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Post by Bleed Purple on Mar 28, 2019 20:58:13 GMT -5
Check out You Tube for an ugly video an Uber driver took of a bunch of HC "scholars" trying to get a ride back from a bar......awful representation of HC students Embarrassing for HC. Expulsions in order? Prompted an email to all students this pm. Ugh!!!
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Post by crusader12 on Mar 29, 2019 5:29:33 GMT -5
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Post by crusader12 on Mar 29, 2019 5:40:32 GMT -5
YouTube Video:
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Mar 29, 2019 6:03:17 GMT -5
How is real change at the top going to solve drunken behavior by HC students living off campus? What would you propose that new leaders at HC do about this?
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Post by crusader12 on Mar 29, 2019 6:42:59 GMT -5
How is real change at the top going to solve drunken behavior by HC students living off campus? What would you propose that new leaders at HC do about this? This isn't the sole reason why change is needed at the top but I think many of us alum are sick and tired of constant negative press coming out of this school week after week. It's clear to me that the students have no respect whatsoever for the current administration (not defending them just stating the obvious) see the YouTube video some put out. We need some strong leadership to stop this constant negativity both out of the school and athletics.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Mar 29, 2019 7:32:53 GMT -5
HC has a serious problem with too many students drinking alcohol to excess. The numbers show up in the schools Clery report, and parents have specifically raised the issue with TPTB. The school has programs and initiatives, one of which starts before students even enroll. I believe the college would readily acknowledge they haven't found the answer to this yet.
The college bought and demolished half the houses on Caro, but that only lessened the concentration of drunken parties in a particular neighborhood. The college bought and demolished the house on City View where one football player stabbed another.
In the case of the Uber incident, according to the T&G, the students were identified by other students as seniors, and associated with HC athletics.
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Post by lou on Mar 29, 2019 9:03:23 GMT -5
Black eye for HC? Big Jake is an idiot, and the rest of the obnoxious kids too. Next time I get a ride in Worcester, I want that driver. I would have gone ballistic long before the end of the video
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 29, 2019 9:24:46 GMT -5
While the students shouldn't have reacted that way, the Uber driver was clearly instigating and looking to get some good content for his dashboard camera.
If you're driving an Uber around Worcester at 1:30 AM on the Friday-Saturday of St. Patrick's Day weekend, who do you think you're going to be picking up? People on their way home from the library?
Complaining about driving drunk people home at 1:30 AM is like moving into a house or apartment on Caro or Boyden St and complaining that you live near college kids and and a college. Or moving into a house next to train tracks and complaining that trains are going by. If you don't want to deal with driving drunk people home, turn off your Uber app and go home.
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Post by hcpride on Mar 29, 2019 9:28:24 GMT -5
Is this a misspelling or another new word I don't know (from the Telegram article)?
Holy Cross’ vice president of student affairs and dean of students, Michele C. Murray, emailed a message about the video to the campus community Thursday afternoon.
“As a community, we are dedicated to respectful communication and respecting the rights of all individuals. Ableist and anti-LGBTQ language is deeply harmful and antithetical to our values at Holy Cross."
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 29, 2019 9:54:04 GMT -5
Is this a misspelling or another new word I don't know (from the Telegram article)? Holy Cross’ vice president of student affairs and dean of students, Michele C. Murray, emailed a message about the video to the campus community Thursday afternoon. “As a community, we are dedicated to respectful communication and respecting the rights of all individuals. Ableist and anti-LGBTQ language is deeply harmful and antithetical to our values at Holy Cross." I just assumed it was the new PC/SJW term of the month? It's impossible to keep up with all of them.
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Post by Chu Chu on Mar 29, 2019 10:10:34 GMT -5
Sorry to say, but disgusting behavior like this took place e 50 years ago when I was at HC. The difference is that we did not have Internet video. These people come across as entitled jerks, but it is not a new problem. I have no doubt that the college leadership finds it abhorrent.
"Ableist" is a term sometimes used to describe disrespectful behavior directed at those with disabilities. You're welcome.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Mar 29, 2019 10:20:54 GMT -5
A) Students trashing an Uber driver's car and belongings because of any dispute should not be tolerated. B) Students cursing out an Uber driver, while clearly intoxicated, can probably be reasonably understood, but should not need to be reasonably tolerated. C) An Uber driver surprised, groaning, and complaining about picking up drunk fare from bars at 1:00 AM or later is completely outrageous. You know that you're picking up a young person (info on the Uber app). You know you are picking them up from a bar (info on the Uber app). You know it's late (info on a clock). Yes, they shouldn't be puking and blacked out asleep in your backseat. No, they shouldn't cram 5 people in the car if you're not comfortable driving them. But, you shouldn't accept a fare, drive to the location, and NOT expect some of those things to happen, only to cancel the trip on them, attempt to bill them a cancellation penalty fee, and put up an instigating video as an impartial recounting of the events. D) Some drunken athletes doing #@*&$~!ty things at HC is not a new or novel experience. However, when alcohol is involved, that behavior is not limited to or exclusive of athletes either. It has less to do with what team they play on, and more to do with what type of person they are.
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Post by rf1 on Mar 29, 2019 12:01:06 GMT -5
WPI frats are very grateful for Holy Cross students in Worcester.
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Post by Tom on Mar 29, 2019 12:16:48 GMT -5
While the students shouldn't have reacted that way, the Uber driver was clearly instigating and looking to get some good content for his dashboard camera. In no way excusing the behavior of the students. After getting out and surveying the damage to his vehicle, why did the driver hang out there? If you want the wait for cops to come and show them the vandalism to your vehicle fine. Otherwise hanging around is promoting the escalation of events. It might not be wrong, but certainly isn't as smart as diffusing the situation by simply driving away ------------------------------ On a slight tangent, it is also a negative statement about the student heavy neighborhood that the girl at the end of the video felt the need to take an Uber the 200 yards from Boyden St to Wheeler
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 29, 2019 12:44:51 GMT -5
I have never been a commercial driver, but for whatever reason my instinct always was to treat any paying customer in any business transaction like gold, so I don't think I would have had the same hassle this driver had. Having said that, the students crossed the line and deserve a D in comportment on their final report card.
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Post by JRGNYR on Mar 29, 2019 12:48:18 GMT -5
If you take a look at the comments on YouTube, you'll see people representing themselves from TV stations asking permission to use the video, presumably for an upcoming news story. Expect the negative publicity to continue.
Not condoning the behavior in the least, but this is a problem everywhere and not just at HC.
Hopefully the students involved learn very valuable lessons. 1) don't act like an a**hole. 2) in this day and age, if you're out in public, expect anything you say or do to be recorded. There's no such thing as an expectation of privacy anymore. Consequences of social media and every phone having a camera and microphone. 3) focus on #1.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 29, 2019 13:13:35 GMT -5
Sorry to say, but disgusting behavior like this took place e 50 years ago when I was at HC. The difference is that we did not have Internet video. These people come across as entitled jerks, but it is not a new problem. I have no doubt that the college leadership finds it abhorrent. "Ableist" is a term sometimes used to describe disrespectful behavior directed at those with disabilities. You're welcome. I also remember similar behavior on the part of HC students over 50 years ago. JRGNYR's rule number 1 would have been very good advice back then s well! Time may change, but drunks (especially "entitled" drunks) seem to last forever with their pro behavior. I hope this group is made to pay a price fr what they did. Is there such a thing as "Dawn Patrol" any more?
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Post by JRGNYR on Mar 29, 2019 13:33:18 GMT -5
Sorry to say, but disgusting behavior like this took place e 50 years ago when I was at HC. The difference is that we did not have Internet video. These people come across as entitled jerks, but it is not a new problem. I have no doubt that the college leadership finds it abhorrent. "Ableist" is a term sometimes used to describe disrespectful behavior directed at those with disabilities. You're welcome. I also remember similar behavior on the part of HC students over 50 years ago. JRGNYR's rule number 1 would have been very good advice back then s well! Time may change, but drunks (especially "entitled" drunks) seem to last forever with their pro behavior. I hope this group is made to pay a price fr what they did. Is there such a thing as "Dawn Patrol" any more? It was around 20 years ago too at HC, and many other college campuses. And I'm sure it still takes place. But with camera phones and dash cams and all that other technology available, it's getting recorded a lot more.
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Post by Bleed Purple on Mar 29, 2019 21:23:52 GMT -5
Video no longer available on You Tube. Positive development. What would cause that? HC Public Affairs doing their job getting the video pulled? If so, nice work.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Mar 30, 2019 5:45:21 GMT -5
Video no longer available on You Tube. Positive development. What would cause that? HC Public Affairs doing their job getting the video pulled? If so, nice work. The video was taken down by either: 1.) The Uber driver who posted it. (most likely), or, 2.) The Uber driver who posted it acting on direction from Uber. or, 3.) A student shown in the video complaining to YouTube, and YouTube took it down. HC would have no basis for asking YouTube to take down the video. None of the video was shot on campus, nor does it depict activities on campus. The Uber driver stated he called 911. The Worcester police have no record of such a call. .The video was purportedly recorded on St. Patrick's Day, or more likely the night of Saturday, March 16. The temperature in the wee hours that night was around 30 degrees, and the students, given how they were dressed, must have been using alcohol for warmth. I had a more than passing interest in the video, in that I thought it may have shown 31 Boyden, a property HC surely covets, the Commandment aside.
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Post by lou on Mar 30, 2019 9:15:23 GMT -5
This could have been avoided if Big Jake and his pals went to basketball games. They would have known that Lyft is the official ride sharing company of Holy Cross Athletics
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Post by hchoops on Mar 30, 2019 9:33:38 GMT -5
Behind a paywall Please post
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Post by Tom on Mar 30, 2019 9:45:27 GMT -5
With the video no longer on YouTube, could someone jump start my memory.
The students in the video were crude and obnoxious. I get that. Was something said suggesting they were also anti disabled or LBGTQ people? No matter what we might speculate about the driver, the students were out of line to deal with a person like that. Able bodied or disabled. Straight or LBGTQ. Through one initial viewing, I don't recall anything targeted. A group of kids being jerks - and in some cases vandalizing some guy just doing his job. Unless I missed something, strange language from the school
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Mar 30, 2019 11:43:54 GMT -5
Tom, the recital of vulgarities was so continuous and so unoriginal that I soon tuned it ou. Its possible in the catalogue of epithets that various slurs were uttered only because these happened to be in their schoolyard vocabulary, not that the driver was a member of a particular class (e.g., disabled, gay, etc.)
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Post by lou on Mar 30, 2019 12:02:54 GMT -5
What should the consequences be for these seniors for their horrible behavior? Would depriving them of attendance at their graduation be appropriate or would that be overkill? How about a wink and a nod to assuage the public and protect the school from further scandal. I would like to know how the school handles this disgusting incident rather than it being kept hidden behind a veil of secrecy. LoveHC I would start with how these geniuses got into HC in the first place and survived for four years
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