaking down specifically why HC women's hockey is a "long shot" to be successful in their new league? Feel free to reference teams, players, coaches etc. The old league was led by Norwich and St Anselms, the new league is led by BC and BU. That tells me everything I need to know.
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Post by crossbball13 on Sept 5, 2017 6:10:47 GMT -5
Oh a women's hockey expert to boot? Your endless knowledge never ceases to impress. Do you mind breaking down specifically why HC women's hockey is a "long shot" to be successful in their new league? Feel free to reference teams, players, coaches etc. The old league was led by Norwich and St Anselms, the new league is led by BC and BU. That tells me everything I need to know. Why did you exclude holy cross from the teams that led the old conference?
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 5, 2017 8:56:30 GMT -5
The old league was led by Norwich and St Anselms, the new league is led by BC and BU. That tells me everything I need to know. Why did you exclude holy cross from the teams that led the old conference? That exclusion tells me everything I need to know.
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