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Post by sarasota on Jun 21, 2017 2:14:01 GMT -5
how pronounce his last name?
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Post by Xmassader on Jun 21, 2017 6:03:08 GMT -5
Knee-go. See Illinois Sader response to that same question on p. 2 of the thread.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 21, 2017 8:03:47 GMT -5
Connor working hard this summer. That's a wild video--quite an innovative training exercise
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 21, 2017 10:33:46 GMT -5
Pretty innovative, indeed. Gives multitasking a whole new look.
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Post by dadominate on Jun 21, 2017 12:05:08 GMT -5
Connor working hard this summer. That's a wild video--quite an innovative training exercise coming from one who trained elite athletes in such a setting for many years, the trends in these elite performance training centers are always amusing to me. and frankly, complete horse#@*&$~! most of the time! honestly, i think the vast majority of these kinds of techniques are simply there to provide something "new" that impressionable clients believe will give them some separation from their competition. maybe utilizing the balls of various sizes simultaneously will improve hand eye coordination in some way, but will this really help a player handle the single basketball he will only ever be playing with in a game any better? doubtful. these same kinds of techniques are employed with receivers and cornerbacks in football as well. in reality, nutrition is the missing link that most athletes (probably ours at hc, even the pros are really lacking in this regard) where the real gains can be made in performance. but that's not as exciting as novel drills that may actually worsen someone's performance and put them at risk of injury. some might find what my group used to do with the baltimore ravens equally amusing. we used to have them run weight-vested hill sprints during the middle of our humid summers up a former ski slope in the baltimore area, which was over 60 degrees incline in many places. no treadmill (not even drago's in rocky 4!) could mimic this. never to be outdone, ray lewis insisted that we instead use a huge log he found in the woods nearby and carried over (weighing well over 150 lbs with uneven distribution) to strap on his back when running up the hill. he did it with ease and beat most of the receivers and corners up the hill with 1/3 of the weight. i know many people don't like him (i don't blame them), but he was the most intense competitor i have ever seen in any arena of life. in retrospect, i think we did the ravens no favors with these stupid exercises as they ultimately were shown to make elite athletes slower (and more likely increase risk of injury) as their bodies adapted to the increased load and performed worse than they did at baseline without the load. at the end of the day, just get strong (physically and mentally), as big as you can to still handle the performance of your sport, and practice your sport in the way the game is played!
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Post by hchoops on Jun 21, 2017 12:10:41 GMT -5
I have seen the positive ball handling effects of dribbling two balls. I watched our hs varsity players do it for over 15 years in regular season and off season workouts. The dribbling two balls while running is especially effective. I even had my 5th grade CYO team do it last season. Of course, like any drill, it is only as effective as you do it throughout the year.
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 21, 2017 12:27:45 GMT -5
I agree, hoops. However, folks need to remember that it is just one item in a long list of techniques. If it gets the athlete to focus on the point being made...it has worked. (Remember when the instructor had his golfer transfer all of his loose change to his right hand pocket while practicing?)
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Post by dadominate on Jun 21, 2017 12:42:39 GMT -5
I have seen the positive ball handling effects of dribbling two balls. I watched our hs varsity players do it for over 15 years in regular season and off season workouts. The dribbling two balls while running is especially effective. I even had my 5th grade CYO team do it last season. Of course, like any drill, it is only as effective as you do it throughout the year. i do think there might be slight benefit in dribbling two basketballs, since these are the basketballs actually used in a game. but were the benefits you noticed primarily from dribbling two balls (unlikely, imo), confidence begotten that dribbling two balls made them better at dribbling one ball (possible, maybe even likely), or just extra time spent on dribbling (period)? tough to say in the absence of a study. what did you think of the "big ball" that was big in the early 90's? my coach, who was up there in years and thought lifting weights was taboo (that's an area we sure did not see eye to eye), was into it for some reason and had us practice shooting fts with it. even more gimmicky in the 90's was the "strength shoe". i confess that i bought and wore those independently. what a joke! now the plyometric exercises they gave you to do in the shoes, on the other hand, can help even height-challenged wb's attain some serious hops. no more strength/training/performance divergence from me. bottom line is that i'm glad niego is training hard and investing in his body and his game. i would hope alongside that kind of stuff to sell performance training packages, that he is doing more of this kind of training involving our own karl charles. not as sexy, but most of these are drills that will really help a player's game. personally not so sure about the turf dribbling, but hey, the core performance stuff really doesn't sell in a sea of "experts" doing wacky modalities. entertaining watching karl putting in the work nevertheless.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 21, 2017 13:10:36 GMT -5
Very interesting videos--are they recent? Of course, the "University of Holy Cross" is a bit annoying.....
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 21, 2017 14:12:27 GMT -5
Might a lot of annoyance be spared by making HC into the University that so many already think it is? After all, if Montclair State in NJ can do it, I am sure Holy Cross can as well.
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Post by hchoops on Jun 21, 2017 14:39:34 GMT -5
I have seen the positive ball handling effects of dribbling two balls. I watched our hs varsity players do it for over 15 years in regular season and off season workouts. The dribbling two balls while running is especially effective. I even had my 5th grade CYO team do it last season. Of course, like any drill, it is only as effective as you do it throughout the year. i do think there might be slight benefit in dribbling two basketballs, since these are the basketballs actually used in a game. but were the benefits you noticed primarily from dribbling two balls (unlikely, imo), confidence begotten that dribbling two balls made them better at dribbling one ball (possible, maybe even likely), or just extra time spent on dribbling (period)? tough to say in the absence of a study. what did you think of the "big ball" that was big in the early 90's? my coach, who was up there in years and thought lifting weights was taboo (that's an area we sure did not see eye to eye), was into it for some reason and had us practice shooting fts with it. even more gimmicky in the 90's was the "strength shoe". i confess that i bought and wore those independently. what a joke! now the plyometric exercises they gave you to do in the shoes, on the other hand, can help even height-challenged wb's attain some serious hops. no more strength/training/performance divergence from me. bottom line is that i'm glad niego is training hard and investing in his body and his game. i would hope alongside that kind of stuff to sell performance training packages, that he is doing more of this kind of training involving our own karl charles. not as sexy, but most of these are drills that will really help a player's game. personally not so sure about the turf dribbling, but hey, the core performance stuff really doesn't sell in a sea of "experts" doing wacky modalities. entertaining watching karl putting in the work nevertheless. Do not know which of your theories to attribute the success to. Perhaps a combination of all three. We have used weighted balls on occasion for dribbling, passing and layup drills. no oversized balls love the KC videos thanks, Dado
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Post by dadominate on Jun 21, 2017 15:33:06 GMT -5
i do think there might be slight benefit in dribbling two basketballs, since these are the basketballs actually used in a game. but were the benefits you noticed primarily from dribbling two balls (unlikely, imo), confidence begotten that dribbling two balls made them better at dribbling one ball (possible, maybe even likely), or just extra time spent on dribbling (period)? tough to say in the absence of a study. what did you think of the "big ball" that was big in the early 90's? my coach, who was up there in years and thought lifting weights was taboo (that's an area we sure did not see eye to eye), was into it for some reason and had us practice shooting fts with it. even more gimmicky in the 90's was the "strength shoe". i confess that i bought and wore those independently. what a joke! now the plyometric exercises they gave you to do in the shoes, on the other hand, can help even height-challenged wb's attain some serious hops. no more strength/training/performance divergence from me. bottom line is that i'm glad niego is training hard and investing in his body and his game. i would hope alongside that kind of stuff to sell performance training packages, that he is doing more of this kind of training involving our own karl charles. not as sexy, but most of these are drills that will really help a player's game. personally not so sure about the turf dribbling, but hey, the core performance stuff really doesn't sell in a sea of "experts" doing wacky modalities. entertaining watching karl putting in the work nevertheless. Do not know which of your theories to attribute the success to. Perhaps a combination of all three. We have used weighted balls on occasion for dribbling, passing and layup drills. no oversized balls love the KC videos thanks, Dado you're welcome, hoops. one more kc workout video, demonstrating perhaps the most crucial skill (shooting) in our offense: karl is such a talented player. he's already had two good seasons at hc, and i predict a truly great season for him next year culminating in first team all-pl team recognition for the first time since dave dudzinski. back to the topic, niego is another player who, like karl, seems to have a nice combination of good size and basketball skill.
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Post by hchoops on Jun 21, 2017 15:43:07 GMT -5
Sure makes it easy on the rebounder-passer that Karl rarely misses. like it that he practices two point shots as well as threes thanks again, Dado
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