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Post by crossbball13 on Dec 14, 2019 9:28:38 GMT -5
Including Malik, how large is this incoming class?
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 14, 2019 9:45:42 GMT -5
18 verbals right now.
Still believe DL, TE, QB, RB are positions of need along with another K
I would think 5-6 spots open relative to expected 90 man roster
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 14, 2019 9:56:16 GMT -5
Including Malik, how large is this incoming class? Can we really know that before LOIs are signed?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 14, 2019 16:11:36 GMT -5
IMO Success in recruiting comes down to the coach. Chesney is a great coach - young, high energy, high expectations, positive in his outlook and respectful of his players. Youngsters want to play for him. They know they are going to win. Combine Chesney with the great education and great on campus experience at HC and you have a true winning formula for the youngster and HC. LoveHC Amen, brother. I see recruiting, as good as it has been, improving over the next few years as team success continues. Chesney + Luth facility + winning = a great formula for attracting top players. It probably doen't hurt having Kalif enjoying NFL success as well
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 14, 2019 16:57:33 GMT -5
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Post by breezy on Dec 14, 2019 18:59:58 GMT -5
VERBAL COMMITMENT --
DB MALIK SCOTT makes it official:
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Post by joutsHC77 on Dec 14, 2019 19:14:09 GMT -5
Great! Moving upward!
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Post by Crucis#1 on Dec 14, 2019 19:21:07 GMT -5
According to the Rivals article he is listed as 3* 6’3” 175lb. Good size for a DB.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 14, 2019 20:37:05 GMT -5
Great news!
Hope a great recruiting class segues into bringing in a competent Offensive Coordinator, arguably one of the biggest missing pieces in the program right now.
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 15, 2019 10:23:24 GMT -5
Another smoke signal - #19
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Post by HC92 on Dec 15, 2019 13:00:35 GMT -5
Another smoke signal - #19 Excellent. Would guess having a player of Scott’s stature commit while he’s on campus with others might push a few others over the line.
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Post by breezy on Dec 15, 2019 13:34:07 GMT -5
And now another smoke signal .....
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Post by timholycross on Dec 15, 2019 13:46:03 GMT -5
Brandon Spencer tweeted about 2 weeks ago he has an opportunity to play at Oklahoma State. Yes, that's not a typo. Doesn't indicate offer, or anything in that regard. Quite a leap from Lehigh to Oklahoma State. My sneaking suspicion is that Oklahoma State isn't offering him a full ride, but that's just a guess Generally, there are no partials in FBS. Counters cannot exceed 85. And a counter is anyone who receives financial aid, regardless of the amount. In FCS, the number of full scollie equivalents is capped at 63. The 63 full scollies allowed can be divided into partials, provided that the total of those receiving any fin aid does not exceed 85. In FBS, the number of full scollies allowed is 85. I did read the NCAA expense and revenue reports of several MAC schools, and these schools did not award all the full scollies authorized under the rules. The number of full scollies was in the mid 70s, IIRC. I assume this was done to save money. I distinctly recall Penn State reporting 84.5 full scollies, But this was after the reduction in scollies imposed by the Sandusky sanctions was nearing an end, so the partial 0.5 scollie may have been a legacy if PSU had divided fulls into partials to carry more recruited players on the roster during the sanction period. Question: At a place like UNH, a FCS school, there is a big difference in tuition cost between in-state and out-of-state. What does the NCAA consider 63 full schollies?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 15, 2019 13:51:17 GMT -5
Generally, there are no partials in FBS. Counters cannot exceed 85. And a counter is anyone who receives financial aid, regardless of the amount. In FCS, the number of full scollie equivalents is capped at 63. The 63 full scollies allowed can be divided into partials, provided that the total of those receiving any fin aid does not exceed 85. In FBS, the number of full scollies allowed is 85. I did read the NCAA expense and revenue reports of several MAC schools, and these schools did not award all the full scollies authorized under the rules. The number of full scollies was in the mid 70s, IIRC. I assume this was done to save money. I distinctly recall Penn State reporting 84.5 full scollies, But this was after the reduction in scollies imposed by the Sandusky sanctions was nearing an end, so the partial 0.5 scollie may have been a legacy if PSU had divided fulls into partials to carry more recruited players on the roster during the sanction period. Question: At a place like UNH, a FCS school, there is a big difference in tuition cost between in-state and out-of-state. What does the NCAA consider 63 full schollies? You have to figure that an out of stater getting a full scholly counts as one equivalent as does a kid from Manchester. Same would apply to half rides. I can't imagine that it is done on a $$$ basis
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Post by hchoops on Dec 15, 2019 14:14:52 GMT -5
And now another smoke signal ..... Is this one different from DHarry’s #19 ?
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Post by breezy on Dec 15, 2019 14:26:47 GMT -5
Yes — two smoke signals today.
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 15, 2019 14:56:23 GMT -5
Yes. Awaiting two verbals to bring class to 20
WR? 2 WR?
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 15, 2019 15:04:36 GMT -5
Wonderful to be getting high quality wide receivers. Now, can we get a QB or two that can successfully get passes to them?
BTW, I will be more excited when they have signed NLIs.
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Post by breezy on Dec 15, 2019 16:34:59 GMT -5
Maybe this is a hint.
-- Coach Chesney visits WR BRYCE BARRON at Barron's home in New Jersey. See post on December 4, page 39 of this thread.
-- Yesterday, Barron re-tweets Malik Scott's tweet regarding Scott's commitment to Holy Cross.
-- This afternoon, a Holy Cross Quality Control assistant, Ashton Grant, tweets that "Xmas came early this year."
-- Shortly thereafter, Barron re-tweets Grant's tweet.
Hmmmmm .....
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 15, 2019 17:03:40 GMT -5
Generally, there are no partials in FBS. Counters cannot exceed 85. And a counter is anyone who receives financial aid, regardless of the amount. In FCS, the number of full scollie equivalents is capped at 63. The 63 full scollies allowed can be divided into partials, provided that the total of those receiving any fin aid does not exceed 85. In FBS, the number of full scollies allowed is 85. I did read the NCAA expense and revenue reports of several MAC schools, and these schools did not award all the full scollies authorized under the rules. The number of full scollies was in the mid 70s, IIRC. I assume this was done to save money. I distinctly recall Penn State reporting 84.5 full scollies, But this was after the reduction in scollies imposed by the Sandusky sanctions was nearing an end, so the partial 0.5 scollie may have been a legacy if PSU had divided fulls into partials to carry more recruited players on the roster during the sanction period. Question: At a place like UNH, a FCS school, there is a big difference in tuition cost between in-state and out-of-state. What does the NCAA consider 63 full schollies? IIRC, when UMass jumped to FBS, their new conference required that all their full scollies be costed at the non-resident rates. But as KYCrusader notes, a full scollie represents the full cost of attendance for one individual, and if full cost of attendance for an in-state recruit is less than for a non-resident recruit, the school can't pocket the 'savings' and distribute it to others.
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Post by hc2020 on Dec 15, 2019 17:23:56 GMT -5
Maybe this is a hint. -- Coach Chesney visits WR BRYCE BARRON at Barron's home in New Jersey. See post on December 4, page 39 of this thread. -- Yesterday, Barron re-tweets Malik Scott's tweet regarding Scott's commitment to Holy Cross. -- This afternoon, a Holy Cross Quality Control assistant, Ashton Grant, tweets that "Xmas came early this year." -- Shortly thereafter, Barron re-tweets Grant's tweet. Hmmmmm ..... We will all know for sure come Wednesday when recruits can sign their NLI’s for the first time. Twitter should be buzzing all day long. It’s shaping up to be a terrific recruiting class. A talented group with great athleticism. Now it will be up to Coach Chesney and his staff to teach them well. Looking forward to seeing how this group matures over time into the foundation of the team.
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Post by hc2020 on Dec 15, 2019 17:30:49 GMT -5
Yes. Awaiting two verbals to bring class to 20 WR? 2 WR? I can confirm that Bryce Barron and his family were on campus this weekend for an official visit.
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 15, 2019 18:52:58 GMT -5
Offers from Bowling Green, Navy and recently Maine for Barron
Another kid I saw a little buzz around who I heard was on campus was Byron Shipman. 15+ offers. WR from NJ with I believe 10 FBS offers.
Not sure on both but will be on lookout on Twitter.
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Post by breezy on Dec 15, 2019 19:10:05 GMT -5
VERBAL COMMITMENT!!! (And good insight from dharry 13) --
No previous offer to Shipman has been noted previously.
Rated -- Rivals: 3* (5.5); 247 Sports -- 3* (82). 247 Sports reports Shipman had offers from 17 schools, including 12 FBS schools.
Article from November:
hudsonreporter.com/2019/11/21/athlete-of-the-week-82/
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 15, 2019 19:32:43 GMT -5
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