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Post by hc89 on Jul 22, 2016 13:08:54 GMT -5
Does Holy Cross award athletic scholarships for our women's lacrosse team? If so, how many scholarships are awarded each year?
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Post by purplehaze on Jul 22, 2016 13:47:44 GMT -5
yes, we do award athletic aid to women lacrosse athletes. don't know how much but i would imagine it's fairly significant given title ix requirements. as a guess, in view of the size of the squad, would say 5-7 girls receive partial scholarships every year. 'informed' high school coaches should know.
as i understand it now, we are giving partial schollies to girls in many sports as this is the pattern throughout the league and we know that the academies recruit very aggressively.
would be interested if anyone out there has some specific details for HC.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 22, 2016 17:36:52 GMT -5
In 2014-15, HC spent the second lowest amount ($472K) of PL schools on W lacrosse. Almost a million dollars less than Loyola. Of that total, my guess is that HC spent between $200 and $250K on fin aid for women's lacrosse. I would expect that amount to increase in 2016-17. American spent the least.
To be competitive with the rest of the league, HC would need to spend an additional $400-450K on scollies. And even at that level, HC would be spending below BostU, Colgate, and Loyola.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Jul 22, 2016 20:02:11 GMT -5
We give about 8 in total split up with most women receiving 25% or so. There are also some full pays on the roster.
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Post by Tom on Jul 23, 2016 5:53:34 GMT -5
yes, we do award athletic aid to women lacrosse athletes. don't know how much but i would imagine it's fairly significant given title ix requirements. as a guess, in view of the size of the squad, would say 5-7 girls receive partial scholarships every year. 'informed' high school coaches should know. as i understand it now, we are giving partial schollies to girls in many sports as this is the pattern throughout the league and we know that the academies recruit very aggressively. would be interested if anyone out there has some specific details for HC. Gotta balance all those new football schollies. On a semi-related note, does anyone know how girls' hockey scholarships are handled since it's a D-III program?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 26, 2016 7:45:09 GMT -5
Women's hockey, at least when I was there, was technically non-scholarship but many of the student athlete's were receiving pretty generous aid packages (I guess because we have to balance out with the men's program).
If and when we upgrade conferences, the women will follow and their scholarship situation would mirror the men.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 26, 2016 8:57:44 GMT -5
If a woman's ice hockey player receives need-based aid; i.e., financial assistance she would have otherwise received if she were not playing ice hockey, then that aid is not considered merit aid, or a scollie.
I think I am correct in saying (bison or eric would know more) that if a school adds merit aid to need-based aid for a recruited athlete, -- sweetening the pot -- then the total amount is considered merit aid, or a scollie.
When we had the discussion on the old board about FCS scollie caps, it was agreed that if a school combined merit aid and need-based aid for football, that the total aid could not exceed the scollie cap for the sport. E.g., if the limit was 63 full scollies, a school could not award 63 scollies and then award need-based financial to another 10 or 20 players, and bolster roster size above the cap.
HYP, given their generous fin aid, could roster the equivalent of 16 basketball players on full scollie, but this would not violate the NCAA cap on roster size, as the players are receiving need-based aid only.
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Post by alum on Aug 1, 2016 8:40:19 GMT -5
I noticed while looking at the College's Common Data set (for unrelated reasons) that, under the financial aid section, it discloses need based and non need based athletic awards of $3.5 million and $6.1 million respectively. I understand the non need based. That comes to about 100 scholarships. Does anyone know how the "need based" works? Is that money to kids who received partial non need based as well? Is it regular financial aid to recruited non athletic scholarship athletes? Both?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 1, 2016 11:58:20 GMT -5
alum, your scholarship equivalent number is too low. Assuming total of $9.6 million, @ $58,000 per, that would be about 165 scollie equivalents. Football at 60, and M/W basketball at 26, would leave only 14 scollie equivalents for all other sports. To answer your larger question, I believe it is both. ( ?, Bison) If one were to take the example of an athlete who would receive $40,000 in need based aid (if he/she were a non-athlete), but $8,000 of that aid was in the form of a student loan, HC could convert the loan amount to a grant (the $8,000 thus becoming merit aid because of athletics), and the full $40,000 would be entirely a grant. If the athlete was being highly recruited, HC could offer an additional $18,000 in merit aid, the so-called full ride.
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