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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 26, 2019 11:02:35 GMT -5
I guess some people are interested in college basketball outside of Holy Cross. Right. Because the kid is such is such a household name that message boards around the country are discussing him. We're a weird bunch.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 26, 2019 11:03:40 GMT -5
lol Most would not argue with you there.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 26, 2019 11:06:25 GMT -5
I guess some people are interested in college basketball outside of Holy Cross. ...only, it would seem, if it can reflect poorly on Holy Cross. I'm really not sure what you're getting at. The discussion here isn't about Proctor and HC. It's about his futures as a grad student.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 26, 2019 11:13:22 GMT -5
The whole Proctor issue started way back when he decided to go elsewhere. It was used at that time to make the coaches look bad for letting him get away. It continued when he bounced on Iona - again as a "what might have been." Comparing him now to KC and to RJ seems to be a bit more of the same. If it was not, my apologies for my misunderstanding. However, if I never hear about him again (or FCMB's record at MSM), I would not be disappointed.
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Post by Tom on Mar 26, 2019 11:45:21 GMT -5
I brought up RJ because he was a rare example of a low-major kid transferring for one year at a P-6 school and thought Proctor did not fit into that rare category.
RJ, besides being a fine basketball player also had nice timing as UConn lost 3 kids that year (not counting graduating seniors) and was young and needing bodies
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 26, 2019 14:54:04 GMT -5
...needing bodies with high GPAs (if you remember the team's absolutely awful academics).
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 26, 2019 17:02:13 GMT -5
Not saying this to nit pick you specifically RGS becasue others have said the same thing, but this section of the board is called Men's BasketballDiscuss Holy Cross Basketball & College BasketballSo this thread is in the right place. Thanks for pointing that out. The clarification is appreciated. I guess I am just fed up with hearing about Proctor for six or more years now (is that all it has been?). What if he wanted to transfer here for a second major in Biology before applying to Medical School (now he's a brain surgeon😉) would you take his high academics and 19.5 ppg average and put up with him for a year?
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 26, 2019 20:10:00 GMT -5
No, not after he rejected HC and walked away once already. If you are creating a fictional scenario, why not make him a Nobel Prize winner or a Rhodes Scholar while you are at it?
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 26, 2019 21:01:40 GMT -5
No, not after he rejected HC and walked away once already. If you are creating a fictional scenario, why not make him a Nobel Prize winner or a Rhodes Scholar while you are at it? He rejected HC? You sure about that?
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Post by bison137 on Mar 26, 2019 22:40:23 GMT -5
No, not after he rejected HC and walked away once already. I think saying he rejected HC may be a bit strong. At the time, he said he had continued to have a lot of interest in attending HC - even after FCMB had been fired - but he needed a a little time to get to know CBC. After one meeting with him, he was still interested but, as he told it at the time, he was told he had to make a decision one way or the other, and he didn't feel he knew CBC well enough yet to do that. At that point, he was given a release from HC. His feelings at the time: " I’m sure once we would have gotten comfortable I would have been right back at Holy Cross. It’s just like, ‘I can’t just give you 100 percent off of one visit.’ “
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 26, 2019 22:59:08 GMT -5
No, not after he rejected HC and walked away once already. I think saying he rejected HC may be a bit strong. At the time, he said he had continued to have a lot of interest in attending HC - even after FCMB had been fired - but he needed a a little time to get to know CBC. After one meeting with him, he was still interested but, as he told it at the time, he was told he had to make a decision one way or the other, and he didn't feel he knew CBC well enough yet to do that. At that point, he was given a release from HC. His feelings at the time: " I’m sure once we would have gotten comfortable I would have been right back at Holy Cross. It’s just like, ‘I can’t just give you 100 percent off of one visit.’ “
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 26, 2019 23:13:58 GMT -5
I think saying he rejected HC may be a bit strong. At the time, he said he had continued to have a lot of interest in attending HC - even after FCMB had been fired - but he needed a a little time to get to know CBC. After one meeting with him, he was still interested but, as he told it at the time, he was told he had to make a decision one way or the other, and he didn't feel he knew CBC well enough yet to do that. At that point, he was given a release from HC. His feelings at the time: " I’m sure once we would have gotten comfortable I would have been right back at Holy Cross. It’s just like, ‘I can’t just give you 100 percent off of one visit.’ “ Excellent point Bison. A turnstile in front of the head coach office is not always a cure-all. I have a certain admiration for this kid. It takes confidence to stand your ground as a high school senior with a scholarship worth a quarter of a million dollars at stake. In retrospect it might have been better if HCBC said "sure, take your time, we probably aren't going to do better at this late date anyway.". HC could have used that 19.5 ppg this year.
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Post by bison137 on Mar 27, 2019 0:14:15 GMT -5
I disagree. I think that what he accomplished this past season trumps what he did in high school and which schools offered him. Take Cane Broome, for example. Lightly recruited out of high school, committed to Sacred Heart, and then transferred to Cincinnati where he had a productive junior and senior years. I bet Proctor could land at an AAC, A10, or CAA school. All fine conferences and arguably the best of the rest. Still not P-6. Also we are not talking a one and done first round pick here. The market for a single year is somewhat limited. The Broome analogy is a little off in that they got two years, not just one. A school needs to be looking to fill an immediate but short term need. Time will tell, but I will stick to my prediction that Proctor does not wind up at a high major or P-6 team Pat Andree is a one-and-done, whose stock fell this year. Still reportedly being pursued by a lot of P6 conferences: "Lehigh grad transfer Pat Andree tells me he’s heard from Pitt, Boston College, Wake Forest, NC State, Duquesne, Fordham, TCU, Kansas State, Illinois, Rutgers and USC over last week." Sestina, as reported in the other thread, has heard from many P6 conferences. Making official visit to Kentucky this week.
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Post by lou on Mar 27, 2019 6:32:24 GMT -5
No, not after he rejected HC and walked away once already. I think saying he rejected HC may be a bit strong. At the time, he said he had continued to have a lot of interest in attending HC - even after FCMB had been fired - but he needed a a little time to get to know CBC. After one meeting with him, he was still interested but, as he told it at the time, he was told he had to make a decision one way or the other, and he didn't feel he knew CBC well enough yet to do that. At that point, he was given a release from HC. His feelings at the time: " I’m sure once we would have gotten comfortable I would have been right back at Holy Cross. It’s just like, ‘I can’t just give you 100 percent off of one visit.’ “ I remember reading that, I didn't believe it then either
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 27, 2019 6:50:22 GMT -5
Maybe Carmody should have spent more time trying to recruit Proctor. Problem is, he self-admittedly doesn’t like to recruit.
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Post by letsgohc on Mar 27, 2019 6:56:30 GMT -5
Maybe Carmody should have spent more time trying to recruit Proctor. Problem is, he self-admittedly doesn’t like to recruit. Would have been an interesting team with Proctor and Charles. Ad vitam.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 27, 2019 9:08:14 GMT -5
Maybe Carmody should have spent more time trying to recruit Proctor. Problem is, he self-admittedly doesn’t like to recruit. Would have been an interesting team with Proctor and Charles. Ad vitam. Decent chance there would not have been a Charles if Proctor had stayed.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 27, 2019 9:19:03 GMT -5
Decent chance Charles would have had better four year production than Proctor if he had stayed.
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