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Fordham
Nov 6, 2017 14:28:14 GMT -5
Post by timholycross on Nov 6, 2017 14:28:14 GMT -5
Monday morning QB...Here's the way I saw it. Dartmouth was big, and pretty handily blocked the field goal attempt, prior to us scoring on the last second play. We then needed a point (or two) to win. So wasn't a big surprise to me that they pretty easily blocked that PAT. For me the fun of football is thinking outside the box. Maybe Gilmore does and he wins the game, he didn't, and we didn't. On him. And Laffy, what more to say, one of the strangest decisions in a coaching career. On him If you are saying that somehow the percentages were against kicking an extra point vis-a-vis running/passing one in, at the FCS (or higher) level, you are bonkers. I don't give a darn if Porzingis is on the other side of the line of scrimmage.
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Post by hc87 on Nov 6, 2017 16:46:57 GMT -5
The timing is not optimal, but upgrading the schedule in general is still a very big net positive imo.
I'd rather we go 3-8 in 2019 playing Syracuse, Navy, Yale, Harvard and UNH, then go 8-3 playing say Marist, Davidson, Bryant, Sacred Heart and URI...call me crazy, masochistic etc...but that's how I feel.
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Post by wayback on Nov 6, 2017 17:21:24 GMT -5
As disappointing as our season has been in general, Fordham's has been worse in many ways. Tough way for Chase Edmonds to end his collegiate career. About the only school in the PL that hasn't had a somewhat disappointing season is probably Colgate and they may be the ones ultimately most disappointed ironically. Many feel they were jobbed by the refs in their loss to Lehigh which may cost them the PL title this year.
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Fordham
Nov 7, 2017 19:58:09 GMT -5
Post by jkh67 on Nov 7, 2017 19:58:09 GMT -5
The timing is not optimal, but upgrading the schedule in general is still a very big net positive imo. I'd rather we go 3-8 in 2019 playing Syracuse, Navy, Yale, Harvard and UNH, then go 8-3 playing say Marist, Davidson, Bryant, Sacred Heart and URI...call me crazy, masochistic etc...but that's how I feel. I'm with you, brother. If we ever get reduced to paying Marist, etc., it will most certainly be time to hang up the athletic supporters and do something else with Fitton Field.
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Fordham
Nov 7, 2017 20:06:47 GMT -5
Post by jkh67 on Nov 7, 2017 20:06:47 GMT -5
As disappointing as our season has been in general, Fordham's has been worse in many ways. Tough way for Chase Edmonds to end his collegiate career. About the only school in the PL that hasn't had a somewhat disappointing season is probably Colgate and they may be the ones ultimately most disappointed ironically. Many feel they were jobbed by the refs in their loss to Lehigh which may cost them the PL title this year. I don't give a rat's ass about Chase Edmonds specifically or Fordham generally. Colgate...the oldest HC football opponent (excepting perhaps Dartmouth)... is the school we've got to catch long term. First question, why has Colgate...a school with a superior academic reputation to HC's...managed to admit athletes that don't pass muster at HC? That's a problem that absolutely mist be fixed if we are to be successful on the gridiron. Second question: what do we need to do to close the academic gap with the once-upon-a-time Red Raiders of the Chenango,
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Fordham
Nov 7, 2017 20:08:11 GMT -5
Post by jkh67 on Nov 7, 2017 20:08:11 GMT -5
If you are saying that somehow the percentages were against kicking an extra point vis-a-vis running/passing one in, at the FCS (or higher) level, you are bonkers. I don't give a darn if Porzingis is on the other side of the line of scrimmage. Original quote misattributed to JKH67!
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Fordham
Nov 7, 2017 21:16:25 GMT -5
Post by 6sader7 on Nov 7, 2017 21:16:25 GMT -5
"First question, why has Colgate...a school with a superior academic reputation to HC's...managed to admit athletes that don't pass muster at HC? That's a problem that absolutely mist be fixed if we are to be successful on the gridiron. Second question: what do we need to do to close the academic gap with the once-upon-a-time Red Raiders of the Chenango"
Couldn't agree more with this -- Someone please tell the administration that not admitting student-athletes does not bolster your academic cache - As evidenced by their very own method over the last 15 years.
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Fordham
Nov 7, 2017 21:23:09 GMT -5
Post by lou on Nov 7, 2017 21:23:09 GMT -5
Original quote misattributed to JKH67! My fault, deleted a few too many lines when I quoted
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Post by timholycross on Nov 8, 2017 9:10:52 GMT -5
Original quote misattributed to JKH67! My fault, deleted a few too many lines when I quoted Doesn't matter who it was that posted it...just wondering if the person was serious when he/she said, in so many words, that Gilmore should have gone for 2 with the score 20-20 because the last kick had been blocked. Gilmore's Lafayette decision would have paled in comparison to that.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 8, 2017 9:20:39 GMT -5
My fault, deleted a few too many lines when I quoted Doesn't matter who it was that posted it...just wondering if the person was serious when he/she said, in so many words, that Gilmore should have gone for 2 with the score 20-20 because the last kick had been blocked. Gilmore's Lafayette decision would have paled in comparison to that. Someone actually suggested we should have gone for two, rather than kick the PAT?
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Post by hcpride on Nov 8, 2017 9:33:50 GMT -5
The timing is not optimal, but upgrading the schedule in general is still a very big net positive imo. I'd rather we go 3-8 in 2019 playing Syracuse, Navy, Yale, Harvard and UNH, then go 8-3 playing say Marist, Davidson, Bryant, Sacred Heart and URI...call me crazy, masochistic etc...but that's how I feel. Brutal year for the Patriot League and it has not gone unnoticed: www.fcs.football/cfb/story.asp?i=20171004140608127526604&ref=hea&tm&src=FCS
Next year could be yet another consecutive bad year for HC (departing seniors...somewhat tougher schedule). Will it result in better football several years down the road from now?
Not sure if losing big to a BC or a Syracuse (while remaining in the very lightly-regarded Patriot League) each year will impress a critical mass of talented recruits away from Ivies or CAA. Given the relative academic reputations, will it even draw talented recruits from Colgate? Lehigh?
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Post by lou on Nov 8, 2017 9:40:53 GMT -5
Doesn't matter who it was that posted it...just wondering if the person was serious when he/she said, in so many words, that Gilmore should have gone for 2 with the score 20-20 because the last kick had been blocked. Gilmore's Lafayette decision would have paled in comparison to that. Someone actually suggested we should have gone for two, rather than kick the PAT? You know in Groundhog Day we keep kicking the PAT, and it gets blocked every time
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 8, 2017 9:50:18 GMT -5
Someone actually suggested we should have gone for two, rather than kick the PAT? You know in Groundhog Day we keep kicking the PAT, and it gets blocked every time If Gilmore went for two instead of kicking the PAT, it would have been one of the worst coaching decisions in the history of college football, and that's not an exaggeration. It's not like our kicker was injured and we were using a non-kicker to attempt the kick. We also converted our first two PATs, so it's not like Dartmouth was blocking our kicks all night. The odds of converting a 2PT conversion are lower than 50%. Just a terrible idea.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 8, 2017 17:38:11 GMT -5
Colgate was better this year, not 45-7 better by any stretch, but better. Of the 6 losses: we should have won both the Dartmouth and Lafayette games. The Monmouth and UConn games could probably have gone either way and Colgate and Yale were just superior regardless of team turmoil/chemistry. If ifs and buts were chocolate and nuts I know, but this team should probably be around 7-3;4-1 right now imo. Our losses: Looking back at our OOC, those were pretty good teams as it has turned out. All are now ranked well above us (70th) nationally. 1-4 is about right (strange as it sounds).: UConn was simply better (and showed it the second half by finally using their current QB and shutting us out 20-0) although an awful FBS team.. Nice win v UNH (6-3, 29th Massey) Dartmouth was a pretty close game all the way around. They've had a good (6-2 - beat Yale FWIW, ranked 44th Massey) season. Monmouth is the better team. (They are now 8-1,ran the table on PL competition, and are ranked 34th by Massey ) Yale was simply better. (7-1, 25th on Massey) PL [IMHO Lafayette loss was the killer. They were and are a lesser team. (93rd Massey) ] Even with this year's underachieving drama we should, IMHO be 5-5. Bad loss. Colgate is simply better (38th Massey) Looking back and saying "what if" is kind of pointless now that we are looking at imminent program change but chew on this for a second: If Simsheuser doesnt drop the ball on a wide open TD to take a 14-0 lead against Lafayette, we would currently be in first place in the PL by half a game and would be playing for rings on Saturday against Lehigh - granted, we would still be praying for Colgate to lose one of their last two for the auto-bid.
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