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Post by CHC8485 on Jul 20, 2018 16:30:10 GMT -5
My brother, '83 - a casual Yankee fan back then, mostly just because my younger brothers & I were huge Mets fans - was a senior in high school applying to college that Fall. On the afternoon of October 2, 1978 he had his Holy Cross admissions interview!
I'll have to ask him again, but IIRC he said the campus was not very active that afternoon, almost deserted, but you'd periodically hear cheers and groans (usually both) coming from the open windows of dorms as they passed. And of course, the bleeping cheers in the top of the 7th!
Not sure if they found a place to watch the end of the game or got in the car and listened to the end of the game on the way home. I know he remembers more about that aspect of his visit than the interview itself.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jul 20, 2018 17:53:28 GMT -5
In Hobson's defense (as a fielder), in 1978 I believe he had an issue with floating bone chips in his elbow, which caused him to airmail a lot of throws to first base. What a season....never felt comfortable with Don Zimmer at the helm. I missed the one game playoff, but I was at the last regular season game (when the Sox needed to win, and NY had to lose). I can't even remember who the Sox beat, but I'll never forget looking at the video board near the end of the game: "Thank You Rick Waits!" (the Cleveland pitcher who beat the Yanks in their finale). 24 hours later.......Bucky Bleeping Dent Perhaps Don Zimmer's biggest mistake (not his only one for sure). A lot of the blame for being overtaken could be laid at the feet of the front office. They went out and got a great starting lineup but would not spend a dime on the bench. They followed that up by spending the next 2-3 years breaking the team up for no good reason other than $. Zimmer and the pitching staff didn't exactly respect each other, either, if you believe Bill Lee's book The Wrong Stuff. The pitchers formed a club called The Loyal Order of Buffalo Heads, as their nickname for Zimmer was Buffalo Head. Zimmer in turn called Lee "College Boy".
Lee loved to get under Zimmer's skin. Supposedly the Sox had a dress code for road trips that included sport coats. On one trip Lee showed up at the airport in a jogging suit. Zimmer stopped him and got on his case. Lee responded with "what's the problem - this is a jacket, and jogging's a sport". A very funny book.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 20, 2018 17:55:49 GMT -5
My brother, '83 - a casual Yankee fan back then, mostly just because my younger brothers & I were huge Mets fans - was a senior in high school applying to college that Fall. On the afternoon of October 2, 1978 he had his Holy Cross admissions interview! I'll have to ask him again, but IIRC he said the campus was not very active that afternoon, almost deserted, but you'd periodically hear cheers and groans (usually both) coming from the open windows of dorms as they passed. And of course, the bleeping cheers in the top of the 7th! Not sure if they found a place to watch the end of the game or got in the car and listened to the end of the game on the way home. I know he remembers more about that aspect of his visit than the interview itself.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 20, 2018 17:57:40 GMT -5
A friend of mine, also a Wheeler Dorm class of 75 guy, got into the game by donning a white apron and claiming he had food from a nearby restaurant for the press box
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Post by Tom on Jul 20, 2018 21:00:35 GMT -5
In Hobson's defense (as a fielder), in 1978 I believe he had an issue with floating bone chips in his elbow, which caused him to airmail a lot of throws to first base. What a season....never felt comfortable with Don Zimmer at the helm. I missed the one game playoff, but I was at the last regular season game (when the Sox needed to win, and NY had to lose). I can't even remember who the Sox beat, but I'll never forget looking at the video board near the end of the game: "Thank You Rick Waits!" (the Cleveland pitcher who beat the Yanks in their finale). 24 hours later.......Bucky Bleeping Dent Perhaps Don Zimmer's biggest mistake (not his only one for sure). . How about ignoring the begging of the players to start Lee as it would give them the best chance to beat the Yankees.? All because Lee publicly embarrassed him
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Post by alum on Jul 23, 2018 21:02:39 GMT -5
Just watched the Ted Williams documentary on PBS. As I have read multiple books about Ted, including The Science of Hitting, I can’t say I learned anything new. Nevertheless, there are some good interviews and some never before seen color film from his final game. It is worth watching.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 25, 2018 7:24:32 GMT -5
Go Pirates. They need to make a playoff push for the NL Wildcard. You must be Notradamus as Bobby Baccala would say. 11 wins in a row.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 25, 2018 7:36:56 GMT -5
Perhaps Don Zimmer's biggest mistake (not his only one for sure). . How about ignoring the begging of the players to start Lee as it would give them the best chance to beat the Yankees.? All because Lee publicly embarrassed him I looked Lee's game logs up...Zimmer buried him. He did not pitch in a meaningful game after Sept 1 and no games after Sept 10. From Zimmer's perspective, the guy did not get a win after July 15, 7 straight starts/losses (and in those days starting losses meant more than they do now). Funny how the game has changed. Nowadays after the Yanks started the 7th inning with two straight hits in a 2-0 game, out the Zim would have come and the game handed to the bullpen. Also, Gossage got an 8 out save (and still had zip on his fastball at the end)...unheard of now.
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Post by timholycross on Aug 1, 2018 16:14:06 GMT -5
How can the Orioles be so bad....and the Yanks are 6-6 against them? The difference in the divisional race at this point, Boston is 10-2 and should be 11-2 (got a big lead wiped out by rain last week).
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Post by alum on Aug 6, 2018 6:54:30 GMT -5
While watching the ASG, it seemed appropriate to revisit the AL East standings. Sox 68-30 Yankees 62-33. 4.5 back That’s all you need to know I checked with the commissioner and MLB has decided to still play the rest of the season despite the big lead for the Bosox Boston Red Sox 79-34New York Yankees 68-42 9.5 backKY--Can you check with the commissioner again?
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Post by Tom on Aug 6, 2018 7:33:40 GMT -5
I don't hold the same animosity for Boone that I do for some others and I recognize that the Yankees are having a very good season, but this weekend made me think back happily to another 4 game sweep of the Yankees that resulted in the firing of Yankee manager Bucky F#$%ing Dent
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Post by WCHC Sports on Aug 6, 2018 9:27:32 GMT -5
Let's look at the recent Yankees lineup rolled out over the weekend.
1B = AAA player never played a full healthy season / trade throw-in who couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat 2B = rookie SS = good player 3B = rookie C = backup player RF = backup player LF = solid player who always fades terribly in the second half CF = great defender, but the streakiest player on offense for the Yankees since Hideki Matsui DH = defending NL MVP
Obviously a LOT of holes in this lineup. Gleyber has come back to earth, and is showing his rookie stripes in the field. Holder was anointed a bullpen stud by Boone despite having 2-3 good appearances in medium-leverage situations... and has played like royal ass lately. The team is playing sloppy, uninspired ball. Injuries and presumptuous trades have tested depth at positions that don't have the leeway to fill gaps against one of the strongest Red Sox teams I have ever seen.
Red Sox deserve the kudos, but this is not the same Yankees team we saw in April. Lots of ball left to play, but the Sox and Yanks are not on the same tier right now.
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Post by hchoops on Aug 6, 2018 9:33:07 GMT -5
Judge’s and Sanchez’s returns should make a difference, though I hope otherwise. Their biggest hole going forward may be the vulnerability of Chapman
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Aug 6, 2018 10:49:47 GMT -5
Some would rather have Romine than Gary Hustle.
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Post by Tom on Aug 6, 2018 11:03:28 GMT -5
Some would rather have Romine than Gary Hustle. Sanchez may be the first player since Bob Gibson who forced a rule change. He must be going nuts with the new rule of 6 mound visits per game, He went to the mound six times an inning. Used to drive me cuckoo
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Post by WCHC Sports on Aug 6, 2018 11:30:59 GMT -5
Some would rather have Romine than Gary Hustle. Romine marginally better at balls in the dirt, but has had a few crucial passed balls lately that hurt the team. His arm is not even close to Sanchez's, and the offense is not worth the burden of discussion. This has been a classic case of the grass being greener. Romine is a very strong backup, but we're seeing him hit .100 in full-time duty. Sanchez's faults as a defender were easy to overlook when he was setting HR records as a rookie. When you hit .190, it's the only relevant discussion of the player. Posada was never the world's best defender, but (especially for the position) put up borderline HOF stats at the plate and called a decent game, so it wasn't damning to his reputation. I think the biggest issue with the team, and one for many offenses these days, is the swing-for-the-fence mentality among the players. Individually, it's boosting HR statistics, but average is down and strikeouts are up year after year. You can tell guys like Andujar and Torreyes are line drive hitters who will consistently put the ball in play. For as hot as they can be at any given point in time, you're more likely to see a Gardner walk, followed by three straight Ks from Stanton, Didi, and Judge, than you are to see "hit, hit, hit, hit." I like that best about the Sox lineup. They have power sprinkled in, but guys will put hits in the gaps, run the bases well, and steal bases too.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Aug 6, 2018 11:40:45 GMT -5
I was being hyperbolic about Romine vs. Sanchez, mostly just needling Yankee fans about how lazy Sanchez is. He makes Robbie Cano look like Pete Rose.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Aug 6, 2018 12:37:38 GMT -5
I think the best catchers are ferocious... they want the ball or want to direct the ball in all situations. Anything away from them, they pounce. Runners on the basepaths? Rifling the ball towards the bag...
Sanchez is smooth at the dish but doesn't convey that killer instinct. Pudge Rodriguez (the modern gold standard) or Yadi Molina have that approach. Gary sometimes seems tentative behind the dish. I think that's another reason for those incessant, annoying, momentum-killing mound visits. It's almost like he can't convey the confidence needed to throw down a signal, get that pitch, and have it be the right one. It takes conversation, consultation, convincing... I wish he played 1B, but man that bat can play at C when it's "on."
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Post by alum on Aug 31, 2018 8:36:32 GMT -5
Sox 93-42 Yanks 84-50
They play 6 times between now and the end of the season. As much as I would like to think its over, I remain concerned.
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Post by hchoops on Aug 31, 2018 8:41:07 GMT -5
I checked with the commissioner and MLB has decided to still play the rest of the season despite the big lead for the Bosox Boston Red Sox 79-34New York Yankees 68-42 9.5 backKY--Can you check with the commissioner again? Changed tune a bit since Aug 8, yet still 8 in the loss column and 3 weeks closer to the end
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Post by alum on Aug 31, 2018 9:24:07 GMT -5
Boston Red Sox 79-34New York Yankees 68-42 9.5 backKY--Can you check with the commissioner again? Chnged tune a bit since Aug 8, yet still 8 in the loss column and 3 weeks closer to the end Yeah, but all it took was a three game losing streak, a couple of injuries, and some late summer blues to start getting me nervous. Even the wins seem harder now. The 6 games left against the Yankees are really the thing. Were the Sox to lose 5 of 6, the word "massacre" would reemerge.
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Post by Tom on Aug 31, 2018 10:23:43 GMT -5
Chnged tune a bit since Aug 8, yet still 8 in the loss column and 3 weeks closer to the end Yeah, but all it took was a three game losing streak, a couple of injuries, and some late summer blues to start getting me nervous. Even the wins seem harder now. The 6 games left against the Yankees are really the thing. Were the Sox to lose 5 of 6, the word "massacre" would reemerg Instead of using starters one through five, the Sox have been using 2, 3, 7, 8, and 9. That's a recipe for disaster. The bottom of the lineup is anemic - but has largely been offset by the top half of the order being great. When one or two guys in the bottom of the order get hot, this team puts up a ton of runs. However when table-setters Betts and Benintendi have a little cold spell at the same time, runs get awfully hard to find
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Post by HCFC45 on Aug 31, 2018 16:13:16 GMT -5
Look at it another way.... Sox have 27 games left and the Yankees 28. If the Sox go 16 - 11 the Yanks would have to go 28 - 3 to tie. If the Sox go 15 - 12 the Yanks would have to go 27 - 4 to tie. Even of the Sox go 14 - 13 the Yanks would have to go 26 - 5 to tie. I would not worry too much f you are a Sox fan. The only worries they have are getting their starters back, healthy and primed for the playoffs. !
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Aug 31, 2018 17:12:39 GMT -5
Look at it another way.... Sox have 27 games left and the Yankees 28. If the Sox go 16 - 11 the Yanks would have to go 28 - 3 to tie. If the Sox go 15 - 12 the Yanks would have to go 27 - 4 to tie. Even of the Sox go 14 - 13 the Yanks would have to go 26 - 5 to tie. I would not worry too much f you are a Sox fan. The only worries they have are getting their starters back, healthy and primed for the playoffs. ! HCFC, my dear friend..........I don't think the Yankees have the ability to go either 28-3, 27-4 or 26-5 with 28 games left on their schedule. )
I wish I felt as confident as you, but with the current state of the pitching staff, I am a bit nervous like alum. Here's my glass half empty look:
There is NO way I want the Yanks to be still alive for the final weekend 3 game series. So, I want the Sox to be at least 4 up with 3 to play. That means we're talking about the next 24 games for the Sox, and 25 for the Yanks. They play each other 3 times in those games. God forbid, the Yanks sweep that series. Right now, Sox up 8 in the loss column. Getting swept would trim it to 5 games. That would mean, in the other 21 games (22 for the Yanks) leading up to the final weekend, the evil empire would only need to gain 2 additional games to be 3 behind going into the last weekend.
Just taking 1 of those games in the first series will be huge.
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Post by HCFC45 on Aug 31, 2018 21:04:00 GMT -5
The Red Sox have a terrific team and should be the clear favorite to win the AL pennant and the World Series, too. The Yankees have a good young team but need pitching.They are way under the spending cap and are expected to add some quality starters next year. For now it's all Sox, all the time. ---- from a realistic Yankees fan. OK classmate of '67.... Don't know how young the Yanks are, but I'll go so far as to say "the Sox have an Excellent young team" in Betts, Benintendi, Bradley, Bogaerts, Devers, Swihart, Holt, Vasquez, etc. and pitching with Sale, Porcello, Erod, etc., etc., etc. The worry going into this year was how to replace Big Papi? Well, JD Martinez is doing just fine and Mooreland is a very good all around replacement for Hanley and we have one of the best managers in baseball in Alex Cora! ! On a side note... I met Tito Francona (his daughter was dating a Bucknell player) at a HC BB game at the Hart in 2007/2008, shook hands with him and thanked him for the Sox World Series wins in 2004 and 2007 telling him that my parents had then been alive for 3 Red Sox World Championships(1918 being the first) and 2007 marked their 67th wedding anniversary! He thanked me for telling him that! I also mentioned that to David Ortiz recently when I met him at a signing and photo op for purchasing a case of his wine! He was pleased! He has huge hands!!! ! I look forward to many more years of games with the Yanks! I must say it is tough being married to a Yankee fan, but this century has been easy!!! As for my dear friend NAD, sleep well and worry not!!! !
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