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Post by sader1970 on Dec 3, 2019 17:24:48 GMT -5
As usual, you have your facts wrong. She said this when she lived in Floral Park and then Levittown. Neither of them, nor Bay Shore, are cities. You, New York traitor! My late, great freshman year roommate from Boston thought I talked funny .
So, I asked him, "how many people live in Boston and talk like you?" He went on: "Boston is a very large city. We have about 800,000 people!" I nod my head and say "how many people do you think live on Long Island?" He said (very ignorant of geography but deadly serious), "well is it as big as Martha's Vineyard?" I assured him it was. He then wouldn't hazard a guess. I told him at the time there were 1 million living in Suffolk county, 1.5 million in Nassau county and that didn't include Brooklyn and Queens which were physically on Long Island but part of NYC. Honest to God, his eyes popped out of his head as if they discovered little green people on the dark side of the moon. So, I say, "800,000 vs. 2.5 million+ people. Who talks funny now?"
The final irony is he went on to become Director of Admissions at Columbia University Law School living many years in Manhattan where he swore he'd never live.
I saw him the final time at our 25th reunion and met his wife. I told his wife the story and he remembered it and laughed and it seemed he no longer had his anti-New York perspective.
P.S. I'd rather drive in NYC any day over Boston.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 4, 2019 0:04:58 GMT -5
Bump- Nickname and Logo to be unveiled today. Everyone is pretty much assuming Worcester Red Sox. I'll be surprised if it's something different. It is likely that if the team is the Worcester Red Sox, many people will shorten it to WooSox, just as the Pawtucket Red Sox were shortened to PawSox. One difference would be that people on the street came up with the abbreviated nickname and the team jumped on the bandwagon. My guess is that the team will announce WooSox as an official shortened nickname. I've always found it silly when someone/something is given a name and then the person who came up with the name tell 3rd parties that they want the 3rd party to use a totally different name. Almost like naming a building "Joanne Chouinard Luth Recreation and Wellness Center" and then telling students instead of making up their own nickname, they should call it "The Jo" Maybe they will just call it the field house.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 4, 2019 0:13:00 GMT -5
NYC and Boston are not comparable. When I first arrived at HC I was taken aback by the animus and sense of competition with NYC displayed by Boston area students. "You New Yawkas are full of it. NY sucks." Boston was not mentioned in my NY experience except in the history books and, of course, the incredible Celtics. This was my experience maybe not the experience of others at HC. Boston is relatively small in physical size and population. (Ranked in the mid-20's of major US cities.) Moreover, iBoston is an American city, surely with some international presence. And, it is a wonderful, beautiful place to live and work and play. (Except, if memory serves me correctly, the bars during my underage tippling years in Boston closed at midnight on Saturday nights. Ugh.) On the other hand NYC is not only larger by a factor of 10, it is entirely different. NYC is an international world center, a capital in too many areas to recount. I found the City a powerful, beautiful, wonderful, open, challenging, exciting but exhausting place to live. NYC is the definition of bigness. If you can make it in NY, you can make it anywhere. I truly love NY. Finally, Boston of late has been the home of champions - the Sawx, Pats, Bruins with the Celtics extremely strong as usual. NY teams, fugget 'bout it. However, in NYC, yes, fans care to their core but the teams are not as important to the character of the city as they are in Beantown. Boston is a small major city that punches above its weight. NYC is NY,NY. And, both are too damn expensive. Love them both. I spent too many nights in Back Bay, much to the detriment of my "studies"and grades at HC. And also, I LoveHC Half way through this post I started hearing Old Blue Eyes, Frank Sinatra singing in my head. He never goes out of style. Thanks for the audio.
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Post by cmo on Dec 4, 2019 20:17:01 GMT -5
I didn't really mean it. It was a rhetorical statement. My mind is closed on the subject. Now, let's get back to the WooSox/PawSox. You cannot fathom the depth of my disappointment that the nickname is not the Wormsox. The brewery should have ponied up for the nicknaming rights. "A Piece of Mass in Every Glass!" They have some good beers. One if the other Woo breweries (Greater Good) is better. Treehouse (Charlton) still the best. Hopefully polar park will have some locals on tap. I’ll treat rf1. 😃
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Post by Tom on Dec 5, 2019 9:09:24 GMT -5
You cannot fathom the depth of my disappointment that the nickname is not the Wormsox. The brewery should have ponied up for the nicknaming rights. "A Piece of Mass in Every Glass!" They have some good beers. One if the other Woo breweries (Greater Good) is better. Treehouse (Charlton) still the best. Hopefully polar park will have some locals on tap. I’ll treat rf1. 😃 There is a connection with Polar and Wormtown, so I would expect to see some Wormtown there
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 5, 2019 11:36:50 GMT -5
Is the city of Worcester known as "Wormtown"? I had never heard of that before hearing it on this board
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Post by Tom on Dec 5, 2019 12:54:59 GMT -5
Is the city of Worcester known as "Wormtown"? I had never heard of that before hearing it on this board Yes
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 5, 2019 13:12:28 GMT -5
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 5, 2019 13:28:54 GMT -5
Thanks pak. I wondered where that came from.
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Post by sarasota on Dec 5, 2019 13:46:02 GMT -5
From my perspective, having come from Greater NYC to Worcester/Boston in '59, I always felt Boston was "provincial" compared to NYC, very much a small town in comparison yet with great charm.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 5, 2019 14:07:21 GMT -5
The first reference I can recall of "Wormtown" was in Alternative weekly newspaper "Worcester Magazine" which isn't that alternative anymore since it is now owned by the conglomerate that owns the T&G and is bone thin with only one editorial staffer for the whole weekly publication, at least as of the last time I had access to reading it.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 5, 2019 14:10:54 GMT -5
I guess "City of Seven Hills" has retreated as "the Worm" and "the Woo" have ascended. Follows the whole pattern of de-reverencing in America.
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Post by rf1 on Jan 11, 2020 9:10:13 GMT -5
Worcester Baseball Park already some $30M more than expected
Polar Park costs increase - Worcester, Sox work out ways to cover added expenseswww.telegram.com/news/20200110/polar-park-costs-increase---worcester-sox-work-out-ways-to-cover-added-expensesWORCESTER — Construction costs for Polar Park have increased by $9.5 million over initial estimates, while costs to acquire the properties needed for the ballpark, relocate businesses and prepare the site for development have run roughly $20 million more than what was anticipated.My guess is the next shoe to drop will be that it will not be ready by the targeted April 2021 opening date.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 11, 2020 9:35:02 GMT -5
My faith in you has been restored!
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Post by rf1 on Jan 11, 2020 9:43:29 GMT -5
My faith in you has been restored!
This project along with the team move is all but guaranteed to continue to give me more information to post for the next decade. Cost overruns, construction delays, missed revenue projections, horrible cold weather for the April games, dwindling attendance after the newness wears off, less new surrounding development than expected, etc...
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Post by hchoops on Jan 11, 2020 10:12:50 GMT -5
My faith in you has been restored!
This project along with the team move is all but guaranteed to continue to give me more information to post for the next decade. Cost overruns, construction delays, missed revenue projections, horrible cold weather for the April games, dwindling attendance after the newness wears off, less new surrounding development than expected, etc...
you are a real optimist !
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Post by Wormtown Railers Fan on Jan 11, 2020 14:23:16 GMT -5
My faith in you has been restored!
This project along with the team move is all but guaranteed to continue to give me more information to post for the next decade. Cost overruns, construction delays, missed revenue projections, horrible cold weather for the April games, dwindling attendance after the newness wears off, less new surrounding development than expected, etc...
You may want to get a life.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 11, 2020 16:08:45 GMT -5
I heard one wag say recently that recessions are now fully avoidable through Government Policies. That means we're in for a Whopper of one around when the stadium opens.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 11, 2020 16:23:08 GMT -5
This project along with the team move is all but guaranteed to continue to give me more information to post for the next decade. Cost overruns, construction delays, missed revenue projections, horrible cold weather for the April games, dwindling attendance after the newness wears off, less new surrounding development than expected, etc...
You may want to get a life. If that happens Worcerterites will respond with the ingrained fatalism that is their birthright, and HC will welcome back Ed Augustus as Director of Government and Community relations.😁
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Post by Tom on Jan 11, 2020 16:31:17 GMT -5
A lot will depend on how many out-of-towners will come to a second game after going through Kelly Sq for their first
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jan 11, 2020 16:40:56 GMT -5
I went through Kelly Square last Sunday, and could not find the stadium site. There must be an easier way to get to the location.
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Post by Tom on Jan 11, 2020 16:53:55 GMT -5
I went through Kelly Square last Sunday, and could not find the stadium site. There must be an easier way to get to the location. Enter Kelly Sq from I-290. Drive between the two gas stations. The first traffic light will be right before an underpass beneath the railroad. New stadium will be on your right
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 11, 2020 16:55:18 GMT -5
I went through Kelly Square last Sunday, and could not find the stadium site. There must be an easier way to get to the location. Some people may get off at College Square and just drive down Southbridge St. to make it easier. The Stadium site doesn't stand out because nothing is built yet and it sits on a postage stamp sized lot for a Stadium.
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Post by Tom on Jan 12, 2020 10:52:46 GMT -5
I went through Kelly Square last Sunday, and could not find the stadium site. There must be an easier way to get to the location. Some people may get off at College Square and just drive down Southbridge St. to make it easier. The Stadium site doesn't stand out because nothing is built yet and it sits on a postage stamp sized lot for a Stadium. People familiar with Worcester will use various back roads Many will just trust the GPS and use zero thought
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Post by rf1 on Jan 12, 2020 11:15:08 GMT -5
In addition to the nightmare Kelly Square driving situation, where are all these patrons going to park? Will it be nearly all free parking like it was in Pawtucket? Would already imagine that ticket prices were going to be much higher as seems to always be the case with a new or improved stadium. The cost overruns have already resulted in the new added per ticket debt service fee being doubled before any real progress on construction yet. Would think it will be much more expensive total day out for a family to attend a AAA Sox game in Worcester than it traditionally had been in Pawtucket for many years. Will be interesting to see how the much higher total event cost affects attendance and the demographics of patrons.Will games in Worcester be less family oriented? A lot of what I have read is that WooSox brass is targeting the younger college aged crowd. I myself have found this odd given that the city's college students are only around in session for no more than 20 of the 70 home games.
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