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Post by clmetsfan on Jan 30, 2018 17:46:16 GMT -5
Apparently Tom understood my point. My post was no more serious than the pretend baseball caps. The absurdity of those caps deserved a similarly absurd response.
When and if an ethnic group is offended, I support them but it is not up to me to be offended on behalf of another group. Specific example was referenced about the Sioux and North Dakota and the NCAA deciding that their mascot was offensive while the Sioux actually take pride in that representation. The absurdity of those caps is a perfect correlation to the absurdity of the fact that a professional sports team has been represented by a racist caricature for such a long time. One can be offended by racism whether or not they're a member of the group being marginalized. For example, the white supremacist rallies in Charlottesville were offensive to me not on behalf of black people, but on behalf of all people.
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Post by Wormtown Railers Fan on Jan 30, 2018 19:21:43 GMT -5
I Sader70's point was that even though he doesn't have a problem with Notre Dame's racist caricature even though he belongs to that race Considering Notre Dame is historically a school run and attended by Irish-Americans, it's really not a good comparison. If Chief Wahoo had been designed by an American Indian and the franchise run by American Indians, then we can talk about comparing the two. That logo and the Washington football team is cultural appropriation at its most fundamental level. Notre Dame is a French school. And a poll of native Americans shows that 90% could care less about the Redskins nickname.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 30, 2018 19:29:49 GMT -5
Perhaps the 7th Cavalry took offense at the Fighting Sioux, and Sioux, sans Fighting, might have been allowed like the Seminoles, Utes, etc.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 30, 2018 19:35:29 GMT -5
So the Irish can be called "fightin" while the Sioux cannot? What a disgusting slur that is on my people.....the Irish are always fair game for the prejudices and slanders of others.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jan 30, 2018 19:51:02 GMT -5
So the Irish can be called "fightin" while the Sioux cannot? What a disgusting slur that is on my people.....the Irish are always fair game for the prejudices and slanders of others. When nicknames were being created, the percentage of Irish at Notre Dame was a lot higher than the percentage of Indians at Univ of North Dakota. I personally think a certain SEC school should be compelled to change its nickname. There must be some Title IX violation that somebody can unearth.. A nickname that can't even be discussed on the board. A nickname that's suitable only for the men's and transgender teams. i.pinimg.com/originals/1b/fd/93/1bfd9304cfd9913180beade0a11eb835.jpg
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 31, 2018 16:15:03 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Feb 1, 2018 15:44:05 GMT -5
A pathetic attempt to make ESPN sound like something other than the hypocritical left-wing media outlet that it is.
The Fighting Irish mascot is not offensive because it was presumably created by Irish Catholics in charge of or in attendance at the school. Similarly, the College of William & Mary long went by the name "Indians" before they started to become more commonly called the "Tribe" in the '70s. The nickname and mascot originated from the fact that the school was founded to educate Native Americans. Local tribes were in support but of course that didn't stop the NCAA from forcing the school to remove the feathers off the W&M logo about a decade ago.
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