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Post by trimster on Jul 13, 2019 7:15:57 GMT -5
Grandison did confirm he is leaving on his Instagram. Someone told him that he would be missed, and JG responded with "A Wise Man once told me from tragedy comes opportunity." There are other messages on there from friends that he acknowledges by saying how he will miss them. A lesson he’ll learn when he encounters real tragedy. Also, you don’t self-impose tragedy. Tragedy is thrust upon you. Give me a break. I think many of us have been guilty of using hyperbole at some point. Maybe JG was looking to transfer, perhaps close to home, and recent developments gave him cover to do so. Let's wish the kid well.
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Post by lou on Jul 13, 2019 7:45:18 GMT -5
Too bad. I'll miss watching him play. Terrific athlete. Always seemed to be enjoying the experience, with a smile on his face
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Post by CHC8485 on Jul 13, 2019 7:51:52 GMT -5
I think most of us (myself included) have no clue as to the full story behind his decision to transfer nor the context in which he's using the word tragedy.
I'd consider a coach retiring due to his wife's illness a tragedy. Perhaps the tragedy has nothing to do with the coaching change and has more to do with a personal tragedy. Perhaps the tragedy and opportunity are referring to the person who asked if he was leaving who, as a friend, sees the transfer as a tragedy. You don't know.
Judge not, lest you be judged.
Lots of circumstances lead kids to transfer. I hope this is the right decision for him, wish him well, and hope he succeeds.
At the same time, I also hope Holy Cross succeeds/
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 13, 2019 8:07:32 GMT -5
JG's mother is a clinical professor at UC Berkeley. I do not know whether CAL discounts tuition and fees for children of faculty and staff.
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Post by HC92 on Jul 13, 2019 8:44:05 GMT -5
Good luck to Jacob. My guess is Nelson will have a transfer take that spot who we will all be very happy with. 2020-21 is when we begin to dominate. Some good growth in 2019-20.
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Post by possum on Jul 13, 2019 8:44:41 GMT -5
Transfer is always a risk when recruiting kids from the west coast. Timing was right if JG had any doubts, with a new coach coming in JG would be learning a new system while burning a year of eligibility, by transferring he gets to learn a new system while sitting out then he can hit the ground running the following year with two years of eligibility remaining. We will certainly miss his talent on the floor this year but hopefully another scholarship opening up will accelerate Nelson's ability to turn over the roster with his guys.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 13, 2019 9:09:35 GMT -5
I wish Jacob all the best as he moves on to another school. At Holy Cross, this frees up a lot of minutes and I'll project than Connor Niego will take a lot of them and excel in the spot.
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Post by CHC8485 on Jul 13, 2019 9:38:52 GMT -5
mm67 - comment was far more intended for Joe than you.
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Post by joe on Jul 13, 2019 10:11:52 GMT -5
mm67 - comment was far more intended for Joe than you. Yes I get it but if there is a private tragedy then keep it private, make It know in subtle or clear terms, or keep off social media. Chances are the mid feels that in leaving HC he is bettering himself, which is his right to do. Own it.
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Post by southernsader on Jul 13, 2019 10:16:07 GMT -5
Pretty sure Cal still has one scholarship open. Fair amount of turnover there with Mark Fox taking over as coach.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jul 13, 2019 10:36:12 GMT -5
Onward and upward for the Crusaders. Looking forward to seeing who Nelson fills the scholarship with — hoping it’s someone who can add some toughness to the roster.
If Cal is really going to give a 3-year scholarship to a finesse player who wasn’t even an all-league player in the PL to be eligible for 2 years, they’re in trouble.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 13, 2019 10:48:49 GMT -5
Onward and upward for the Crusaders. Looking forward to seeing who Nelson fills the scholarship with — hoping it’s someone who can add some toughness to the roster. If Cal is really going to give a 3-year scholarship to a finesse player who wasn’t even an all-league player in the PL to be eligible for 2 years, they’re in trouble. Yeah--he was recruited by Bill Carmody, wasn't he...…..
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jul 13, 2019 10:49:38 GMT -5
Raise your hand if you didn't have impeccable, wise old man wisdom at age 20.
I still don't.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jul 13, 2019 11:00:50 GMT -5
Hate to burst some posters bubble, but Grandison is definitely not a Pac 12 scholarship player.
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Post by joe on Jul 13, 2019 11:09:20 GMT -5
To me the discussion to have (in another thread perhaps) relates to team sports, particularly basketball, having gone from a “team-first” mentality to a constant jockeying-for-position “me-first” mentality, from the pros to college to high school to AAU to rec league. A large part of that is a misuse/abuse of social media to play both sides of the “team” vs “me” coin, as well as the over-involvement of parents, mostly fathers.
Rather than players taking any responsibility for poor results, nowadays they transfer. College is about an education first. These kids are being failed in their education by being allowed (virtually encouraged via the NCAA transfer portal) to be me-first people. This is wrong in my opinion and particularly contrary to HC’s “men and women for others” philosophy.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 13, 2019 11:47:48 GMT -5
Hate to burst some posters bubble, but Grandison is definitely not a Pac 12 scholarship player. I guessed he would be if they had a scholarship available but I don't watch enough other leagues to be that confident so I will defer to you. We don't know for sure he is transferring to Cal., but we do know both his parents are intelligent and accomplished. They sent him to Phillips Exeter and he earned acceptance and a scholarship to a great PL school, Holy Cross. Who knows if he would have been accepted at Cal as an incoming freshman academically or as a recruited basketball player or whether he was accepted but like many kids wanted to go away to college, or was accepted but not recruited as a BB player. If Cal is like other elites like Harvard, Yale, Stanford, etc. you may need a "hook" (legitimate not "varsity blues" stuff) to differentiate yourself from the thousands of qualified applicants who don't get in. If he could not get in as a freshman but his Athletic and academic efforts at Holy Cross now give him that "hook" as a recruited walk-on or scholarship transfer, that is impressive shepherding by his parents and the student himself. I don't value Cal over HC for undergraduate but if others do, even for geography reasons, that's not a crime and I wish the whole family the best.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 13, 2019 12:07:18 GMT -5
To me the discussion to have (in another thread perhaps) relates to team sports, particularly basketball, having gone from a “team-first” mentality to a constant jockeying-for-position “me-first” mentality, from the pros to college to high school to AAU to rec league. A large part of that is a misuse/abuse of social media to play both sides of the “team” vs “me” coin, as well as the over-involvement of parents, mostly fathers. Rather than players taking any responsibility for poor results, nowadays they transfer. College is about an education first. These kids are being failed in their education by being allowed (virtually encouraged via the NCAA transfer portal) to be me-first people. This is wrong in my opinion and particularly contrary to HC’s “men and women for others” philosophy. You make a good point. In this case I don't think the player or family misused social media or tried to manipulate anything. But if it's not re-posted by somebody on this board I wouldn't see it. We have seen a hint, quickly corrected, after the CBC retirement how family social media could be a distraction - which is not attractive to me. I hope we will see strong leadership from BN and MB in this area. Obviously they have no legal control over family members or players freedom of speech, but they are both young, presumably social media savvy and have experience in power conferences with a bigger spotlight shining on them, so we should have as strong leadership and direction in this area as is possible.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 13, 2019 13:09:50 GMT -5
There are many schools in Cali besides Cal and on the west coast in general that JG could play at.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 13, 2019 15:06:58 GMT -5
St. Mary's, USF and Santa Clara would be local for him. The WCC is mid major but a cut above the PL with Gonzaga and they all have graduate programs for a five year player.
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Post by cfrivals on Jul 13, 2019 16:50:44 GMT -5
Who were the last two Cali recruits? Dekker Mckeever and David Boyle? not too good results. CA is a long way to MA. I like Eastern Region/Mid West for Recruiting.
JG was a decent player, but was a one way player who would have found a hard time fitting into BN philosophy. I think if healthy, Niego will blossom with the opportunity. Maybe Verbeek with some added weight (which has been reported) can fill the middle.
By the way, how many wings do we have on the roster? plenty!!
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Post by spenser on Jul 13, 2019 18:07:47 GMT -5
The kid is gone. None of us can judge if this was the right decision for him or not. But he’s gone. New era. New Coach. Look to the future. I’m excited for what comes next!
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Post by spenser on Jul 13, 2019 18:07:58 GMT -5
The kid is gone. None of us can judge if this was the right decision for him or not. But he’s gone. New era. New Coach. Look to the future. And he’s better at basketball than I am posting.
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Post by HC92 on Jul 13, 2019 18:28:40 GMT -5
Who were the last two Cali recruits? Dekker Mckeever and David Boyle? not too good results. CA is a long way to MA.!! EO.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 13, 2019 18:32:10 GMT -5
Who were the last two Cali recruits? Dekker Mckeever and David Boyle? not too good results. CA is a long way to MA.!! EO. Eric had a pretty good career
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Post by timholycross on Jul 13, 2019 19:09:54 GMT -5
Who the heck was David Boyle? Have no recollection of the guy. McKeever's career emulated Perkins; injury prevented it from getting off the ground
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