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Post by CHC8485 on Jul 27, 2017 11:05:29 GMT -5
Nick was the only Holy Cross player selected to a preseasaon all league team. Understandably a lot of Lehigh & Fordham players on the list.
Only a first Team All League is slected pre-season.
2017 Patriot League Football Preseason All-League Team
Preseason Offensive Player of the Year: Chase Edmonds, RB, Fordham (Sr.)
Preseason Defensive Player of the Year: Pat Afriyie, DL, Colgate (Sr.)
Offense
QB: Kevin Anderson, Fordham (Gr.)
RB: Chase Edmonds, Fordham (Sr.)
RB: Dom Bragalone, Lehigh (Jr.)
WR: Austin Longi, Fordham (Jr.)
WR: Troy Pelletier, Lehigh (Sr.)
WR: Gatlin Casey, Lehigh (Sr.)
TE: Dylan Wadsworth, Lafayette (Sr.)
OL: Ryan Paulish, Colgate (Sr.)
OL: Anthony Coyle, Fordham (Sr.)
OL: Ben Hartman, Fordham (Sr.)
OL: Zach Duffy, Lehigh (Sr.)
OL: Tim O’Hara, Lehigh (Sr.)
Defense
DL: Abdullah Anderson, Bucknell (Sr.)
DL: Pat Afriyie, Colgate (Sr.)
DL: Manny Adeyeye, Fordham (Gr.)
DL: Tyler Cavenas, Lehigh (Sr.)
LB: Ben Richard, Bucknell (Sr.)
LB: J’V’on Butler, Georgetown (Jr.)
LB: Nick McBeath, Holy Cross (Sr.)
LB: Brandon Bryant, Lafayette (Sr.)
DB: Bryan Marine, Bucknell (Jr.)
DB: Tyler Castillo, Colgate (Jr.)
DB: Abu Daramy, Colgate (So.)
DB: Caleb Ham, Fordham (Sr.)
Special Teams
PK: Ed Mish, Lehigh (Jr.)
P: Ed Mish, Lehigh (Jr.)
RS: Gatlin Casey, Lehigh (Sr.)
Non-Specialist Player: Khristian Tate, Georgetown (So.)
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Post by rickii on Jul 27, 2017 11:35:20 GMT -5
Wow....just wow.
Cripes, Hoyas have 2 reps and we have just the 1 rep !
I'm guessing ( really ? ) we'll be picked to be the caboose.
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Post by ncaam on Jul 27, 2017 11:38:18 GMT -5
Gonna be a struggle to .500
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Post by HC92 on Jul 27, 2017 12:21:56 GMT -5
Can't believe McBeath is already a senior. Time flies. Congrats to him. Let's get more guys on the post-season list where it counts.
And Chase Edmonds as POY? Please. What are the odds he'll be a stud for a fourth consecutive year? Not buying it. Serious regression coming!
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jul 27, 2017 12:39:34 GMT -5
Wow....just wow. Cripes, Hoyas have 2 reps and we have just the 1 rep ! I'm guessing ( really ? ) we'll be picked to be the caboose. I'm more concerned who is on the all-league team after the conclusion of the season - which will be a reflection on this season's performance, not who is picked before practice has even begun. Pre-season polls mean squat. |
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Post by sarasota on Jul 27, 2017 12:48:24 GMT -5
Sometimes reality creeps up on you and slaps you in the face. Reconfigure Fitton Field for Lacrosse and any other field sport. A highly selective Liberal Arts college with 1,500 men is nuts to pursue a Div I schedule including some FBS teams. The money could be so much better spent. Bite the bullet. Stop living in the past. The gnashing of teeth will be brutal, but we must stop being delusional.
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Post by dadominate on Jul 27, 2017 12:49:20 GMT -5
Wow....just wow. Cripes, Hoyas have 2 reps and we have just the 1 rep ! I'm guessing ( really ? ) we'll be picked to be the caboose. I'm more concerned who is on the all-league team after the conclusion of the season - which will be a reflection on this season's performance, not who is picked before practice has even begun. Pre-season polls mean squat. agree 100%. i don't think we'll be great this year (probably around .500), but i certainly don't think we'll finish in last, no matter how many players we have on this kind of list. team balance and depth is far more important in football than in any other sport, so it's not productive to deduce where teams will finish based on the numbers of players on preseason all league teams. although in fordham's case this metric would hold fairly well, as they should be pretty darn good. |
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Post by hchoops on Jul 27, 2017 13:20:32 GMT -5
A bit insulting to Pujals not to be first team ?
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 27, 2017 13:32:20 GMT -5
Being out most of last season has to have been a major factor. Plus the Fordham QB is highly rated, I believe, in his own right even if PP had played all last year. Hopefully, will make Peter even more hungry to show what he can do.
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Post by ncaam on Jul 27, 2017 13:40:10 GMT -5
A QB can't shine alone. Fordham has a high power offense, us not so much.
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Post by rickii on Jul 27, 2017 14:09:03 GMT -5
Sometimes reality creeps up on you and slaps you in the face. Reconfigure Fitton Field for Lacrosse and any other field sport. A highly selective Liberal Arts college with 1,500 men is nuts to pursue a Div I schedule including some FBS teams. The money could be so much better spent. Bite the bullet. Stop living in the past. The gnashing of teeth will be brutal, but we must stop being delusional. I presume you'd advise Colgate to do the same, yes ? |
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Post by sarasota on Jul 27, 2017 18:28:43 GMT -5
Sometimes reality creeps up on you and slaps you in the face. Reconfigure Fitton Field for Lacrosse and any other field sport. A highly selective Liberal Arts college with 1,500 men is nuts to pursue a Div I schedule including some FBS teams. The money could be so much better spent. Bite the bullet. Stop living in the past. The gnashing of teeth will be brutal, but we must stop being delusional. I presume you'd advise Colgate to do the same, yes ? Colgate's overall financial strength is greater than HC's. That's one factor. |
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Post by jflare on Jul 27, 2017 18:46:03 GMT -5
Sometimes reality creeps up on you and slaps you in the face. Reconfigure Fitton Field for Lacrosse and any other field sport. A highly selective Liberal Arts college with 1,500 men is nuts to pursue a Div I schedule including some FBS teams. The money could be so much better spent. Bite the bullet. Stop living in the past. The gnashing of teeth will be brutal, but we must stop being delusional. As I have said before many times we have been playing football for about 120 years. There have been ups and downs over long and short stretches. The school was playing well before we were around and will be playing long after we are gone. Got to take a long view and work as hard as we can to be competitive year in and year out. The football issue is to be viewed in a much bigger framework historically for HC. Longer term my money is on us getting much better at some time soon and continuing to plat at this level. When things get tougher you dont just pack it in after 120 years. You work harder at regaining success. |
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jul 27, 2017 18:55:17 GMT -5
Well said jflare.
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Post by sarasota on Jul 27, 2017 18:56:58 GMT -5
Sometimes reality creeps up on you and slaps you in the face. Reconfigure Fitton Field for Lacrosse and any other field sport. A highly selective Liberal Arts college with 1,500 men is nuts to pursue a Div I schedule including some FBS teams. The money could be so much better spent. Bite the bullet. Stop living in the past. The gnashing of teeth will be brutal, but we must stop being delusional. As I have said before many times we have been playing football for about 120 years. There have been ups and downs over long and short stretches. The school was playing well before we were around and will be playing long after we are gone. Got to take a long view and work as hard as we can to be competitive year in and year out. The football issue is to be viewed in a much bigger framework historically for HC. Longer term my money is on us getting much better at some time soon and continuing to plat at this level. When things get tougher you dont just pack it in after 120 years. You work harder at regaining success. Horse drawn buggies were around for a long time as well. Then the world changed. |
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Post by bison137 on Jul 27, 2017 20:04:22 GMT -5
A bit insulting to Pujals not to be first team ? I think it was expected. Anderson had a great year last year - 2724 yards, 27 TDs vs 4 INT's, QB Rating of 157.2. And he had a really good year in 2015 as well. With Pujals having played only four games last year, he wasn't going to get the votes over Anderson. |
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Post by hcpride on Jul 28, 2017 4:54:24 GMT -5
Sometimes reality creeps up on you and slaps you in the face. Reconfigure Fitton Field for Lacrosse and any other field sport. A highly selective Liberal Arts college with 1,500 men is nuts to pursue a Div I schedule including some FBS teams. The money could be so much better spent. Bite the bullet. Stop living in the past. The gnashing of teeth will be brutal, but we must stop being delusional. I presume you'd advise Colgate to do the same, yes ? Colgate has held on to its academic reputation over the last 35 years and is in a far better place financially. No pressing need to cut the massive costs of schollie football and reallocate resources. Nevertheless, if I were a Colgate alum I wouldn't dismiss the suggestion out of hand. |
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Post by dharry13 on Jul 28, 2017 7:23:24 GMT -5
Sarasota - enough with the nonsense. Scholarships might be a financial drain. I'm honesty not concerned with it. It's also a financial drain on the Ivies, the UNH's, Villanova's of the world. HC is doing just fine - could it be doing better financially - sure, but you could add that narrative to countless schools in this arena. HC's academic reputation is as strong as ever.
Regardless of what you say, HC's football is an integral part of its history and should always be, the same way hoops is. Enough with the constant negativity on the board. If you don't like the discussion matter simply go to some other academic blog and talk about where you think the money should go. People try to remain upbeat about the future of the program and they just had a fantastic recruiting class last year.
Oh and by the way - those games against the FBS schools you speak of are going to make a lot more money for the school than all other sports combined.
How about you take your own advice. Bite the bullet, gnash the teeth, look in the mirror and make a change - actually have a positive opinion on this board as the snarky, negative comments are monotonous and tiresome.
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Post by ncaam on Jul 28, 2017 7:33:59 GMT -5
I'm not here to defend sota nor bury him. Football is not a drain on the Ivies or state schools. It is a drain on hc. Hc should always keep that in mind. 10 more years of 3 to 5 wins? Does that make sense? Takes money that could be used for other spoŕts. Go cross go! Beat you-con.
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Post by dharry13 on Jul 28, 2017 7:46:57 GMT -5
Pump more money into sports you'll never get any amount of return on. Whatever money they make from the FBS games helps support all other sports. And yes it is a drain on State schools - maybe it doesn't carry the same financial weight as it does to HC, bur regardless, the decision was made to bring on scholarships - I'm quite sure HC kept that in mind when they supported the decision bring them back.
Let's embrace it and support it ourselves instead of suck the life out of the topic as well as suck the life out of the people on this board who want to see them get back on top. Even if they make the finals of the 1-AA playoffs they will still lose money. I get it. It honestly doesn't worry me. Is that naïve - possibly.
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Post by td128 on Jul 28, 2017 8:16:03 GMT -5
There is a reason why 160 Crusaders from Classes 1963 through 2017 gathered this past Monday at our golf event. It wasn't the golf . . . especially given the conditions.
These Crusaders came in from CA, FL, PA, OH, MI, IL, and up and down the Atlantic coast.
Let's Win!!
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Post by sarasota on Jul 28, 2017 8:35:10 GMT -5
Sarasota - enough with the nonsense. Scholarships might be a financial drain. I'm honesty not concerned with it. It's also a financial drain on the Ivies, the UNH's, Villanova's of the world. HC is doing just fine - could it be doing better financially - sure, but you could add that narrative to countless schools in this arena. HC's academic reputation is as strong as ever. Regardless of what you say, HC's football is an integral part of its history and should always be, the same way hoops is. Enough with the constant negativity on the board. If you don't like the discussion matter simply go to some other academic blog and talk about where you think the money should go. People try to remain upbeat about the future of the program and they just had a fantastic recruiting class last year. Oh and by the way - those games against the FBS schools you speak of are going to make a lot more money for the school than all other sports combined. How about you take your own advice. Bite the bullet, gnash the teeth, look in the mirror and make a change - actually have a positive opinion on this board as the snarky, negative comments are monotonous and tiresome. I have made and will continue to make tons of positive comments. Please know what you're talking about. Thanks. |
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Post by sarasota on Jul 28, 2017 8:41:22 GMT -5
td128- I'm a tremendous admirer of your efforts on behalf of the fball program and I cheer for them. Just out of curiosity, what percentage of those attendees received a diploma that is worth something in the marketplace at no cost to their families, a cost that in recent years has been on the order of a quarter million dollars? They ought to be castigated if they DON"T attend the reunion.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 28, 2017 8:55:31 GMT -5
Sarasota - enough with the nonsense. Scholarships might be a financial drain. I'm honesty not concerned with it. It's also a financial drain on the Ivies, the UNH's, Villanova's of the world. HC is doing just fine - could it be doing better financially - sure, but you could add that narrative to countless schools in this arena. HC's academic reputation is as strong as ever. Regardless of what you say, HC's football is an integral part of its history and should always be, the same way hoops is. Enough with the constant negativity on the board. If you don't like the discussion matter simply go to some other academic blog and talk about where you think the money should go. People try to remain upbeat about the future of the program and they just had a fantastic recruiting class last year. Oh and by the way - those games against the FBS schools you speak of are going to make a lot more money for the school than all other sports combined. How about you take your own advice. Bite the bullet, gnash the teeth, look in the mirror and make a change - actually have a positive opinion on this board as the snarky, negative comments are monotonous and tiresome. Mostly agree but I wouldn't use the Ivies as an example as they have maintained excellent national academic reputations, are incredibly rich, and fund all sorts of sports HC would never dream of. Also, UNH and other state schools have vastly different funding streams and academic reputations from HC. Villanova is an example of a school that plays competitive football and now exceeds Holy Cross in academic reputation (not to say the two achievements are linked), so I think that may be an aspirational comparator. Of course there are differences (size, etc.) between the two. Finally, I have to disagree with your statement that HC's reputation is "as strong as ever'. Still considered a very good school by prospective students, families, and guidance counsellors but not 'as strong as ever'. Probably like those University of Chicago alums back in the day, and Northeastern and BU alums more recently, I too cannot imagine HC without DIV I football. |
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 28, 2017 8:55:58 GMT -5
Wanna walk this one back just a little bit? I'm going to bet that a whole bunch of them have quite legitimate reasons for not attending the reunion. Commitments to family and especially kids. Distance. Business commitments. Just some that come immediately to mind. Why is everything so black and white for you?
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