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Post by sader1970 on Sept 25, 2017 20:36:49 GMT -5
Basically, dear fans, please actually get into Fitton and cheer the team on if you are going to be on campus. Click on for larger image.
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Post by hc87 on Sept 25, 2017 21:49:42 GMT -5
Smacks of desperation if you ask me.
Hate saying that....but that's how it comes across.
Fitton attendance is an issue...it's too big, we won't put in lights, the people who saw Syracuse, Penn St and BC play there are either not with us sadly anymore or don't want to to see Lafayette, Bucknell and Monmouth there. No chair backs, concessions stink, Nazi security guards....shall I go on???
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Post by hchoops on Sept 25, 2017 22:08:19 GMT -5
Smacks of desperation if you ask me. Hate saying that....but that's how it comes across. Fitton attendance is an issue...it's too big, we won't put in lights, the people who saw Syracuse, Penn St and BC play there are either not with us sadly anymore or don't want to to see Lafayette, Bucknell and Monmouth there. No chair backs, concessions stink, Nazi security guards....shall I go on??? You will anyway, won't you ?
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Post by HC1843 on Sept 25, 2017 22:36:25 GMT -5
Smacks of desperation if you ask me. Hate saying that....but that's how it comes across. Fitton attendance is an issue...it's too big, we won't put in lights, the people who saw Syracuse, Penn St and BC play there are either not with us sadly anymore or don't want to to see Lafayette, Bucknell and Monmouth there. No chair backs, concessions stink, Nazi security guards....shall I go on??? Every time I think I just cannot go on, I simply look at my kids and realize there is so much more to life than picking apart Nate's letters about supporting alma mater on homecoming weekend. It is all going to be ok, Indian. Cheers.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Sept 25, 2017 23:00:59 GMT -5
Or could be as bad as BC, playing always-tough Central Michigan this Sat and having so little interest that I received this funny email today from the business office at work:
ATTENTION TENANTS OF BRIGHTON LANDING.....
Are you interested in winning tickets to the Boston College v Central Michigan football game (THIS Saturday, 9/30 @ 1pm)?!?
Simply come down to the Transwestern Property Management office & try to guess how many candies are in the jar. If your guess is closest....you WIN!
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 25, 2017 23:20:28 GMT -5
I hacked into the security cameras in that office and took a look at the candy jar. There are three jelly beans in it: I think the office manager wants someone to guess the correct number quickly and take the tickets off her hands
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Post by hc87 on Sept 25, 2017 23:36:42 GMT -5
Seriously though.... "Please, please come to the game...especially at kick-off (if the nazi security guards haven't already kicked you out of your tailgate)....I can smell the desperation in New Bedford (and that's saying something )....
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Post by td128 on Sept 26, 2017 5:11:15 GMT -5
Nate's letter is an example of a well founded and well accepted business concept that is practiced by great business people everyday. It's called "Hug your customers" in order to promote your brand and grow your following.
A classy letter written by an AD who has made an enormously positive impact on the college.
Well done Nate.
#basicbusiness #simple
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 26, 2017 5:52:57 GMT -5
I suppose I should have guessed that 87 would go off on Nate's letter. While he's the AD and perhaps he wrote this as part of his job, it pretty well captures my feeling that I have had for years.
The football game is the core of Homecoming and it bothers me that we have many alums, mostly young ones, who park on Freshmen Field and drink throughout the entire game, never once getting into the stadium to watch any of the game. When that happens, I am all for "the Nazi's" kicking people off Freshmen Field. If all you want to do during Homecoming is drink, go to Breen's with your friends and classmates, if it is still there, or wherever the hangout is now. Don't waste valuable parking space for those who do want to go to the game.
The kids on the football team bust their butts to do their best and represent the College exceptionally well and we should be supporting them.
And all this about how Fitton sucks. Stop, please! You go there for 2.5-3 hours. Bring folding chair backs like I do. Men's rooms? Have you been to the Yale Bowl or many other venues? Turf? We don't need to stinkin' artificial turf, the playing field is great. LIghts? Sure if someone wants to spring for them, otherwise, the occasional light rental for a night game is fine.
Look, you either support the football team or don't. If you do, you overlook the minor flaws. If you don't, any excuse will suffice.
[End of rant]
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Post by bigfan on Sept 26, 2017 6:36:49 GMT -5
I saw Syr, BC and Penn St at Fitton. I know that those days will never return, we need to schedule teams like Villanova, William & Mary, Richmond, Umass etc. instead of Lafayette, Bucknell & Lehigh. The fans just can't get excited about the Patriot League. We also need to upgrade the basketball schedule.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 26, 2017 7:36:06 GMT -5
As always, Nate's letter tells us everything we need to know.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Sept 26, 2017 7:36:44 GMT -5
Three ways to get the crowds from Freshman Field into the game:
1) Win 2) Start the games later 3) Sell beer
Creating a fun atmosphere outside AND inside Fitton Field will get people excited for going to games, whether it's homecoming or not.
A letter (no impact) and special forces security + Worcester police (negative impact) will not increase attendance at the games.
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Post by crusader12 on Sept 26, 2017 7:50:42 GMT -5
something tells me RSIG is gearing up for an invasion of Poland this weekend.....
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Post by hcgrad94 on Sept 26, 2017 8:38:44 GMT -5
I saw Syr, BC and Penn St at Fitton. I know that those days will never return, we need to schedule teams like Villanova, William & Mary, Richmond, Umass etc. instead of Lafayette, Bucknell & Lehigh. The fans just can't get excited about the Patriot League. We also need to upgrade the basketball schedule. I hate to tell you but bringing William and Mary to town wouldn't uptick the interest level much at all. Towson came in three or four years ago as a top-five team featuring a future NFL running back and there weren't more than four or five thousand people there. Look at attendance numbers from the various FCS leagues in the Northeast and you will notice that our attendance is actually better than most. The reality is if we continue to improve and win big games like we did against New Hampshire fans will come to the games.
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Post by nhteamer on Sept 26, 2017 8:51:07 GMT -5
WIN
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Post by gks on Sept 26, 2017 8:55:52 GMT -5
I agree beer sales would help. People want to go to the game socialize and have a couple of adult beverages. They don't want to be marched to the stadium like a second grade lunch line.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 26, 2017 8:56:26 GMT -5
I saw Syr, BC and Penn St at Fitton. I know that those days will never return, we need to schedule teams like Villanova, William & Mary, Richmond, Umass etc. instead of Lafayette, Bucknell & Lehigh. The fans just can't get excited about the Patriot League. We also need to upgrade the basketball schedule. I hate to tell you but bringing William and Mary to town wouldn't uptick the interest level much at all. Towson came in three or four years ago as a top-five team featuring a future NFL running back and there weren't more than four or five thousand people there. Look at attendance numbers from the various FCS leagues in the Northeast and you will notice that our attendance is actually better than most. The reality is if we continue to improve and win big games like we did against New Hampshire fans will come to the games. I have to agree about W&M. If fans only want to see unusual opponents and do not want to see HC, they will not come. One can drink with friends anywhere so if alcohol is the reason they come forget them. A bunch of drunks in the stands do not typically help the game atmosphere. Wining football can save a lot of those problems, but it may take time.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 26, 2017 9:08:05 GMT -5
...as to the letter from ADNP, his points seem accurate. A loud home crowd is a plus. The letter is not really connected to game security on freshman field. We have seen too many cases of harsh treatment of fans to think that will change much. However, to think that fans would avoid watching the game they presumably paid for in order to socialize and enjoy "a couple" of adult beverages seems a bit unrealistic. Why would they be there for several hours? My experience is that my classmates - when beer was available - would seldom stop with 2 brews, especially with such a long time to consume them. BTW, folks are allowed to socialize in the stands and some actually do. If this letter trying to get folks to support HC's football team (as basketball coaches have tried to do for their teams in the past - climbing up on a chair or table in Kimball to ask students for game support) is the worst thing he ever does, it would mean IMHO he is doing pretty well!
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Post by purplehaze on Sept 26, 2017 9:23:06 GMT -5
Having attended the UNH game, I can understand the frustration underlying this letter. That game should have drawn much better than it did. This level of college football is the 2nd highest there is and your school is making a huge commitment. Does anyone recognize that ? If there is not a home field advantage at Fitton, you're asking our players and coaches to work in a 'neutral field' atmosphere. That just stinks.
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Post by CHC8485 on Sept 26, 2017 9:37:46 GMT -5
I agree beer sales would help. People want to go to the game socialize and have a couple of adult beverages. They don't want to be marched to the stadium like a second grade lunch line. Only thing you can't do in the stadium is have a couple of adult beverages. Is 1 - 3 hours before the game not enough time to consume a couple of adult beverages and socialize? And the socializing doesn't end on your way over and once inside the stadium. And let me add that I have never had security on Freshman field give me a hard time. Why? Because I understand I need to be headed into the game by about 12:45 - 12:50 for a 1:00 PM kickoff. I start to pack up the tailgate around 12:30. When security walks by, they see what I'm doing and they just keep walking. When they walk by again 10-15 minutes later and there is nothing outside the car, they just keep walking. And 5 minutes later I'm gone. No harrassment and not a word exchanged. If you're honestly there to go to the game as you say, what do you lose by starting to pack up your party at 12:30ish and heading over to the stadium by 12:50?
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Post by gks on Sept 26, 2017 10:01:04 GMT -5
Well....what they're doing now isn't really working. Crowds were higher when Dan Allen was the coach. Why not try something new and different. Bravehearts sell plenty of beer at their games...great family atmosphere and no problems. My opinion on the biggest problem why crowds leave....games are too long. UNH game was around 3 hours and 40 minutes. I love football but not that much.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 26, 2017 10:09:52 GMT -5
Gotta agree about game length. My favorite quote on that came from one of the announcers who said..."HC is playing a quick game and rushing the next play. That is why this game is taking so long." Yea, a hurry-up offense is notoriously time consuming.
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Post by rickii on Sept 26, 2017 10:14:46 GMT -5
Smacks of desperation if you ask me. Hate saying that....but that's how it comes across. Fitton attendance is an issue...it's too big, we won't put in lights, the people who saw Syracuse, Penn St and BC play there are either not with us sadly anymore or don't want to to see Lafayette, Bucknell and Monmouth there. No chair backs, concessions stink, Nazi security guards....shall I go on??? My take....tis all part of the on-going plan to change the culture at HC to that which once existed and was allowed to gradually erode by past administrations. Will take time - several years - but at least it's underway.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Sept 26, 2017 10:30:10 GMT -5
Well....what they're doing now isn't really working. Crowds were higher when Dan Allen was the coach. Why not try something new and different. Bravehearts sell plenty of beer at their games...great family atmosphere and no problems. My opinion on the biggest problem why crowds leave....games are too long. UNH game was around 3 hours and 40 minutes. I love football but not that much. The world has changed significantly since Dan Allen was coach. Ivy games were drawing 15-18000 in those days now draw 5000. We will likely have 10-11000 Saturday, which I would guess will be one of the largest FCS crowds of the weekend in the Northeast. Not bad for a school of 2800.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 26, 2017 11:03:32 GMT -5
94, I hope your prediction holds true.
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