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Post by hchoops on Oct 31, 2018 21:28:57 GMT -5
Let's hope not...some good effects from Moses, many disappointing consequences. A lot of irony in the Barclay Center (home of the Nets) being more or less where the Dodgers wanted to build a new ballpark. How true.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 24, 2018 11:00:34 GMT -5
Looking at the webcam this morning -- working on Saturday on the new parking lot which is probably costing a million or more -- the contractor also seems to be opening up the end of City View. The college needs to have City View become a new entrance as they demolish the field house.
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Post by DiMarz on Nov 25, 2018 14:12:13 GMT -5
Looking at the webcam this morning -- working on Saturday on the new parking lot which is probably costing a million or more -- the contractor also seems to be opening up the end of City View. The college needs to have City View become a new entrance as they demolish the field house. Back in the day, City View was available for parking and the gate was frequently open to allow the large crowds a second exit...Parking on City View has been restricted to resident permit only for many years now..Does HC now own all the property on both sides of the street?
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Post by Tom on Nov 26, 2018 12:12:53 GMT -5
Looking at the webcam this morning -- working on Saturday on the new parking lot which is probably costing a million or more -- the contractor also seems to be opening up the end of City View. The college needs to have City View become a new entrance as they demolish the field house. Back in the day, City View was available for parking and the gate was frequently open to allow the large crowds a second exit...Parking on City View has been restricted to resident permit only for many years now..Does HC now own all the property on both sides of the street? Phreek would know better than I, but I believe there is still one property on street that is not owned by the school. Even without street parking, I would think they could still open it during construction. Probably easier than diverting 100 percent of the cars down McCarthy Rd
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 26, 2018 13:09:08 GMT -5
With respect to City View, Holy Cross now owns all but three properties on City View. Off the top of my head, I don't know all the street numbers, but one is to the immediate west of the Jesuit residence, and one is #20, the last house on the south side of the street before the 'gate'/
In one of the articles on the city's Planning Board approval of either the new parking lot or the Creative Arts Center there was mention that HC had met, a few months ago, with the immediate neighbors to discuss the forthcoming construction projects, and apparently there was little or no objection.
HC now rents at least one of the houses it owns on City View to junior faculty. There was notice of availability on the Provost's website.
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 26, 2018 13:45:10 GMT -5
PPhreek - we know this is going to be a 'garage' (not a 'lot') - Do you know how deep (floors) they are going down ?
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Post by rickii on Nov 26, 2018 14:22:11 GMT -5
PPhreek - we know this is going to be a 'garage' (not a 'lot') - Do you know how deep (floors) they are going down ? It is ?
Just assumed it would be an extention of the surface lot(s).
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 26, 2018 14:29:35 GMT -5
I might be wrong - thought someone mentioned garage - my bad
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 26, 2018 16:01:09 GMT -5
It would be nice if there could be 2 or 3 parking levels below ground level. But, isn't that hill almost solid rock? Blasting into that could be prohibitively expensive.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 26, 2018 16:01:45 GMT -5
PPhreek - we know this is going to be a 'garage' (not a 'lot') - Do you know how deep (floors) they are going down ? This is a parking lot. It is primarily designed to replace spaces lost when existing lot(s) are taken by the Center for Creative Arts. Howerer, the number of new spaces (275) is very likely significantly more than the number being lost, so unless students bring more cars, there will be more spaces available for those attending a game at the Hart. The college's long term plan was/is? to build a parking garage between Hart and Hogan. That may still come to pass, but, given the amount of money being spent on this new lot, I would think it is a few years off. IMO, the unavailability of nearby parking on cold winter nights will be a big reason why capacity attendance for basketball, and for hockey, if the rink is ever expanded, will be hard to come by. Given the choice of watching a game with Bucknell in-person on a cold February night when the closest parking is on College St halfway down the hill, or at home with Stadium TV, ......I think you know the answer.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 26, 2018 16:04:37 GMT -5
It would be nice if there could be 2 or 3 parking levels below ground level. But, isn't that hill almost solid rock? Blasting into that could be prohibitively expensive. They've been blasting surface bedrock for a month just to level the lot. Excavating 30 feet of bedrock would exponentially increase the construction cost of a garage.
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Post by Tom on Nov 26, 2018 16:18:17 GMT -5
IMO, the unavailability of nearby parking on cold winter nights will be a big reason why capacity attendance for basketball, and for hockey, if the rink is ever expanded, will be hard to come by. Given the choice of watching a game with Bucknell in-person on a cold February night when the closest parking is on College St halfway down the hill, or at home with Stadium TV, ......I think you know the answer. I remember in the early days of Hart, there were shuttle buses from the old Carlin lot (currently known as Stein Hall) up to Hart for every basketball game.I also recall my father telling me it would be quicker if we walked instead of waiting for the bus to fill up.
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Post by DiMarz on Nov 26, 2018 17:02:11 GMT -5
Might be quicker downhill, but not up!
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Post by trimster on Nov 26, 2018 19:22:54 GMT -5
IMO, the unavailability of nearby parking on cold winter nights will be a big reason why capacity attendance for basketball, and for hockey, if the rink is ever expanded, will be hard to come by. Given the choice of watching a game with Bucknell in-person on a cold February night when the closest parking is on College St halfway down the hill, or at home with Stadium TV, ......I think you know the answer. I remember in the early days of Hart, there were shuttle buses from the old Carlin lot (currently known as Stein Hall) up to Hart for every basketball game.I also recall my father telling me it would be quicker if we walked instead of waiting for the bus to fill up. It was a different time; no cable, needless to say no I phones, college basketball in New England was very good and very competitive for the end of season 4 team ECAC Tourney tourney, (HC was the only team of the 7 that annually competed for the 4 spots, to make it every year for the 5-6 years the ECAC New England playoffs existed), HC returned to the national limelight to some extent and you couldn't get into the Hart Center if you weren't a season ticket holder. Every game was a sellout from 1975-1980. Students bought season tickets at a reduced rate. Parking was allowed on the side streets off College Street, as well as the freshmen field and the football practice fields behind the Hart Center but if you didn't arrive early, you weren't parking on College Hill. It was a lot of fun and I was fortunate to see it firsthand. Oh, how could I forget to mention Bob Cousy provided the color commentary for the broadcasts on TV 27 and a cult figure named Igor made his bones shortly after the Hart Center opened.
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Post by Tom on Nov 27, 2018 9:03:58 GMT -5
Might be quicker downhill, but not up! Not according to my father. However, prior to my own days on Mt St James, going to the game was sufficient treat that complaining about the hike up the hill wasn't even considered an option
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Post by Tom on Nov 27, 2018 9:09:31 GMT -5
I remember in the early days of Hart, there were shuttle buses from the old Carlin lot (currently known as Stein Hall) up to Hart for every basketball game.I also recall my father telling me it would be quicker if we walked instead of waiting for the bus to fill up. HC returned to the national limelight to some extent and you couldn't get into the Hart Center if you weren't a season ticket holder. Every game was a sellout from 1975-1980. And you couldn't buy season tickets. There was a waiting list When I became a student in the Fall of '81, Dean Wormer and I went down to the fieldhouse a half hour or so before tickets became available to students to get into the inevitable line. There was no line and we got the first two student tickets for the 81-82 season. Things fell fast after Perry Jr graduated.
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Post by Dean Wormer on Nov 27, 2018 9:45:13 GMT -5
I do not remember being first in line, but do remember being told to get there early to get student tickets and the subsequent absence of a line. Seem to remember having IDs of a handful of other students to buy for them as well, but my memory is more than a bit hazy on that.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 27, 2018 10:00:29 GMT -5
THat sounds more like the behavior of a denizen Animal House than a Dean.
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Post by Tom on Nov 27, 2018 10:29:13 GMT -5
Seem to remember having IDs of a handful of other students to buy for them as well, but my memory is more than a bit hazy on that. Jim O'Neil and Ray Schultz? By the way, don't test my memory on anything even remotely important, I will fail. I do pretty well remembering meaningless stuff, but I am basically useless on important stuff
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 27, 2018 10:37:45 GMT -5
Sounds too familiar...I think.
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Post by DiMarz on Nov 27, 2018 12:10:01 GMT -5
HC returned to the national limelight to some extent and you couldn't get into the Hart Center if you weren't a season ticket holder. Every game was a sellout from 1975-1980. And you couldn't buy season tickets. There was a waiting list When I became a student in the Fall of '81, Dean Wormer and I went down to the fieldhouse a half hour or so before tickets became available to students to get into the inevitable line. There was no line and we got the first two student tickets for the 81-82 season. Things fell fast after Perry Jr graduated. Yes, I started season tickets in the 74-75 season, last season in the Auditorium....About 326 people there opening night, jam packed by the end of the season..I new the Hart would open the next season, and wanted to get in on the ground floor! Been there ever since....
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 8, 2018 9:55:56 GMT -5
By the webcam, started paving the new lot this morning. City View is open to access the Luth / Hart; the construction trucks are using it to both enter and exit the top of the hill.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 13, 2018 8:17:12 GMT -5
Looking at the webcam this morning, lighting is being installed on the new parking lot.
And a construction trailer has appeared near the entrance to the Hart. Three guesses: 1.) demolition of the old field house will start at semester break. 2.) HC will celebrate the 175th with the unveiling of a Japanese tea garden 3.) the cat is out of the bag on a hitherto unannounced construction contract to expand the rink. _________________________
Also, I think the college re-paved at least part of City View to go along with creating the new entrance.
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 13, 2018 9:29:02 GMT -5
PPhreek - are they aiming to complete the lot and make it available for use this winter ?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 13, 2018 11:27:32 GMT -5
It appears so. Once the light poles are fully installed which should be done by tomorrow at the rate they are going,, the only major remaining task would be striping. And no snowstorms in sight.
(I do not know whether the asphalt is just the base course, or is the finished paving. But given it is a parking lot, one can survive on the base course for a while.)
They still need to landscape the islands, but that will wait until next year.
There look to be three entrances, one opposite Figge, one off the road leading up to the Hart entrance, and one perhaps 200 feet north of the Figge entrance.
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