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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 14, 2022 7:02:47 GMT -5
It would have to be one heck of a team for Austin Butler not to start and play 30 minutes
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jun 14, 2022 7:10:42 GMT -5
It would have to be one heck of a team for Austin Butler not to start and play 30 minutes Not if Bring Back was the coach. |
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jun 14, 2022 8:44:23 GMT -5
Grandison made it look easy at HC, Butler made it look hard. Both had or are having very productive five season careers. I'm not sure how you concluded that, but from my point of view it's not a matter of how they made it look but, rather, how effective they were on the court. Does the KY Effectiveness Measure include W's & L's? Just curious  |
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Post by hchoops on Jun 14, 2022 8:56:09 GMT -5
I'm not sure how you concluded that, but from my point of view it's not a matter of how they made it look but, rather, how effective they were on the court. Does the KY Effectiveness Measure include W's & L's? Just curious  Does yours ? just curious |
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Post by mm67 on Jun 14, 2022 9:09:24 GMT -5
Grandison is a big-time player, Butler is a fine mid-major, a tough, gritty leader. But he is not big time as no major program offered a transfer. Yes or no?
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jun 14, 2022 9:13:54 GMT -5
Does the KY Effectiveness Measure include W's & L's? Just curious Does yours ? just curious Yes. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 14, 2022 9:36:38 GMT -5
I'm not sure how you concluded that, but from my point of view it's not a matter of how they made it look but, rather, how effective they were on the court. Does the KY Effectiveness Measure include W's & L's? Just curious Sure- but sounds like it is an overriding factor for you , so I guess at center you’d prefer Kevin Hyland (73-39) over Jehyve Floyd (58-73). In baseball I guess you’d bench Ernie Banks at SS in favor of, say, Tony Kubek? In football I guess you’d bench Barry Sanders as the Lions W-L record shows that he was just not very good |
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jun 14, 2022 9:56:30 GMT -5
Does the KY Effectiveness Measure include W's & L's? Just curious Sure- but sounds like it is an overriding factor for you , so I guess at center you’d prefer Kevin Hyland (73-39) over Jehyve Floyd (58-73). In baseball I guess you’d bench Ernie Banks at SS in favor of, say, Tony Kubek? In football I guess you’d bench Barry Sanders as the Lions W-L record shows that he was just not very good Jehyve was on a team that won a PLC, and, while still nowhere near good enough, 58-73 (.442) is in a different class than 36-76 (.321). Instead of the other far flung examples, I would be curious to hear how the KYEM rates the following: -HOFAB -Greg Kinsey -Brian Wilson |
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 14, 2022 11:54:51 GMT -5
"a different class?" Not really, since both were losing records.
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Post by Tom on Jun 14, 2022 13:09:16 GMT -5
"a different class?" Not really, since both were losing records. Clearly a different class. Floyd was class of '19 Butler was class of '21  |
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Post by hchoops on Jul 11, 2022 9:10:12 GMT -5
In the Athletic’s preview of Duke
Jacob Grandison
2021-22: Senior (at Illinois) — 9.6 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 2.3 apg
On to the new faces (already). Start with Grandison, the best player Duke added out of the transfer portal this offseason, and one who should contend to start the season opener. At 6-foot-6 and 210 pounds, Grandison gives Duke some much-needed depth along the wing, especially in the wake of Joey Baker’s late transfer to Michigan. Really, he checks both the boxes for what Scheyer still needed: experience and 3-point shooting.
Grandison turned 24 in April, and he’s the perfect example of a player utilizing his extra COVID-19 year of eligibility. After two years at Holy Cross, he transferred to Illinois and sat out a season in the process. The point is the dude’s played a lot of college basketball already (124 career games) with proven success in a high-major league. That he’s done so largely as a team’s third or fourth scoring option should make his transition even easier, considering he’ll be a role player and not the focal point of Duke’s offense. That said, expect Grandison to be a key part of what the Blue Devils do, namely as a floor-spacer around Roach and the team’s trio of five-star freshmen in the frontcourt. Grandison hit 41 percent of his 3s last season on 4.5 attempts per game, making him a top-150 3-point shooter nationally, per KenPom. The majority of those 3s, per Synergy, came via spot-up scenarios, where Grandison averaged 1.105 PPP, which rates as “excellent” and in the 85th percentile nationally. Just check out his shot chart, and imagine Roach driving and dishing to him in the corners:
Defensively, Grandison posted pretty mundane steal and block rates last season, but he has the length and versatility to switch positions one through four. Plus, with his frame, he has the strength to not get pushed off the ball by smaller guards and wings. Grandison should compete to start with Tyrese Proctor — more on him later — and that situation might be fluid throughout the year, but at worst he’s a super sixth man and veteran
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 11, 2022 9:20:14 GMT -5
That sounds similar to like what RJ brought to UConn. Of course, RJ did graduate from HC so that is indeed one big difference.  |
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 11, 2022 9:27:44 GMT -5
"Shot chart" puts this review in the thorough category. You can be more precise in evaluating a transfer as opposed to a HS recruit. Let's hope our transfers in scored well in these nuanced areas.
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