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Post by inhocsigno on Dec 15, 2017 19:28:59 GMT -5
For #@*&$~!s and giggles:
Looks like Bob Stitt is a candidate. He was only making 175K at Montana, so Fordham can afford him.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Dec 15, 2017 19:37:39 GMT -5
Yes and NYC and Missoula cost of living are very similar.
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Post by deep Purple on Dec 15, 2017 21:36:25 GMT -5
I wonder if Stitt had any interest in HC
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 16, 2017 6:46:42 GMT -5
Fordham's coaches get more because of the high cost of living in Metro NY. In 2016, for coaches of men's teams:.
Average Annual Institutional Salary per Head Coach: Fordham $153K / HC $101K
Average Annual Institutional Salary per FTE Fordham $259K (6 FTEs) / HC $120K (9,25 FTEs)
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Post by hcgrad94 on Dec 16, 2017 8:38:53 GMT -5
Fordham's coaches get more because of the high cost of living in Metro NY. In 2016, for coaches of men's teams:. Average Annual Institutional Salary per Head Coach: Fordham $153K / HC $101K Average Annual Institutional Salary per FTE Fordham $259K (6 FTEs) / HC $120K (9,25 FTEs) As you are likely aware, that number is badly stilted by what they pay their MBB coach.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 16, 2017 11:01:24 GMT -5
Fordham's coaches get more because of the high cost of living in Metro NY. In 2016, for coaches of men's teams:. Average Annual Institutional Salary per Head Coach: Fordham $153K / HC $101K Average Annual Institutional Salary per FTE Fordham $259K (6 FTEs) / HC $120K (9,25 FTEs) As you are likely aware, that number is badly stilted by what they pay their MBB coach. And the HC number is not also significantly stilted by what we pay our basketball coach?
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Post by hcgrad94 on Dec 16, 2017 11:35:36 GMT -5
Sure is. But Fordham is 50% higher with 3 fewer teams so it skews it even more.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 16, 2017 11:43:15 GMT -5
As you are likely aware, that number is badly stilted by what they pay their MBB coach. And the HC number is not also significantly stilted by what we pay our basketball coach? correct
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 16, 2017 18:45:57 GMT -5
Assuming recruiting and scollie costs being roughly equal between Fordham and HC, and after adjusting for operating expenses, Fordham football coaches, in the aggregate, would appear to have made $300-400K more than HC coaches did in 2016.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Dec 16, 2017 19:43:52 GMT -5
Assuming recruiting and scollie costs being roughly equal between Fordham and HC, and after adjusting for operating expenses, Fordham football coaches, in the aggregate, would appear to have made $300-400K more than HC coaches did in 2016. No hockey makes a big difference.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 18, 2017 6:51:34 GMT -5
Assuming recruiting and scollie costs being roughly equal between Fordham and HC, and after adjusting for operating expenses, Fordham football coaches, in the aggregate, would appear to have made $300-400K more than HC coaches did in 2016. No hockey makes a big difference. Yes it does. In the NCAA annual report on finances, hockey coaches at FCS schools make at least as much as FCS football coaches. I can't pull down the NCAA annual report with the exact values because the site is down for maintenance at this hour, but the compensation level surprised me when I first read it. The N value is small, so the six Ivy hockey schools tend to tip the scale.
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 22, 2017 11:40:25 GMT -5
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Post by Ray on Dec 22, 2017 11:46:37 GMT -5
Shades of the HC/Reno speculation there. Conlin's bio says he lives in Southington, CT... he can probably commute from there to Fordham; no need to uproot his young family.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 22, 2017 11:49:49 GMT -5
Shades of the HC/Reno speculation there. HC/Reno ??
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Post by Ray on Dec 22, 2017 13:40:39 GMT -5
Yeah, shades of HC opening a campus in Reno, NV.
No, late in the football search, Yale head coach Reno briefly surfaced as a possible candidate. He's an Oxford native, still lives there. I was just drawing a parallel between the logic of that, and this move for Cronin/Fordham.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 22, 2017 16:42:39 GMT -5
That would be one hell of a commute...87 miles one way minimum
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Post by HC92 on Dec 22, 2017 22:46:24 GMT -5
Shades of the HC/Reno speculation there. Conlin's bio says he lives in Southington, CT... he can probably commute from there to Fordham; no need to uproot his young family. That would be one brutal commute.
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Post by Ray on Dec 22, 2017 23:35:20 GMT -5
Reno commutes from Oxford to New Haven now, right?
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Post by hcpride on Dec 23, 2017 8:14:33 GMT -5
Joe Conlin seems like a very straightforward hire (very successful UNH assistant to Harvard assistant to Yale OC to head coach Patriot League). His plan: "We're eager to get started, get to know the men on the team, and hit the recruiting trail.". fordhamsports.com/news/2017/12/22/joe-conlin-named-head-football-coach-at-fordham-university.aspxFordham's recruiting class seems to be a strong one. With two new and top-notch head coaches, the Fordham-HC football rivalry should continue and strengthen. I'd love to see Jesuit domination of the PL (and a march into the playoffs).
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Post by spenser on Dec 23, 2017 8:52:37 GMT -5
Reno commutes from Oxford to New Haven now, right?
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Post by southernsader on Dec 23, 2017 15:13:27 GMT -5
According to footballscoop.com, Conlin was also a "finalist" for the Holy Cross job.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 23, 2017 16:10:15 GMT -5
According to footballscoop.com, Conlin was also a "finalist" for the Holy Cross job. Tough to be a finalist if you don’t interview.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 23, 2017 16:28:40 GMT -5
According to footballscoop.com, Conlin was also a "finalist" for the Holy Cross job. Tough to be a finalist if you don’t interview. Not really--Bob Chesney got the job and we were assured that ADNP refused to interview him.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 23, 2017 18:42:10 GMT -5
Funny thing is maybe both answers are right. Perhaps when it was posted that there was no interview of Bob Chesney that was a fact at the time. Nate clearly stated that Bob was the last person interviewed and made an outstanding impression on everyone. In person at the press conference, it looked to me like Nate squirmed a little when asked about when Coach Chesney "became the front runner" or words to that effect. He definitely ducked the question of how many candidates there were to pick from. Nate also seemed to go out of his way to make clear that there was one offer made and accepted to suggest that there was no negotiation or give and take. It was a curious phrase that when hiring a coach Nate, said one needs to remain "flexible." That could suggest different things to different people.
For me, it matters little. I have every confidence we got the right guy for the job whether it took a rather circuitous route to get to the desired end result.
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