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Post by CHC8485 on Jul 11, 2016 13:00:27 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 11, 2016 14:07:30 GMT -5
Interesting --seems to me that he is writing off the Crusaders for next season....
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Post by hchoops on Jul 11, 2016 15:03:21 GMT -5
He seems to be rating us as 8th.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 11, 2016 16:32:08 GMT -5
The last 5 road wins were apparent flukes. We'll see,  |
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jul 11, 2016 17:26:01 GMT -5
He seems to be putting a lot of stock in those blowout losses from the regular season. No disrespect to Bucknell, but regardless whether anyone thinks the tournament win was a fluke or not, there was no way they were 25 or 27 points better than us. I agree with a lot of what Phil K. says. I think Lehigh does have to be considered the favorite; Bucknell does have a lot coming back, and BU may very well have the deepest team in the league (although it kinda seems like Joe Jones does best with a depleted roster). I notice Phil does not mention any of our players by name - could be he has spent time selectively reading some of our posts about our players' so-so abilities.  We shall see. |
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Post by CHC8485 on Jul 11, 2016 18:20:14 GMT -5
I actually see the review and preview as fairly balanced. Sure we had a great tournament run but the results over the long term of last season certainly don't merit putting HC in the top 2 or 3. As I read it he has
Lehigh & Bucknell followed by
BU & American
Then kind of everyone else - all of whom seem to have bigger questions to answer than the other 4. Yes, I know, it's college basketball and everyone has questions, but in Phil K's. opinion, the top 4 have fewer big questions.
For us the question is did the tournament run really represent the team turning the corner with Carmody's system or just one of those things. He acknowledges that and actually seems fairly optimistic
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Post by bison137 on Jul 11, 2016 18:44:53 GMT -5
One place where he is way off the mark is his evaluation of Lafayette:
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"What we expected, and it didn’t happen: Lafayette was expected to contend once again, but the Leopards struggled at both ends of the floor and were beaten badly on the glass. The end result was a last-place finish."
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Lafayette tied for 4th and 5th in the 214-15 regular season and graduated Trist, Hinrichs, and Ptsanaski. Only the most rabid of LC fans expected LC to be a contender.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 11, 2016 18:46:32 GMT -5
I actually see the review and preview as fairly balanced. Sure we had a great tournament run but the results over the long term of last season certainly don't merit putting HC in the top 2 or 3. As I read it he has Lehigh & Bucknell followed by BU & American Then kind of everyone else - all of whom seem to have bigger questions to answer than the other 4. Yes, I know, it's college basketball and everyone has questions, but in Phil K's. opinion, the top 4 have fewer big questions. For us the question is did the tournament run really represent the team turning the corner with Carmody's system or just one of those things. He acknowledges that and actually seems fairly optimistic If healthy I think Lehigh and Boston U have to be the clear top two. Bucknell figures to be in a group fighting for 3rd, unless they get a lot out of the incoming frosh. |
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 11, 2016 19:38:02 GMT -5
I assume that means more total wins. After all, winning the PL championship and going to the NCAAs was a pretty good season. While we could obviously win more games overall, you can't beat a championship within a league. I think everyone associated with the program has higher expectations now even if outside experts don't.
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Post by HC92 on Jul 11, 2016 21:27:00 GMT -5
Still can't believe we were 5-13 in PL regular season play and then had that run. A lot of things changed over those few weeks.
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Post by rickii on Jul 12, 2016 13:26:49 GMT -5
AIR, Carmody mentioned same....unavoidable really.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 13, 2016 18:26:16 GMT -5
rick2, yep. CWC said as much afterwards as did Fr. Boroughs and while I did not personally hear Nate Pine also says so, you can figure if your boss and subordinate think one way, you probably do too.
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Post by hc6774 on Jul 17, 2016 9:32:48 GMT -5
I didn’t get a chance to comment sooner… Looking at this again it seems to be a matter of respect within the league. The five game run does not changed the track record of this group of players especially in the eyes of those who have played against them for three years.
Despite respect for the successful career record, Carmody’s league record shouldn't generate the respect that Brennan is accorded in this piece.
The preseason league pole could be interesting. I don’t expect that we will be viewed as a top 4 selection. However teams that we beat in the run may see us differently than those we did not play.
For us to finish in or near the top group we have to win 4 on the road and more than 5 at home. If healthy we may have earned the respect of a strong league tournament contender.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 17, 2016 11:47:10 GMT -5
That is the big question.
Which team are we ? The team that finished 9th or the one that played 5 of the last six games (hard to count Oregon, who would have pummeled any PL team), minus Eric Green, the only key piece missing from that lineup ?
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 17, 2016 11:56:40 GMT -5
I prefer to be optimistic that the finish to the last season was the maturation of the players to the system and the geling of the team that many of us expected to happen much sooner.
Jack Donohue used to say a new coach had an advantage against old opponents because of a new system that opposing coaches hadn't seen. I don't think that's true anymore, if it ever was but I do believe it takes some time for players to "get" a new coach.
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We shall see.
