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Post by sader1970 on Jul 5, 2018 12:55:44 GMT -5
Posting one more time for posterity regarding the '67 season. New Coach Tom Boisture (he of NCAA violation fame allegedly for pre-season practices in Canada, I am told, by Classmates on the football team but never made public) claimed to the assembled students prior to that season that we would have a 10-0 season. We went 5-5 and The Crusader sports headline at the end of the year: 5+5=10+0.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 6, 2018 8:39:09 GMT -5
I recall attending the chilly 1966 UConn game, which was the last chance to watch a home game as a student. It was a good day for Jack Lentz as HC dominated. The game did end in time to get back to the dorm in time to see Ara Parseghian tie one for the Gipper. Out of curiousity, I've checked the NY Times account of the game and it gave the size of the crowd as 5,000, which was quite low for that time. As for the disappointing 1967 season, I remember reading a pre-season column in the NY Times sports section that said the experienced Holy Cross team could be the "strongest in the East," adding that the only problem was replacing Jack Lentz (which turned out to be impossible). I saw the BC game in 67, HC should have won. Missed an extra point and two field goals that were 25 yards or less (of course, maybe HC should have done better in the red zone and field goal attempts wouldn't have been necessary). Final was 13-6. For those who witnessed the entire season (I did not, if anything I was a BC fan in those days, forgive me)….did HC snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory in other games that year too? As far as the ND/MSU game goes, you realize that if the game hadn't ended in a tie, no one would be talking about it 52 years later. |
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Post by beaven302 on Jul 6, 2018 13:40:44 GMT -5
I recall attending the chilly 1966 UConn game, which was the last chance to watch a home game as a student. It was a good day for Jack Lentz as HC dominated. The game did end in time to get back to the dorm in time to see Ara Parseghian tie one for the Gipper. Out of curiousity, I've checked the NY Times account of the game and it gave the size of the crowd as 5,000, which was quite low for that time. As for the disappointing 1967 season, I remember reading a pre-season column in the NY Times sports section that said the experienced Holy Cross team could be the "strongest in the East," adding that the only problem was replacing Jack Lentz (which turned out to be impossible). I saw the BC game in 67, HC should have won. Missed an extra point and two field goals that were 25 yards or less (of course, maybe HC should have done better in the red zone and field goal attempts wouldn't have been necessary). Final was 13-6. For those who witnessed the entire season (I did not, if anything I was a BC fan in those days, forgive me)….did HC snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory in other games that year too? As far as the ND/MSU game goes, you realize that if the game hadn't ended in a tie, no one would be talking about it 52 years later. This was the reverse of the '66 season, which had many close victories: Dartmouth missed a two-point conversion that would have given it the lead, a hard-fought tie at Colgate that easily could have been a loss, a last-second goal line stand at BU, and a failed UMass two-point conversion that would have tied the score late in the game.. |
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Post by breezy on Jul 6, 2018 14:11:08 GMT -5
If you want a quick recap of the 1966 HC-Dartmouth game, here is the Dartmouth point of view.
The HC game starts around 3:15, and runs until about 5:40.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 6, 2018 15:00:59 GMT -5
Well said, mm67!
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 6, 2018 15:33:46 GMT -5
Yes, they decided to try to continue and extend the country's longest winning streak as opposed to keeping an unbeaten streak alive. Of course, in that monsoon rainstorm, an extra point was not a 100% sure thing either.
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Post by hc87 on Jul 6, 2018 17:04:11 GMT -5
A little before my time, my first memories (and somewhat understanding of the game) of HC football was more the early 1970s as a kid. Hard to get a read on how "good" those post Eddie Anderson teams of the 1960s were from afar. Were that that much bettah than the teams of the 1970s in general??? Maybe...but aside from the '66 team, the 65-69 teams didn't have much success and weren't really playing schedules that much different than we would see in the 1970s. The 70s teams obviously didn't have too much success either...but were they really not as strong as the post Anderson teams of the 60s?
Just curious what guys who saw those teams from 1965-1979 think.
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Post by efg72 on Jul 6, 2018 17:14:02 GMT -5
We put forward a few players to the NFL and others drafted.
From the 72 class Jenkins, Adams and Wilson the next year. Thought Danny Harper was an exceptional talent and Mark Becker, nfl quality punter
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Post by hc87 on Jul 6, 2018 17:21:31 GMT -5
We put forward a few players to the NFL and others drafted. Off my team Jenkins, Adams and Wilson the next year. Thought Danny Harper was an exceptional talent and Mark Becker, nfl quality punter That's what I mean....it was a funny-era for HC football post Eddie Anderson, pre Carter in 1981...there were still vestiges of "big time football" i.e. wins ovah BC, Army, Air Force, Rutgers and guys getting drafted in the NFL but just as many low points...losing to then D2 schools from the Yankee Conference, talk of dropping the sport in that era etc |
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 6, 2018 17:34:19 GMT -5
It was a time of some extremes. When they were good, they were very, very good. When they were bad...
Don't forget Jon Morris '63 who was instrumental in the win over BC and went on to a decade of AFL success with the Boston/New England Pats. He is a member of the All-Time AFL Team.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 6, 2018 17:47:37 GMT -5
Good is always a relative term. IMHO, we were enthusiastic for our teams but objectively, on a national level, we were not good. Never at a ND, OSU, Alabama level. Even when we were considered a national level team we played in one, count 'em, one bowl game. And that was in my father's era, most of Crossporters' grandfathers' era. Ancient history.
The Carter/Duffner years were gloriously successful but, again, we were not at the level of the schools listed above. If we could ever achieve that level again, that's as good as we can ever hope for. IMO, Chesney and Luth are a last shot of ever achieving greatness at this lesser level. That will bring much pride to alums but let's not kid ourselves, no one will ever get us confused with a Big10 or ACC team.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 6, 2018 19:41:59 GMT -5
"no one will ever get us confused with a Big10 or ACC team." You make that sound like it is a bad thing.  |
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Post by beaven302 on Jul 11, 2018 0:11:27 GMT -5
If you want a quick recap of the 1966 HC-Dartmouth game, here is the Dartmouth point of view. The HC game starts around 3:15, and runs until about 5:40. This was a great find, but to truly get the 1966 game experience, the HC segment of the tape should be watched while sitting on a bench in a chilly bathroom while getting soaked by cold water from the shower. |
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