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Post by cmo on Oct 12, 2018 9:11:48 GMT -5
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Post by crusader12 on Oct 12, 2018 9:22:00 GMT -5
Ugly building.
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Post by hchoops on Oct 12, 2018 9:56:08 GMT -5
much more attractive than the Luth
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 12, 2018 10:00:08 GMT -5
I thought of the Luth when I saw it. HC used to want to maintain the brick look among it's buildings. Now it appears that we are trying to look like a "Big Box" village.
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Post by hc6774 on Oct 12, 2018 10:16:25 GMT -5
expect parking & street access will dominate the discussion with the Planning Cmte
will the +/- parking associated with the building increase or decrease the total spaces now on campus?
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Post by rickii on Oct 12, 2018 10:33:48 GMT -5
Looks very similar to the new Fieldhouse renderings....as well as the new main entrance to Hart.
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Post by purplehaze on Oct 12, 2018 10:51:23 GMT -5
The Luth webcam has been turned a few degrees and is now showing the new parking lot work - it looks to be quite large and have to guess the total parking spaces on campus will remain the same or increase slightly (and less green space).
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Post by alum on Oct 12, 2018 12:50:31 GMT -5
Before the construction of Figge and Luth, I felt that the space between Easy Street and Hart was so large and so barren that it acted as a barrier. It looks like this new building will pull Hart closer to the rest of the campus. That is a good thing, I suspect. I am not sure how I feel about the outside design, but I think that the upper campus will have a distinctly different feel than the lower campus once this and the Fieldhouse renovations are complete. I wouldn't be shocked to see a renovation of the back of Hogan to make it fit in better.
I do like the look of the theatre/concert hall.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Oct 12, 2018 13:44:05 GMT -5
$180M+ in construction, but the basketball arena receives only some new paint and new plastic bleachers....
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Oct 12, 2018 13:50:55 GMT -5
Yes, but we can now better address the demand for Gamelan performances
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Post by matunuck on Oct 12, 2018 13:58:06 GMT -5
$180M+ in construction, but the basketball arena receives only some new paint and new plastic bleachers.... So true -- the lack of major changes to the arena is still puzzling. I toured in August and was underwhelmed considering it's supposed to be our marque sport.
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Post by rickii on Oct 15, 2018 11:31:31 GMT -5
$180M+ in construction, but the basketball arena receives only some new paint and new plastic bleachers.... So true -- the lack of major changes to the arena is still puzzling. I toured in August and was underwhelmed considering it's supposed to be our marque sport. Sorry....not true.
AIR....
* The entire sub floor was dug up with new/updated electrical improvements.
* A brand new competition floor was installed
* A new ceiling with new light fixtures was installed
* New railings/glass sections were installed on the upper level
* Two ancient ceiling hung baskets were removed and replaced with modern floor level baskets
* New sound system installed
* A remodeled Bud Ryan suite with new/relocated entrance
* New locker rooms with modern added features
( pp - please feel free to add anything I may have missed )
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Post by matunuck on Oct 15, 2018 11:36:45 GMT -5
Sorry but true for me at least. I toured in August and found it underwhelming. If you don't agree, that's fine.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 15, 2018 16:00:01 GMT -5
So true -- the lack of major changes to the arena is still puzzling. I toured in August and was underwhelmed considering it's supposed to be our marque sport. Sorry....not true.
AIR....
* The entire sub floor was dug up with new/updated electrical improvements.
* A brand new competition floor was installed
* A new ceiling with new light fixtures was installed
* New railings/glass sections were installed on the upper level
* Two ancient ceiling hung baskets were removed and replaced with modern floor level baskets
* New sound system installed
* A remodeled Bud Ryan suite with new/relocated entrance
* New locker rooms with modern added features
( pp - please feel free to add anything I may have missed )
My guess is that HC spent over $10 million on hoops-related constriction at the Hart / Luth. The new practice court, the new basketball suites, including the locker rooms, etc. What HC did not do was raise the roof to allow a video screen above center court; install more seatbacks even if this reduced seating capacity, and more importantly, did not blow out two walls and add seats. Harvard finished renovating Lavietes, at a cost of $15 million. Seating was reduced. .
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Post by matunuck on Oct 15, 2018 19:44:18 GMT -5
Well I guess we are back where we started. I find still it underwhelming and puzzling to spend so comparatively little on our main basketball arena for a sport we were once well known for. I grant you that it’s better than the old high school gym but it just doesn’t have a true D-1 feel — to me at least.
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 15, 2018 19:59:00 GMT -5
Could a few wins at the start of the season change that feeling?
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Post by matunuck on Oct 15, 2018 20:53:16 GMT -5
Should would 👍
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 16, 2018 7:43:00 GMT -5
Way back when, i.e.,the old board, there was discussion about HC doing something similar to what St. Joe's did. See description here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagan_Arenawww.thorntontomasetti.com/projects/hagan_arena_expansion/^^^ See photo gallery The cost of doing a Hagan at the Hart would have been more expensive than what St. Joe's did on City Line Ave: requiring blowing out the east wall and the north wall; raising the roof. The resulting seating configuration would be asymmetrical. And there would have been a legitimate cost tradeoff between building an entirely new arena seating 4,000 and expanding Hart seating by about 1,000. And 4,000 seats wouldn't satisfy BE requirements that the mean's team play at a venue, IIRC, with at least 6,500 seats. For those posters with higher conference-affiliation aspirations, the net result would have been the men playing at the DCU and the women playing at a 4,000 seat Hart.
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Post by purplehaze on Oct 16, 2018 8:03:12 GMT -5
As long as we're in the PL, the Hart is perfectly fine - get a grip everyone and look around at attendance figures in the mid-low major conferences. I like the idea of packing 3600 into the Hart and having a real home court advantage.
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Post by trimster on Oct 16, 2018 8:09:19 GMT -5
Way back when, i.e.,the old board, there was discussion about HC doing something similar to what St. Joe's did. See description here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagan_Arenawww.thorntontomasetti.com/projects/hagan_arena_expansion/^^^ See photo gallery The cost of doing a Hagan at the Hart would have been more expensive than what St. Joe's did on City Line Ave: requiring blowing out the east wall and the north wall; raising the roof. The resulting seating configuration would be asymmetrical. And there would have been a legitimate cost tradeoff between building an entirely new arena seating 4,000 and expanding Hart seating by about 1,000. And 4,000 seats wouldn't satisfy BE requirements that the mean's team play at a venue, IIRC, with at least 6,500 seats. For those posters with higher conference-affiliation aspirations, the net result would have been the men playing at the DCU and the women playing at a 4,000 seat Hart. Ah the DCU, nee Worcester Centrum, the 13,000 seat arena being constructed in the late 70's, right at the time Dave Gavitt was forming the Big East Conference. All of the stars were in alignment, well almost all of the stars.
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Post by Ignutz on Oct 19, 2018 14:05:16 GMT -5
As long as we're in the PL, the Hart is perfectly fine - get a grip everyone and look around at attendance figures in the mid-low major conferences. I like the idea of packing 3600 into the Hart and having a real home court advantage. I couldn't agree more.
Let's save the complaints for when the place is banged-out for every game even when the games are all televised (see Potter, Vicens, Doran, Perry, Witts, et al from '75 to early '80s), and we loyal supporters start getting shut out.
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Post by rf1 on Oct 20, 2018 9:17:43 GMT -5
I don't get all the money being spent on the new arts center. I had been told many years ago that Holy Cross wasn't in the ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS.
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Post by matunuck on Oct 20, 2018 11:13:26 GMT -5
I’d rather have nicer D-1 arena with REDUCED seating than what we ended with.
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 20, 2018 16:00:00 GMT -5
Well said, 67.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 24, 2018 14:14:52 GMT -5
Looking at the webcam today, the new parking lot is quite the project. The contractor has brought in enough blasting mats to level the top of the hill. Perhaps the music department could synchronize the dynamite blasts with the cannon sequence in the closing stanza of the 1812 Overture.
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