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Post by longsuffering on Nov 1, 2021 16:58:24 GMT -5
Picking a nit, J Mac transfered from St Mike's not UNH... Somewhere up in the frozen tundra anyway.
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Post by rickii on Nov 4, 2021 12:19:11 GMT -5
Most of us are motivated by what we think is best for HC. Obviously Grandison & other transferees made their decisions based on what they perceived to be in their best interests. They chose what they believed was best for them, not what was best for HC. Why the criticism? Most would gladly welcome a high caliber student athlete who transferred to HC from another school. Never read of any concerns raised about the transfer of Gerrale Gates from UNO to HC. There was not even the slightest hint of any concern about his commitment to UNO. There were no high sounding statements about him abandoning his teammates or the school. His commitment to UNO? Well, I guess that was for him to decide. We were happy he transferred to HC. And, HC has been the beneficiary of other transfers without one word of concern for the other college or his ethics uttered, not a peep.It was his decision. Very well articulated!
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 10, 2021 10:11:32 GMT -5
Led all scorers last night (20 points) in a 71-47 win over Jackson St.
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Post by Ignutz on Nov 17, 2021 13:41:11 GMT -5
PLAYER GP GS MPG PPG FGM FGA FG% 3FGM 3FGA 3FG% FTM FTA FT%
Jacob Grandison G 3 3 26.7 15.0 16 28 57.1 5 11 45. 5 8 8 100.0
Do I really need to quote Bob Lobel here?
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Post by hchoops on Nov 17, 2021 13:49:11 GMT -5
Sorry Who is Bob Lobel ?
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Post by Tom on Nov 17, 2021 13:52:53 GMT -5
Grandison isn't somebody the home team traded away. He chose to walk away with no push from out coaching staff.
Better than Lobel, why can't we get guys like this to stay here?
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Post by Tom on Nov 17, 2021 13:57:45 GMT -5
Bob Lobel was the sports anchor for the Boston TV channel 4 - the NBC affiliate in town (switched to CBS for Lobel's last few years) If a former Boston player had a really good game against his former team, Lobel would ask "Why can't we get players like that?"
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Post by hchoops on Nov 17, 2021 13:58:58 GMT -5
Thanks
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 17, 2021 16:22:21 GMT -5
Grandison is listed as a graduate student, attending the College of Business, seeking a master's in management. Same for the high-scoring player from Wesleyan (and the Hun School), who transferred several weeks before Grandison (Phillips Exeter). I have always thought the transfers were related. The Wesleyan player has yet to play a minute for the Illini.
Does Grandison qualify for a sixth year?
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Post by Tom on Nov 18, 2021 8:04:33 GMT -5
Unless he gets hurt (and I hope that doesn't happen) that causes him to miss most of this season, I would think no. Just like everyone else he gets 4 years plus the 2020-21 season that doesn't count towards eligibility.
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Post by dadominate on Nov 18, 2021 8:58:10 GMT -5
one of the many reasons the "recruiting is so much better now" just doesn't seem to hold water.
the grandison, butler, faw, green class was obviously very strong. it's a shame we couldn't hold on to two of them and that that we had to have the others playing out of position much of the time for a variety of reasons.
grandison is a heck of a player. i don't follow the nba, but for those that do, do you think he has any shot at the league?
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 18, 2021 9:29:38 GMT -5
waddaya think, that's he's a Kevin Stacom?
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Post by bringbackcaro on Nov 18, 2021 9:51:27 GMT -5
one of the many reasons the "recruiting is so much better now" just doesn't seem to hold water. the grandison, butler, faw, green class was obviously very strong. it's a shame we couldn't hold on to two of them and that that we had to have the others playing out of position much of the time for a variety of reasons. Using one class, or 4 of ~15 recruits as the sample is extremely logical... How about the Cohen-Stevens-Le Sann class? The Hargis-Verbeek class? How's that water holding now? *Braces for KY and SOV to jump on the pile*
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 18, 2021 10:30:29 GMT -5
You are what your record is, right?
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Post by bringbackcaro on Nov 18, 2021 10:52:46 GMT -5
You are what your record is, right? That's not what you told me about Carmody at Northwestern
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 18, 2021 11:11:29 GMT -5
You are what your record is, right? That's not what you told me about Carmody at Northwestern Denied. That's exactly what I said about Carmody's record at Northwestern, that it was a meaningful improvement for the program, a better record than that of his predecessors. You likely know that is what I said but are choosing to distort it now. Don't do that'; it does not help your case.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Nov 18, 2021 11:32:15 GMT -5
That's not what you told me about Carmody at Northwestern Denied. That's exactly what I said about Carmody's record at Northwestern, that it was a meaningful improvement for the program, a better record than that of his predecessors. You likely know that is what I said but are choosing to distort it now. Don't do that'; it does not help your case. Oh ok, so framing in the context of predecessors is acceptable when looking at records, not just raw numbers. Nelson’s PL record last year was 4 percentage points lower than Carmody’s PL record in his final year (Year 4) (despite playing an extremely unbalanced schedule, but not sure if that fits in your goal posts). So essentially right in line with where his predecessor was when he left. Carmody got 5 years on the job, but now Nelson is on the hot seat in year 2.5. Tough keeping track of the goal posts!
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 18, 2021 11:55:43 GMT -5
Nice try again--let's stop boring the rest of the board with this. Nelson is on the hot seat because the team's record under his leadership has been abysmal. We all hope and pray that it improves significantly this year.
Carmody got 4 years on the job, not 5, and his PL conference record was a poor 28-44 (.389) in the regular season and 6-3 (.667) in the playoffs Nelson's PL conference record is 7-27 (.206) in the regular season and 0-1 in the PL playoffs
The goal posts are set in concrete and have not moved.
Just out of curiosity, if you were in charge, would you have whacked Sean Kearney after season one (5-9 in PL Conference regular season and 1-1 in PL tourney) or would you make the same case you continue to make for BN: prior coach "left the cupboard bare", "left with an unbalanced roster", needs his own players, trying to upgrade athleticism, etc? After all, wasn't Kearney's 5-9, 0-1 PL record better than Coach Nelson's 2-16, 0-1 in his first season? Yes, but Kearney had proven incontrovertibly that he did not know how to be an effective head basketball coach. That's what we are trying to determine about Brett Nelson and so far we've shown the patience of Job.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Nov 18, 2021 12:07:41 GMT -5
Carmody got 4 years on the job, not 5, and his PL conference record was a poor 28-44 (.389) in the regular season and 6-3 (.667) in the playoffs Nelson's PL conference record is 7-27 (.206) in the regular season and 0-1 in the PL playoffs Carmody was going to be the coach in 19-20 (Year 5) if he did not resign in June. He was not let go after 4 years. Just out of curiosity, if you were in charge, would you have whacked Sean Kearney after season one (5-9 in PL Conference regular season and 1-1 in PL tourney) or would you make the same case you continue to make for BN: prior coach "left the cupboard bare", "left with an unbalanced roster", needs his own players, trying to upgrade athleticism, etc? After all, wasn't Kearney's 5-9, 0-1 PL record better than Coach Nelson's 2-16, 0-1 in his first season? Yes, but Kearney had proven incontrovertibly that he did not know how to be an effective head basketball coach. That's what we are trying to determine about Brett Nelson and so far we've shown the patience of Job. I would have whacked Sean Kearney after season one. Not solely because of his record, because I am not a robot and able to look beyond pure W-L numbers. The one major piece that you left out when trying to compare those records was prior year finish and expectations for that year: Kearney -- Prior year: 11-3 PL (2nd place) .... Year 1 Preseason Pick: 1st -- KenPom Experience: 182 -- team returned PL ROY (RJ) + an all-PL player (Keister) Nelson -- Prior year: 6-12 PL (last place) .... Year 1 Preseason Pick: 10th (last place) -- KenPom Experience: 316 --- the team stunk the year before, lost its three best players, and then was expected to stink again.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 18, 2021 13:07:40 GMT -5
Denied. That's exactly what I said about Carmody's record at Northwestern, that it was a meaningful improvement for the program, a better record than that of his predecessors. You likely know that is what I said but are choosing to distort it now. Don't do that'; it does not help your case. Oh ok, so framing in the context of predecessors is acceptable when looking at records, not just raw numbers. Nelson’s PL record last year was 4 percentage points lower than Carmody’s PL record in his final year (Year 4) (despite playing an extremely unbalanced schedule, but not sure if that fits in your goal posts). So essentially right in line with where his predecessor was when he left. Carmody got 5 years on the job, but now Nelson is on the hot seat in year 2.5. Tough keeping track of the goal posts! Be careful not to stand behind them. When they move you may get run over.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 18, 2021 13:18:26 GMT -5
Can we at least agree that Nelson delivered on those expectations in spades?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 18, 2021 14:02:23 GMT -5
Can we at least agree that Nelson delivered on those expectations in spades? Too funny! Of course we also know that the team did not lose its three best players but maybe 3 of its top 4, but we know the poster has a blind spot. As well, he fails to mention that the team added a player who became the highest scoring freshman in HC histpry
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 18, 2021 14:18:48 GMT -5
Fixed it.
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Post by deep Purple on Nov 18, 2021 14:20:15 GMT -5
I'm not sure what the point of this thread is. The kid left when Carmody left. Who cares?
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Post by bringbackcaro on Nov 18, 2021 14:25:11 GMT -5
Can we at least agree that Nelson delivered on those expectations in spades? Certainly! Nelson served that chicken sh*t on the platter exactly as the ingredients were presented to him. There was no chicken salad to be found.
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