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Post by classof83 on Mar 4, 2019 10:17:42 GMT -5
ACTP,,
Any word on whether BC is making the trip to Easton?
I also assume if HC wins, the team will go directly to Lewisburg for the game Thursday - does that impact his decision?
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 4, 2019 11:14:04 GMT -5
Does the co-championship qualify them for an automatic berth in the N.I.T. if the most likely outcome of Colgate not winning the PLT happens? That is a good question, but I'm going to say not exactly. I think the fact that they are regular season champion and #1 seed by virtue of their sweep of American means that Colgate gets the NIT if they don't win the tournament. I do not think the same can be said about co-champion Bucknell. I don't recall hearing if the NIT guarantee includes ties for first. It might, but I never heard about it Auto NIT bid goes to the team who had the #1 seed in the conference tournament.
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Post by HC92 on Mar 4, 2019 11:41:10 GMT -5
That is a good question, but I'm going to say not exactly. I think the fact that they are regular season champion and #1 seed by virtue of their sweep of American means that Colgate gets the NIT if they don't win the tournament. I do not think the same can be said about co-champion Bucknell. I don't recall hearing if the NIT guarantee includes ties for first. It might, but I never heard about it Auto NIT bid goes to the team who had the #1 seed in the conference tournament. Any other answer would make no sense for the NIT. They’re not going to potentially saddle themselves with 2-3 low major co-conference champions if some lower seed wins the conference tourney.
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Post by sader1970 on Mar 4, 2019 11:48:43 GMT -5
Hey, how come no discussion about Holy Cross getting invited to the CollegeInsider.com tournament like in 2014? I think that is a participatory tournament and we are nothing if not participatory.
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Post by classof83 on Mar 4, 2019 11:54:04 GMT -5
Hey, how come no discussion about Holy Cross getting invited to the CollegeInsider.com tournament like in 2014? I think that is a participatory tournament and we are nothing if not participatory. With no guarantee of a NIT invite if they don't win the PL Tournament I am curious whether Bucknell would accept an invite to a CBI or CIT. Calling Bison 137 - I know you have expressed contempt for those Tournaments in the past.
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Post by possum on Mar 4, 2019 12:03:32 GMT -5
Aha maybe clinching an NIT bid is why Colgate cut down nets.
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Post by Tom on Mar 4, 2019 12:19:03 GMT -5
Aha maybe clinching an NIT bid is why Colgate cut down nets. Why did Lafayette give them a ladder to help cut them down?
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Post by sader1970 on Mar 4, 2019 12:30:51 GMT -5
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Post by efg72 on Mar 4, 2019 19:10:59 GMT -5
Novel idea but to those that played or coached at the higher levels how about a 3- 2 that is like an accordian and goes to a 2-3 as needed, while double teaming the wings and blocks?
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Mar 4, 2019 20:01:27 GMT -5
ACTP,, Any word on whether BC is making the trip to Easton? I also assume if HC wins, the team will go directly to Lewisburg for the game Thursday - does that impact his decision? Carm did make the trip '83, and yes- if they win at Laf, they are staying in PA for Buck Thurs.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 5, 2019 8:58:36 GMT -5
Our expert, Bison, wrote above on this thread that Bucknell would get the NIT bid if it loses the PLT
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Post by Tom on Mar 5, 2019 9:06:18 GMT -5
Our expert, Bison, wrote above on this thread that Bucknell would get the NIT bid if it loses the PLT I believe he was referring to Colgate who is the #1 seed
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 5, 2019 9:19:53 GMT -5
So HC and Colgate will continue playing after the PLT...😜
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Post by lou on Mar 5, 2019 9:44:20 GMT -5
Re our D, from The WaPo
DID YOU KNOW: The disruptive Holy Cross defense has forced opponents to turn the ball over on 22.6 percent of all possessions, the 30th-best rate in the nation. Lafayette has a forced-turnover percentage of only 16.1 percent through 29 games (ranking the Leopards 323rd among Division I teams).
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Post by bison137 on Mar 5, 2019 9:46:45 GMT -5
Auto NIT bid goes to the team who had the #1 seed in the conference tournament. Any other answer would make no sense for the NIT. They’re not going to potentially saddle themselves with 2-3 low major co-conference champions if some lower seed wins the conference tourney. Not necessarily. The women's NIT takes the top seed who doesn't make the NCAA tournament - but doesn't take all co-champs. Different rule than the men, but it doesn't allow multiple teams.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 5, 2019 12:04:48 GMT -5
Re our D, from The WaPo DID YOU KNOW: The disruptive Holy Cross defense has forced opponents to turn the ball over on 22.6 percent of all possessions, the 30th-best rate in the nation. Lafayette has a forced-turnover percentage of only 16.1 percent through 29 games (ranking the Leopards 323rd among Division I teams). HC is 249th in defensive efficiency, 197th in offensive efficency. W/regard to defense, I'd say that means when HC doesn't force turnovers the other teams scores. I was starting to get ill during the AU game when they kept talking about "American tearing HC's first ranked defense apart". All "first ranked" met was HC didn't give up that many points...when you looked at points per possession (and there are less possessions in a HC game), HC is way below average.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 5, 2019 12:30:48 GMT -5
Re our D, from The WaPo DID YOU KNOW: The disruptive Holy Cross defense has forced opponents to turn the ball over on 22.6 percent of all possessions, the 30th-best rate in the nation. Lafayette has a forced-turnover percentage of only 16.1 percent through 29 games (ranking the Leopards 323rd among Division I teams). Yes, we do know. Covered regularly in the "Four Factors" previews, this is maybe a bad thing that looks like a good thing. Why do we get so many turnovers? Over-extended, risk-taking defenders leaving their primary assignments - if they don't cause turnovers, they leave opponents open and take themselves out of rebounding position. To paraphrase Woody Hayes' misgivings about the forward pass, "When you take chances to cause turnovers, three things can happen - and two of them are bad."
Under Dave Paulsen, Bucknell caused very few turnovers during their best seasons
2010-11. 17.1% (295th) 2011-12. 15.8% (332nd 2012-13 13.8% (347th) 2013-14. 13.9% (346th) 2014-15. 14.2% (347th)
Instead they stayed home in their defensive sets and kicked a$$ on the boards. The results? Three 20-win seasons, two trips to the NCAAs, two to the NITs.
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Post by HC92 on Mar 5, 2019 12:46:38 GMT -5
Any other answer would make no sense for the NIT. They’re not going to potentially saddle themselves with 2-3 low major co-conference champions if some lower seed wins the conference tourney. Not necessarily. The women's NIT takes the top seed who doesn't make the NCAA tournament - but doesn't take all co-champs. Different rule than the men, but it doesn't allow multiple teams. You’re answering a different question. The question I was answering was whether co-champs would all qualify for an auto NIT bid. If the question is how they determine which 1 team can get an auto-bid assuming they want 1 from every conference, the way the women do it is sensible.
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Post by purplehaze on Mar 5, 2019 12:56:46 GMT -5
Back to the game - at the risk of over-simplifying things we have a shot if we limit Jaworski and Petrie from the 3 - Jaworski is shooting 49% for the season from deep - very impressive and we absolutely have to guard him after he crosses halfcourt
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