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Post by efg72 on Jan 24, 2019 20:11:44 GMT -5
If all you want is to bring in is a great recruiter and developer of talent Pitino is available and waiting for the call
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Post by efg72 on Jan 24, 2019 20:15:11 GMT -5
As a team it has been that way for all of our conference play-not about being tired but not physically strong enough to make the cuts and finish around the basket offensively and defensively protecting floyd-while always a presence, he has been a non factor on D for the last 5 games
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Post by hopjim on Jan 24, 2019 20:35:23 GMT -5
If UConn women can play most games with only 5, no reason we cant successfully win with 6+. Not ideal but recruiting and coaching most important factors.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 25, 2019 7:17:16 GMT -5
Wow, 92 members and 850 guests in the last 24 hours.......guess the struggles are good for business here!
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Post by timholycross on Jan 25, 2019 8:11:45 GMT -5
Wow, 92 members and 850 guests in the last 24 hours.......guess the struggles are good for business here! Dave, I've been doing this for several years now: If it's two or three hours after a game and I don't know the score; I first look at how many pages the thread is...it usually is a good indicator. Then I go find the actual score. The longer the thread is, the greater the chance HC lost. Usually plays out that way, sometimes I'm surprised. Human nature, I guess.
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Post by Tom on Jan 25, 2019 9:15:23 GMT -5
I have noticed the lack of energy on the court of late..Last night JF seemed to be a step slow and showed little of that fire he has shown this season..I think many times players fall into a slump, they just don't work as hard as they need to, and don't realize it..Sometimes a good but kickin' opens up their eyes...The team hasn't gotten those back cuts for layups in the PL season, teams are scheming HC well..and HC isn't playing with the snap needed..Mentally tired? I don't know, maybe a bit bored...Time to ratchet up the pace of play and and change up the D a bit, that's what I would do if I was coach....(and hope CN gets healthy quickly, he is missed greatly!!) I will add into my original post that if we assume we only have 6 guys capable of playing meaningful minutes, are those six being sufficiently challenged in practice to improve? FWIW, I am harping on our current lack of depth, not the myriad of reasons that brought us to that position
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Post by gks on Jan 25, 2019 10:19:48 GMT -5
These are D1 scholarship athletes. It is their responsibility to be in outstanding shape for a long, grueling college season. Stop making excuses for them. They have just got to play better, Period.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 25, 2019 10:21:51 GMT -5
...no buts about it. Kick butt and beat Navy!
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Post by Tom on Jan 25, 2019 13:03:16 GMT -5
These are D1 scholarship athletes. It is their responsibility to be in outstanding shape for a long, grueling college season. Stop making excuses for them. They have just got to play better, Period. I made no comment about being in outstanding shape. In fact, I said the guys don't look gassed a the end of games. I brought up as discussion points potential of mental fatigue as a cumulative effect of incredibly short rotation and also having only 6 guys being game ready, that the starters might not be getting pushed in practice
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Post by gks on Jan 25, 2019 13:09:27 GMT -5
These are D1 scholarship athletes. It is their responsibility to be in outstanding shape for a long, grueling college season. Stop making excuses for them. They have just got to play better, Period. I made no comment about being in outstanding shape. In fact, I said the guys don't look gassed a the end of games. I brought up as discussion points potential of mental fatigue as a cumulative effect of incredibly short rotation and also having only 6 guys being game ready, that the starters might not be getting pushed in practice IMO mental conditioning just as if not more important than physical conditioning. It's all the same. No more excuses for the entire program. Players, coaches, etc.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 25, 2019 13:18:31 GMT -5
Look at the two Navy games last season to see the impact of mental fatigue (after players departed from the team). As the second game showed IMO, it was not physical.
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Post by gks on Jan 25, 2019 13:24:32 GMT -5
There's always an excuse for this team...long bus rides, academics, players getting thrown off the team. This happens at almost every college in America. How about they just need to play better? Put distractions aside and go out and earn your scholarship.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 25, 2019 13:59:37 GMT -5
There are also people who see every factor discussed as an "excuse." Do you ever get tired of people who try to "excuse" every win by tearing down HC's opponent?
Just for the record, scholarships are based in no way on wins and losses. The players who receive them "earn" them by their hard work on a daily basis - games, practice, personal workouts for virtually all of the year.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 25, 2019 14:20:33 GMT -5
And I have not heard any "excuse making" by any of the players.....THAT would matter. I suppose people are going to start scrutinizing facial expressions and body language and draw conclusions from that as well.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 25, 2019 14:37:05 GMT -5
And I have not heard any "excuse making" by any of the players.....THAT would matter. I suppose people are going to start scrutinizing facial expressions and body language and draw conclusions from that as well. Haven't we already had this? That's a way to support the insight that the coach "has lost the team"...….
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Post by Tom on Jan 25, 2019 15:41:27 GMT -5
I made no comment about being in outstanding shape. In fact, I said the guys don't look gassed a the end of games. I brought up as discussion points potential of mental fatigue as a cumulative effect of incredibly short rotation and also having only 6 guys being game ready, that the starters might not be getting pushed in practice IMO mental conditioning just as if not more important than physical conditioning. It's all the same. No more excuses for the entire program. Players, coaches, etc. In the scary way my head works, I think searching for a cause is far different than making excuses. If Joe Schmo kills someone with his car tonight, driving intoxicated could be a cause for the accident, but it certainly is not an excuse. Lack of depth might be a cause for the regression in team play, but no one would say it's an excuse. Making excuses sounds like justifying something bad as being acceptable. No one here is making excuses because no one here (with the possible exceptions of Bison and NotJuan) think the performances the last couple of weeks have been acceptable
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 25, 2019 16:56:12 GMT -5
NAD as usual beat me to the point that neither the players or coaches have offered any excuses for the poor play of late.
I haven’t notice any evidence that the players have given up nor that they aren’t trying as hard as ever. But I missed all of the Loyola loss and the first half of the Army loss. Is that when this all happened?
As I posted in another thread, reasons, excuses, whatever, but we have been playing sub-.500 for years. I will certainly accept that a team has a poor game or two or three. I will accept that injuries occur and have an impact on results. I will accept that players sometimes do stupid things and get kicked off the team and kicked out of school. Stuff happens.
That said, over the course of 4 years, the cumulative results are on the coach. Playing 30+/- games a year, all the intangible breaks are supposed to even out.
I don’t totally buy into the “you are what your record says you are” but there is at least an element of truth to that saying.
Hopefully we beat Navy and start on a nice run of wins to obviate all of this.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 25, 2019 17:00:02 GMT -5
If Carmody is unable to have better than a .500 record in the PL after four seasons, I see no reason why he should be retained as head coach. After four seasons, Milan Brown had two PL seasons where he was better than .500. In fact, for his career at HC, his league record was better than .500.
It's scary to think we were in better hands with Milan, but I'm beginning to think that.
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Post by rickii on Jan 25, 2019 17:38:58 GMT -5
You can get away with a 6-7 man rotation in HS hoop (32 minutes and obviously, not as taxing/physical compared to college play)....you really can't do it, and be consistently successful, in college hoop. Our lack of depth has been our Waterloo. K and Duke have been using a 7 man rotation for nearly 2 decades....
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 25, 2019 18:10:56 GMT -5
You can get away with a 6-7 man rotation in HS hoop (32 minutes and obviously, not as taxing/physical compared to college play)....you really can't do it, and be consistently successful, in college hoop. Our lack of depth has been our Waterloo. K and Duke have been using a 7 man rotation for nearly 2 decades.... Yeah, and when one of the 4-5 star players goes down with an injury, he just grabs another one at the end of the bench.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 25, 2019 18:18:09 GMT -5
Ok, since we're all going crazy and such, here's my wild idea for a change: start either Kyle or Ziggy in place of AB, and bring AB off the bench for a zap of energy around the first media TO.
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Post by DiMarz on Jan 25, 2019 19:59:56 GMT -5
Ok, since we're all going crazy and such, here's my wild idea for a change: start either Kyle or Ziggy in place of AB, and bring AB off the bench for a zap of energy around the first media TO. I'd prefer to see the same starting line-up, and have CN come off the bench....I believe the injury to CN has really hurt the teams performance..Maybe one of you stat guys have the time to see what has transpired in his absence compared to the time he was healthy.....
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Post by efg72 on Jan 25, 2019 20:02:31 GMT -5
Ok, since we're all going crazy and such, here's my wild idea for a change: start either Kyle or Ziggy in place of AB, and bring AB off the bench for a zap of energy around the first media TO. Not a wild idea at all- I think it is a much stronger option than we have used since Niego went down and his minutes don’t change that much. The only question I have is how does he adjust initially to the new role. Only adjustment I would offer is when Niego returns we start Niego, Floyd, Faw, Grandison and Green and then bring Butler in followed by Benzan/Ziggy or Copeland
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 26, 2019 5:04:58 GMT -5
I'd certainly rather get CN back real soon. I'm just thinking that they need to get SOMETHING extra outside of the regular 6. I think Kyle might have the best chance to be the guy, if he can get some regular minutes. Starting him might be a way to do it.
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Post by possum on Jan 26, 2019 7:23:55 GMT -5
With all the discussion about the short bench I looked back at the minutes played this year vs last. JF and PB are just about the same. The 4 sophomores minutes are up about 8-10 minutes per game. The increased minutes has not affected their shooting except for MF who is down quite a bit from last year. The other three have better shooting percentages particularly on three's. I then looked at PL games only and the shooting percentages were not really off OOC play. The major difference I found was in the shooting of JG and CG in PL wins vs losses. In the two wins JG shot 58% on twos and 57% on threes while in the losses the percentages dropped to 37/35 which is 5-7 points off his year long stats. CG's are a little different in that the overall percentage in wins vs losses is not that great but in the 4 losses other than Lehigh which was a great game for him CG has shot 24 percent on twos and 25 percent on three's a huge drop from his year long stats.
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