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Post by bison137 on Jun 22, 2019 10:11:32 GMT -5
Multiple sources today - including the Hartford Courant - say that UConn is "on the verge" of joining the Big East for all sports except football. No definitive answer on what happens to football in the articles.
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Post by hchoops on Jun 22, 2019 10:17:12 GMT -5
Geno will die there now Dan Hurley just became a better recruiter
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 22, 2019 10:30:09 GMT -5
If I could spell Hallelujah, I'd type it. Whatever comes out after auto correct will have to suffice.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 22, 2019 10:36:01 GMT -5
We could squeeze one more team into Patriot League football if UConn wants to get real and slink back down to FCS. That would give HC an environment friendly short bus trip but I assume if UConn gets back into the BE they will be full of cider and vinegar and want to conquer the world in FB, too. No surrender, no retreat is a more likely response than let's get real. Plus the CAA would probably have first dibs if their bean counters insisted they demote FB.
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Post by bison137 on Jun 22, 2019 11:04:15 GMT -5
We could squeeze one more team into Patriot League football if UConn wants to get real and slink back down to FCS. That would give HC an environment friendly short bus trip but I assume if UConn gets back into the BE they will be full of cider and vinegar and want to conquer the world in FB, too. No surrender, no retreat is a more likely response than let's get real. Plus the CAA would probably have first dibs if their bean counters insisted they demote FB. With the size of their stadium and the amount of money they spent on it, they are not dropping back to FCS. First preference is to stay in the AAC for football. Failing that, they will presumably look for a league that will take them for football only, but that will be difficult with the MAC and Conference USA both having an even number of teams. However it is possible one of those might take them in to give them a bit of presence in the NYC metro area. Their last option likely is the UMass route of playing as an independent.
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 22, 2019 12:13:32 GMT -5
Per ESPN for basketball. Discuss!😊
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 22, 2019 12:22:19 GMT -5
I think if UMass and UConn had crystal balls and they could see the results of their move to FBS through to today, they would have opted to be a perrenial contender for post season play in FCS instead, but perhaps they look at it as far too soon to judge whether the FBS move has been successful.
All I know is that when I have driven to Amherst for an HC FB game in the fall there have been multiple Orchards along the way to buy a fresh baked apple pie and the foliage has been breathtaking. That beats flying to Houston and boiling in the sun to me, but maybe not to TPTB at UMass and UConn.
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Post by bigfan on Jun 22, 2019 12:44:02 GMT -5
What will they do with their football program?
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 22, 2019 12:48:16 GMT -5
I’ve been promoting this for UConn’s future for a long time - it’s the right move - I think they’ll try and convince the AAC to keep them for football only - otherwise the league gives up any NY-Boston media exposure - if they play hardball they might go to the MAC or independent for a couple of years and wait for an opportunity
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 22, 2019 12:51:00 GMT -5
Let’s move this to the existing discussion under ‘general’ topics where we have a few posts already today on this development
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Post by gerry on Jun 22, 2019 12:54:35 GMT -5
Seems like football will be stuck in no man's land just like UMass. No way the AAC would keep them as an associate member. The football team lost nearly $9M last year, and that was with the revenues of a conference. One can only imagine what that figure will be in a few years. I don't see how UMass, UConn, Liberty, and New Mexico State can survive at the FBS level as independents. At least ND, BYU, and Army have their own TV deals.
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Post by rf1 on Jun 22, 2019 13:07:30 GMT -5
The AAC will not accept UConn for just football. Its program is an FBS dreg that adds nothing. UConn's membership value was tied to its men's and women's basketball teams. With them gone, there is no way the AAC allows football to stay. The AAC will ask for its $10M exit check and say goodbye.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 22, 2019 14:22:38 GMT -5
I’ve been promoting this for UConn’s future for a long time - it’s the right move - I think they’ll try and convince the AAC to keep them for football only - otherwise the league gives up any NY-Boston media exposure There 's no NY-Boston media exposure needed in the new AAC contract, which moves much of its content to OTT. Whither Temple, which would become the only AAC school east of Ohio.
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 22, 2019 14:22:55 GMT -5
Some on the UConn board are talking about forming a new 'football only' FBS league - it has: UConn, UMass, Army, Liberty (from A-Sun), JMU and Delaware (two fcs schools looking for an FBS opportunity). Other ideas (mine) are for Temple and Navy to bail from the AAC, and 'God forbid', a school like HC with a large enough stadium in place, to join.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 22, 2019 14:32:53 GMT -5
HC has the stadium, UNH has the program.
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Post by joe on Jun 22, 2019 15:18:40 GMT -5
If there is a new lower-tier FBS conference forming in the East, Holy Cross should get itself into the discussion. We have the practice facilities and the stadium size already baked in.
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 22, 2019 15:46:27 GMT -5
That sound we hear in southern New England right now is not thunder but Fr. Brooks rolling over in his grave.
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Post by alum on Jun 22, 2019 16:11:12 GMT -5
How can this be? I read on Crossports that this would never happen🤔
This is good news for New England college hoops fans
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 22, 2019 17:48:53 GMT -5
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jun 22, 2019 17:57:17 GMT -5
Please stop with any references of a "new FBS conference" or HC moving up.
FBS football-only conferences cant just be created out of thin air under existing rules. Of course, rules can be changed.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jun 22, 2019 17:59:13 GMT -5
UConn is going to be stuck playing as an independent. Let's be serious -- they will be thrilled to be back in Big East hoops but the ultimate goal is still an ACC invite. If hoops becomes a national power again as a result of BE membership, the odds of this occurrence increase, even with football stuck in no mans land for the foreseeable future.
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Post by Ray on Jun 22, 2019 18:08:21 GMT -5
A few thoughts:
- FBS football for HC is a pipe dream. Put down the pipes, people. - Despite the white elephant stadium, UConn may just be ready to stop falling into the sunk cost fallacy and drop down to FCS football. The financial realities are stark. - While there is no question that this is a bonanza for UConn hoops, I'm struggling to understand what's in this for the existing Big East schools. Sure, UConn's a nice add competitively and demographically, but they are a long way from negotiating their next TV contract. (That said, I'm sure FOX is happy.) Absent other information, I'm assuming that the BE put the screws to UConn a bit in terms of revenue sharing on the current TV deal. They likely got less than a 1/13th share of that, and I wonder if they're taking a haircut on sharing of NCAA tourney revenues at least for a few years as well.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 22, 2019 18:14:43 GMT -5
I agree with Ray about HC moving up to FBS being a pipe dream. That would mean adding 25 football scollies, and probably an additional 25 scollies for the women because of Title IX. Not happening.
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Post by rf1 on Jun 22, 2019 18:30:36 GMT -5
UConn is going to be stuck playing as an independent. Let's be serious -- they will be thrilled to be back in Big East hoops but the ultimate goal is still an ACC invite. If hoops becomes a national power again as a result of BE membership, the odds of this occurrence increase, even with football stuck in no mans land for the foreseeable future.
UConn football will wallow as an independent in the wilderness for years. The program will further decline and fans will desert it. It will be far less attractive than it had been when P5 leagues last took a pass on the school. The decision to move nearly all its sports to the Big East is confirmation that UConn administrators have given up any hope for a P5 invite.
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Post by rf1 on Jun 22, 2019 18:36:35 GMT -5
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