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Post by cmo on Dec 8, 2018 20:29:49 GMT -5
Butler several feet behind one of their guys was looking at him and talking as he back peddled on D. The ref who called it was behind Butler so not sure how he observed all this, and didn't know players are not allowed to talk i hate Tony Crisp
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Post by lou on Dec 8, 2018 20:46:58 GMT -5
URI coach:
“They’re a well-coached team. That offense is something else."
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Post by HC1843 on Dec 8, 2018 21:47:18 GMT -5
Why do you only come out to play when we lose? Please respond if someone currently has a gun to your head forcing you to read anything so everyone can alert the authorities!!! Go Cross Go! How about an honest answer, rather than a deflection? I don't remember your insights when we won. I ask because I care. Cheers.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Dec 8, 2018 22:14:13 GMT -5
Something positive is nice to hear. In spite of the loss, I still like this team. They're very entertaining and will do quite well in the PL this year.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Dec 9, 2018 7:38:15 GMT -5
Just 2,312 in attendance with many of them being Rhody fans? I thought Holy Cross was Worcester's team and all the Facebook tweet views was going to produce a big crowd? Usually like your basketball posts, but this one is coming off a wee bit smug to me. In the grand scheme of things, URI and Holy Cross are in the same club - that club of about 330 or so schools that won't be winning the national championship this century.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Dec 9, 2018 7:50:07 GMT -5
Very disappointed with the result of the game yesterday. Extremely difficult to win without JF and JG for most of the game, but no excuses - it was a lost opportunity.
Grandi played 22 minutes yesterday. Even with this game, he is averaging 34.5 minutes a game for the season. I'm wondering if he was sick, and tried to play through it? He didn't seem to have his usual energy when he was in there.
I do give credit to URI: it seemed like they really considered this an important game, and played with a lot of energy. Shooting so well at the line was a key for sure.
Loved CLS's spurt in the second half, but the question is - will this be an annual thing, or can he provide this a little more often? Would be a nice option off the bench if he can get it going more consistently.
I suppose if someone like JF had to get hurt, now was as good a time as energy. At least it's almost 2 weeks till the next game.
Time again to move forward.
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Post by sader81 on Dec 9, 2018 8:34:30 GMT -5
From Telegram/Toland Le Sann matched his career high, set against Army in 2017. In that game, he scored 13 straight points to help Holy Cross rally from 56-39 down and win, 85-76. “I was reminded of the game at Army,” Carmody said. “He’s a hard worker, and I probably should have given him more of a chance because I’m trying to expand this bench, but he’s a hard worker, he’s always in there shooting and working hard in practice. This was good to see. I’m happy for him.”
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Post by hc80 on Dec 9, 2018 8:34:45 GMT -5
CLS can certainly shoot the ball. I would wager though that coach is reluctant to give him more time because of the defensive side of the game. He was on the strong side of the zone twice and URI wings just blew by him.
And Yes - disappointed in the overall performance. As we noted after UMass - you cannot allow the other side all those offensive rebounds. It lead to 12 second chance points. To say nothing of the number of free throws awarded to URI. If the opponent rebounds their misses, you are in big trouble.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 9, 2018 10:20:00 GMT -5
HC: 18 assists on 23 FGs (78.3%) URI: 9 assists on 26 FGs (34.6%) Top Ten Teams in D-1 on assist % Composite 66-28 Record and median offensive efficiency= #128 Bottom ten Teams in D-1 on assist % Composite 41-40 Record and median offensive efficiency= #262 It does not fit your narrative, but I think almost all objective observers would see HC's high standing on this one measure as a real positive
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Post by Ignutz on Dec 9, 2018 10:24:55 GMT -5
Very disappointed with the result of the game yesterday. Extremely difficult to win without JF and JG for most of the game, but no excuses - it was a lost opportunity. Grandi played 22 minutes yesterday. Even with this game, he is averaging 34.5 minutes a game for the season. I'm wondering if he was sick, and tried to play through it? He didn't seem to have his usual energy when he was in there. I do give credit to URI: it seemed like they really considered this an important game, and played with a lot of energy. Shooting so well at the line was a key for sure. Loved CLS's spurt in the second half, but the question is - will this be an annual thing, or can he provide this a little more often? Would be a nice option off the bench if he can get it going more consistently. I suppose if someone like JF had to get hurt, now was as good a time as energy. At least it's almost 2 weeks till the next game. Time again to move forward. Having seen two games in person, and all but one of the others on TV, my general impressions: i). We’re 1-3 against teams that appear to have an “athletic” edge over us, and 6-1 against teams where our athleticism is essentially on the same level. ii) We should be on pretty level ground with our remaining opponents. iii) CG is our season-to-date MVP.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 9, 2018 11:40:41 GMT -5
HC: 18 assists on 23 FGs (78.3%) URI: 9 assists on 26 FGs (34.6%) Top Ten Teams in D-1 on assist % Composite 66-28 Record and median offensive efficiency= #128 Bottom ten Teams in D-1 on assist % Composite 41-40 Record and median offensive efficiency= #262 It does not fit your narrative, but I think almost all objective observers would see HC's high standing on this one measure as a real positive That’s nice, but the numbers are very clear that there is no direct correlation between winning and having a high assist %. It’s a cute stat, but pretty meaningless if you arent doing the other things that it takes to win at a high level (defense, rebounding, etc.). Carmody’s teams were in the top 5 in A% every year at Northwestern, but it did absolutely nothing to get them over the hump to compete with the top tier of the league.
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Post by thecrossisback on Dec 9, 2018 12:03:42 GMT -5
Had fun yesterday and the crowd wasn't bad. Lot of RI fans. Was nice to seem the team not give up down 16 and make the game close again. Just was frustrating that Floyd could not play. With him, they might have won because he could have covered the RI guy down low who kept getting to the line. But 6-4 record out of Conference is not bad. On to the next game.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 9, 2018 13:42:15 GMT -5
Top Ten Teams in D-1 on assist % Composite 66-28 Record and median offensive efficiency= #128 Bottom ten Teams in D-1 on assist % Composite 41-40 Record and median offensive efficiency= #262 It does not fit your narrative, but I think almost all objective observers would see HC's high standing on this one measure as a real positive That’s nice, but the numbers are very clear that there is no direct correlation between winning and having a high assist %.
It’s a cute stat, but pretty meaningless if you arent doing the other things that it takes to win at a high level (defense, rebounding, etc.). Carmody’s teams were in the top 5 in A% every year at Northwestern, but it did absolutely nothing to get them over the hump to compete with the top tier of the league. Didn't you research this on your own earlier and determine that there was a correlation? Okay--you want to revisit Northwestern? Compare Coach Carmody's record there to those of his predecessors. We've done it many times. He improved the program in a meaningful way--no denying that.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 9, 2018 14:26:14 GMT -5
That’s nice, but the numbers are very clear that there is no direct correlation between winning and having a high assist %.
It’s a cute stat, but pretty meaningless if you arent doing the other things that it takes to win at a high level (defense, rebounding, etc.). Carmody’s teams were in the top 5 in A% every year at Northwestern, but it did absolutely nothing to get them over the hump to compete with the top tier of the league. Didn't you research this on your own earlier and determine that there was a correlation? Okay--you want to revisit Northwestern? Compare Coach Carmody's record there to those of his predecessors. We've done it many times. He improved the program in a meaningful way--no denying that. Nope. There is actually a negative correlation between winning and A% for Carmody. Previous post on the subject below. Yes, Carmody improved from the very low bar set by his predecessors, but they plateaued and he was never able to compete with he top of the league in a meaningful way. Perhaps it may have been different if his system evolved to also emphasis areas outside of passing and shooting. Something really jumped out at me when looking back at Carmody's tenure at Northwestern -- his teams were in the top 5 in the country in A% every year. While this may seem wonderful on the surface, the reality is that if it had any impact on the team's performance, the data would suggest that it had a negative impact on the team's winning percentage: Assist % | Winning % | 64.9 | 57.6 | 66.1 | 58.8 | 67.7 | 54.8 | 68.6 | 48.3 | 68.8 | 41.4 | 70.3 | 48.4 | 70.5 | 55.2 | 70.7 | 40.6 | 70.7 | 48.3 | 71.5 | 26.7 | 71.6 | 58.8 | 71.6 | 41.9 |
As this data shows, he had three years where his team had an assist % of 71.5 or 71.6, but one of those years was his worst year at NW from a W-L perspective, and the other was 4th worst year. In the two years with the lowest assist %, he had two of his three best years at NW. Here is the correlation between each of the stats that KenPom tracked during Carmody's year's at Northwestern and Northwestern's winning percentage during those years: Stat | Correl. | OR% - Off | .628 | Blk% - Def | .538 | AdjO - Off | .522 | FTR - Off | .511 | eFG% - Off | .477 | AdjTempo | .467 | 3P% - Off | .361 | 3PA% - Off | .313 | FT% - Off | .180 | 2P% - Off | .144 | TO% - Off | -.160 | FTR - Def | -.222 | A% - Def | -.294 | TO% - Def | -.310 | 3PA% - Def | -.336 | 2P% - Def | -.433 | AdjD - Def | -.466 | A% - Off | -.520 | OR% - Def | -.539 | eFG% - Def | -.544 | 3P% - Def | -.625 |
Hmmm … the two stats that have had the highest correlation with winning for Carmody are Offensive Rebounding % and Block % (Def). Perhaps it would have been wise to invest more scholarships in players who can play in the post rather than continue to recruit perimeter player after perimeter play.
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Post by DiMarz on Dec 9, 2018 14:36:25 GMT -5
When Floyd came out of the game one of the medical people came to him. JF pointed to the outside of the left ankle, and the trainer retapped the ankle. When he came out at the beginning of the second half, he made one run at the rim, limped off the floor shaking his head. Good thing there is 12 days off, HC needs the big fella! JG didn’t look good yesterday, I thought he was sick with the limited time. CN looks very confident out there, and Overall the team is still playing very well. URI had their best game of the season. Seemed to me a lot of shots bounced around the rim before going in, and they won the game at the free throw line.. Field goals were basically even...
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Post by timholycross on Dec 9, 2018 19:37:05 GMT -5
When Floyd came out of the game one of the medical people came to him. JF pointed to the outside of the left ankle, and the trainer retapped the ankle. When he came out at the beginning of the second half, he made one run at the rim, limped off the floor shaking his head. Good thing there is 12 days off, HC needs the big fella! JG didn’t look good yesterday, I thought he was sick with the limited time. CN looks very confident out there, and Overall the team is still playing very well. URI had their best game of the season. Seemed to me a lot of shots bounced around the rim before going in, and they won the game at the free throw line.. Field goals were basically even... Don't forget the rebounding. A lot of that was no Floyd, but they have to do better, much better, than that.
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Post by possum on Dec 10, 2018 8:12:38 GMT -5
Don't think JG was sick just had a bad game. His minutes were normal until Carmody gave CLS a shot then he stayed with him and the others that were on the court during the comeback. JG could be tired as he has played a ton of minutes and he doesn't have a body that's conducive to banging around underneath with the big URI guys. He really hasn't shot well the last three games and even though his results in the UMass game were fine he had some good luck as he had a three go in off the backboard and two others bounced high off the rim before going in. Hopefully the break will give him some time to rest and get him back on track as he is vital to any success we are going to have.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Dec 10, 2018 12:51:06 GMT -5
Don't forget the rebounding. A lot of that was no Floyd, but they have to do better, much better, than that. Holy Cross is currently 344th in the country in total rebounding %, tucked in between "winning basketball" cultures like the Citadel and Delaware State. Those looking for correlations may want to check out the rest of the company we're keeping at the bottom.
Fortunately, for the near term at least, Iona and Canisius are almost as bad as HC on the boards.
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Post by sader81 on Dec 11, 2018 19:26:45 GMT -5
For those season ticket holders that received a bad seat in the DCU, check your email. I just received an apology for the mess up, together with an offer to make amends. Nice touch by the department.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 11, 2018 23:25:09 GMT -5
Didn't get one (yet), 81, so I am guessing they think I had a good seat. Outside of sitting directly behind NAD, not so much.
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