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Post by sader81 on Dec 13, 2018 15:22:31 GMT -5
Just saw a tweet suggesting Nate Pine going to Air Force.
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Post by sader81 on Dec 13, 2018 15:23:48 GMT -5
Jennifer Toland @jentandg 5m5 minutes ago According to sources, @goholycross director of athletics Nathan Pine is leaving HC to become director of athletics at the Air Force Academy.@tgsports
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Post by cmo on Dec 13, 2018 15:26:35 GMT -5
Wow.
Because of the DCU bad seat fiasco?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 13, 2018 15:27:15 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Dec 13, 2018 15:29:20 GMT -5
Well that's parlaying minimal success on the playing fields into a better job. Hopefully the infrastructure moves that have occurred while he was here will bear fruit for the next guy or gal.
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Post by alum on Dec 13, 2018 15:34:49 GMT -5
WOW
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 13, 2018 15:36:56 GMT -5
Sad to hear, but I imagine there will be folks who will say it took too long. (other possible comments are listed below after each point) If this happens, I imagine there will be a "national Search" (comment: and we will hear that questioned - not done soon enough, not really "national"). We will want someone who can fundraise (comment: either not needed any more or not doing a good enough job). We want someone who will hire coaches who are winners and will build winning teams at HC (comment: it is taking too long, or they are not experienced enough, or they are too old/young) and who can recruit (comment: no matter who they recruit it will be criticized on many levels). We will also hear names thrown out here on CROSSPORTS who will not apply or would not be seriously in the running - then hear down the road how they would have been a much better pick. Let the "fun" begin.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 13, 2018 15:47:45 GMT -5
Sad to hear, but I imagine there will be folks who will say it took too long. (other possible comments are listed below after each point) If this happens, I imagine there will be a "national Search" (comment: and we will hear that questioned - not done soon enough, not really "national"). We will want someone who can fundraise (comment: either not needed any more or not doing a good enough job). We want someone who will hire coaches who are winners and will build winning teams at HC (comment: it is taking too long, or they are not experienced enough, or they are too old/young) and who can recruit (comment: no matter who they recruit it will be criticized on many levels). We will also hear names thrown out here on CROSSPORTS who will not apply or would not be seriously in the running - then hear down the road how they would have been a much better pick. Let the "fun" begin. You've captured it beautifully. If Nate Pine is, indeed, leaving HC, it will be interesting to watch the second guessing and pretensions to expertise that are such an entertaining part of this board's commentary on any HC job search.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 13, 2018 16:06:07 GMT -5
Sad to hear, but I imagine there will be folks who will say it took too long. (other possible comments are listed below after each point) If this happens, I imagine there will be a "national Search" (comment: and we will hear that questioned - not done soon enough, not really "national"). We will want someone who can fundraise (comment: either not needed any more or not doing a good enough job). We want someone who will hire coaches who are winners and will build winning teams at HC (comment: it is taking too long, or they are not experienced enough, or they are too old/young) and who can recruit (comment: no matter who they recruit it will be criticized on many levels). We will also hear names thrown out here on CROSSPORTS who will not apply or would not be seriously in the running - then hear down the road how they would have been a much better pick. Let the "fun" begin. Do not forget to fire CBC and others, and hire young stars in the making
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Post by alum on Dec 13, 2018 16:10:34 GMT -5
Sad to hear, but I imagine there will be folks who will say it took too long. (other possible comments are listed below after each point) If this happens, I imagine there will be a "national Search" (comment: and we will hear that questioned - not done soon enough, not really "national"). We will want someone who can fundraise (comment: either not needed any more or not doing a good enough job). We want someone who will hire coaches who are winners and will build winning teams at HC (comment: it is taking too long, or they are not experienced enough, or they are too old/young) and who can recruit (comment: no matter who they recruit it will be criticized on many levels). We will also hear names thrown out here on CROSSPORTS who will not apply or would not be seriously in the running - then hear down the road how they would have been a much better pick. Let the "fun" begin. How long until I see the name of a two time Heisman finalist appear on this thread?
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Pine out?
Dec 13, 2018 16:11:08 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by HC92 on Dec 13, 2018 16:11:08 GMT -5
WORCESTER, Mass. – College of the Holy Cross Director of Athletics Nathan Pine has been named the Director of Athletics at the United States Air Force Academy and will step down from his position at Holy Cross in January, announced President Rev. Philip L. Boroughs, S.J. Thursday afternoon. Pine, who was named the College’s eighth Director of Athletics in December 2013, has revitalized Holy Cross Athletics in his five years at the helm, and was integral to the construction and renovation of the $95-million Luth Athletic Complex capital project while raising the competitive profile of Crusader Athletics. “Under Nathan's leadership, our athletics program has been elevated to win multiple Patriot League championships and attract new coaching talent that has continued to raise our game,” said Fr. Boroughs. “Most importantly, Nathan accomplished this while maintaining a strong commitment to academics and the mission of the College. During his tenure, the College also saw the transformation of the Hart Center at the Luth Athletic Complex, which has put Holy Cross athletics on a path to be successful years into the future. We are grateful for Nathan's commitment to the College and our mission, and we wish him the very best as he moves on to the next chapter in his professional life.” During his time in Worcester, Pine has built the athletics program into a leader throughout the region and within the Patriot League, earning the highest President’s Cup finish in the Crusaders’ history in two of the last three years. Holy Cross has also seen an unprecedented growth in fundraising over the past five years, receiving two of the largest gifts in College history for athletics projects. The Crusader Athletics Fund topped $2 million in contributions to the Crusader Athletics Fund for the first time in history in 2016-17, topping the mark again in 2017-18. Pine has also championed the priority of academics at Holy Cross, with student-athletes achieving at the very highest levels of Division I during his tenure. In addition to being a consistent national leader in both Academic Progress Rate and Graduation Success Rate, Holy Cross has seen its student-athletes post an average term GPA of 3.10 or higher in each of the last 13 semesters, highlighted by a record 3.26 average GPA in Spring 2018. “It has been an honor to be the Director of Athletics at Holy Cross and to be a part of this Crusader family and Worcester community for the last five years,” said Pine. “I am proud of all that we have built together and how athletics on Mount St. James has returned to the tradition that fits its great history. I know the future of Holy Cross is bright and I look forward to watching its progress.”
Pine is active at the national level and has represented Holy Cross and the Patriot League on the NCAA Division I FCS Athletic Director's Association Executive Committee. He has worked at the league level to maximize the student-athlete experience and generate additional revenue and exposure for the College and the league. He has orchestrated broader regional and national exposure for Holy Cross through television and marketing efforts while also driving significant improvements in branding and alumni outreach. Senior associate athletics director and chief operating officer Brendan Sullivan has been named the interim director of athletics. Sullivan joined Holy Cross in 2015 as associate director of athletics for finance and business and chief financial officer following a six-year stint as Director of Athletics at Stonehill College in Easton, Mass. There will be a national search for Holy Cross’ next director of athletics.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 13, 2018 16:16:43 GMT -5
Great day for Holy Cross!
Here's to hoping the search for the next AD produces someone fully committed to truly improving HOLY CROSS, and not, say, an egomaniac more concerned with his/her own personal brand than the College, for example.
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Post by Tom on Dec 13, 2018 16:17:40 GMT -5
The destination surprises me. Supposedly his big claim to fame was fundraising. I would think that would be a lesser deal at a service academy. If they want a major project like Luth, it isn't done by private donations, they just lobby Congress.
Not intended as a slam on Nate Pine, but the big swing from part time head coaches to almost all full team head coaches was a Dick Regan thing
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Post by Ray on Dec 13, 2018 16:18:24 GMT -5
Fascinating development. Good for Nate. I liked him more than most people on this board. And I suspect history will be kind to his tenure as we get more distance from it.
The upcoming search is sure to be a spectacle.
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Post by Ray on Dec 13, 2018 16:19:08 GMT -5
Great day for Holy Cross! Here's to hoping the search for the next AD produces someone fully committed to truly improving HOLY CROSS, and not, say, an egomaniac more concerned with his/her own personal brand than the College, for example. The best part of this news is that you get to put the axe down.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Dec 13, 2018 16:24:19 GMT -5
Not intended as a slam on Nate Pine, but the big swing from part time head coaches to almost all full team head coaches was a Dick Regan thing Agnostic on Pine, but also worth noting that he was given a lot of money to work with here. Regan wasn't - he may not have made good use of extra financial resources if he had had them, but in terms of budgets, one had an apple and the other had an orange.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 13, 2018 16:31:46 GMT -5
Whether it was Pine or the money or both; the athletic department is more of a 21st century endeavor than it was when he arrived.
I just hope the new person tells the powers-that-be something along these lines: focus on a quarter (or a third) of the sports you offer; seriously try to succeed at those; and don't worry about finishing last in the rest of them (or better still, drop a few of them to club). Nothing else works for a school of 2,900 in Division 1.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 13, 2018 16:33:26 GMT -5
Great day for Holy Cross! Here's to hoping the search for the next AD produces someone fully committed to truly improving HOLY CROSS, and not, say, an egomaniac more concerned with his/her own personal brand than the College, for example. I am glad to say we have never had an AD who fit that description in my lifetime and I doubt they will start now. There is some tough that any AD's tenure has a set lifespan and it s good to move on after 5-8 years. In that time ideas have been tied, contacts mapped and there is a desire on the part of many ADs to start fresh. I can also a that Nate Pine's reputation among college athletic administrators is very good to excellent. He had a host of professionals who appreciated his work (but did not have time to post o CROSSPORTS).
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Post by Tom on Dec 13, 2018 16:34:31 GMT -5
Not intended as a slam on Nate Pine, but the big swing from part time head coaches to almost all full team head coaches was a Dick Regan thing Agnostic on Pine, but also worth noting that he was given a lot of money to work with here. Regan wasn't - he may not have made good use of extra financial resources if he had had them, but in terms of budgets, one had an apple and the other had an orange. Just clarifying an earlier post saying that No comment on resources or overall job performance, I was simply pointing out that Regan was the one who replaced most of the part time head coaches with full timers. ----------------------- Semi off topic, I assume Brendan Sullivan's days are numbered as well. It's tough to go from head guy, even interim, back to Senior Associate.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 13, 2018 16:36:25 GMT -5
I hope we can all be happy with the process and the AD selection itself. It can be seen as a fresh start for the overall program. In this n beginning, the person will have a solid foundation o which to build. Some current "teams" could become "clubs" (as has been done elsewhere), but I would doubt it.
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Post by thecrossisback on Dec 13, 2018 16:48:41 GMT -5
Pine thanks for your work. Good luck at Air Force.
HC now its your chance, the ball is in your hands. 1. Hire somebody that is all athletics 2. Hire somebody that is more interested in academics and D2 or small D1.
The teams can be good, but the AD can change leagues, schedules, renovations, tickets, hirings.
To be honest, Pine did not win that much.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 13, 2018 16:54:16 GMT -5
Great day for Holy Cross! Here's to hoping the search for the next AD produces someone fully committed to truly improving HOLY CROSS, and not, say, an egomaniac more concerned with his/her own personal brand than the College, for example. Don't tease us: will you be applying for the job?
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 13, 2018 16:56:20 GMT -5
I can also a that Nate Pine's reputation among college athletic administrators is very good to excellent. He had a host of professionals who appreciated his work (but did not have time to post o CROSSPORTS). Interesting straw poll that speaks more to networking than the actual work at HC. If you ran a similar straw poll with the coaches at HC who actually worked with him, they would have told you that they thought he was a schmuck. Oh well, I guess Air Force is lucky to have him! Go Cross Go! I hope we can survive going forward!
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Post by bison137 on Dec 13, 2018 16:58:12 GMT -5
The destination surprises me. Supposedly his big claim to fame was fundraising. I would think that would be a lesser deal at a service academy. If they want a major project like Luth, it isn't done by private donations, they just lobby Congress. I don't know about Air Force, but at Navy and Army much of the athletic budget is controlled by private organizations (NAAA at Navy), who raise money from donations, TV revenue, merchandise, and ticket sales. They pay the salaries of the coaches and the AD, who are actually employees of the NAAA. They also pay for much of the infrastructure. At Army and Navy a big part of the job is fundraising.
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Post by trimster on Dec 13, 2018 17:00:01 GMT -5
Pine thanks for your work. Good luck at Air Force. HC now its your chance, the ball is in your hands. 1. Hire somebody that is all athletics 2. Hire somebody that is more interested in academics and D2 or small D1. The teams can be good, but the AD can change leagues, schedules, renovations, tickets, hirings. To be honest, Pine did not win that much. I think it's fair to say, regardless of who is the AD at Holy Cross, academics will be the focal point and student athletes will do very well in the classroom. As far as the AD changing leagues, history has shown us that is not the case at HC.
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