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Post by sader1970 on Oct 2, 2019 16:28:54 GMT -5
Fairfield and Georgetown, just off the top of my head, not headed by Jesuits. Salve Regina headed by a nun and has been for many years (forever, maybe?).
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 2, 2019 19:22:38 GMT -5
Are both Professors Liew and Dustin still teaching at HC? I assume Liew is and Dustin isn't but wonder how they facilitated Dustin's removal without the obligatory lawsuit?
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 2, 2019 19:41:10 GMT -5
No...just questionable academics (according to Church teaching) to which some object..
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 2, 2019 20:16:15 GMT -5
Are both Professors Liew and Dustin still teaching at HC? I assume Liew is and Dustin isn't but wonder how they facilitated Dustin's removal without the obligatory lawsuit? Dustin is still on the faculty, as is Manoussakis, who is a Greek Orthodox priest, and who was suddenly placed on leave last February.
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 2, 2019 22:11:46 GMT -5
Are both Professors Liew and Dustin still teaching at HC? I assume Liew is and Dustin isn't but wonder how they facilitated Dustin's removal without the obligatory lawsuit? Dustin is still on the faculty, as is Manoussakis, who is a Greek Orthodox priest, and who was suddenly placed on leave last February. These Professorships are real sinecures. Nobody resigns in disgrace anymore.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 3, 2019 6:08:44 GMT -5
Dustin is still on the faculty, as is Manoussakis, who is a Greek Orthodox priest, and who was suddenly placed on leave last February. These Professorships are real sinecures. Nobody resigns in disgrace anymore. I do not know why Manoussakis is on leave. I had wondered if it was related somehow to the Orthodox church, and a crisis in that church. See: www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/04/23/state-warns-hellenic-college-holy-cross-about-grave-financial-challenges/f2zGkLL5cQ1Uv5dYbw6YQP/story.htmlAn unsophisticated reader might think college holy cross in a headline refers to the school in Worcester. As for Dustin, as I understand the sequence, the complaining female student acknowledged she had benefited from his attention toward her, beginning in her sophomore year. In the old days, she would have been called a teacher's pet. It was only in the second semester of her senior year when she rebuffed his verbalized romantic overtures and feared this might affect her grade, did she file a complaint. His action was highly inappropriate, but to borrow a metaphor, it apparently never got to first base. IIRC, a recent edition of the college handbook allows a consensual relationship between a member of the faculty (or a member of the athletic department?) and a student, provided the student is not taught by the faculty member; this may extend to the faculty member not being in the department in which the student is majoring. E.g., a professor of Slavic languages could have a consensual relationship with a student majoring in neuroscience. And again IIRC, the faculty member is supposed to notify an academic dean of the relationship. This may be as much to protect the faculty member as the student.
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Post by Tom on Oct 3, 2019 8:08:37 GMT -5
Why not a nun? Good point-- Holy Cross, specifically, should be led by a Catholic priest as there are no Jesuit nuns that I know of I thought I heard somewhere that HC has some rule that the President has to be a Jesuit. That is why Frank Vellaccio never held the title when he filled in for that role some years ago. Rules like that can be changed
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 3, 2019 8:46:40 GMT -5
That was the rule years ago but the rule was changed and now more a tradition.
BTW, error on my part as I just read in Rhode Island Catholic that Salve Regina just got a new, non-nun, woman president.
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 3, 2019 9:34:49 GMT -5
mm67,
I Agree with you on that. In counseling there is a rule prohibiting relations with former clients (some states say for 3 years). When teaching graduate counseling courses, I always suggested that it be a lifetime prohibition. There are so many issues with such relationships (too many to list here) that the negative effects far outweigh any benefit in most cases. That is why, IMHO, a general rule prohibiting such relationships is a good idea.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Oct 3, 2019 10:10:04 GMT -5
Although my preference is for the school to select a female - nun or lay person - I will continue to support HC whatever the choice. Wouldn't the school be better offer selecting the best and most qualified candidate regardless of gender?
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 3, 2019 10:27:18 GMT -5
Of course...if HC can afford that candidate.
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Post by HCFC45 on Oct 6, 2019 6:14:33 GMT -5
Here's another related article from 10/05, as another former student comes forward...
By Scott O’Connell
Telegram & Gazette Staff
Posted Oct 5, 2019 at 6:17 AM
WORCESTER - A former Holy Cross student has come forward to allege a college professor under investigation by the school had exhibited “boundary violating and other inappropriate behavior” toward her more than two decades ago. Jaime McAllister-Grande, a 1999 graduate, said she also reported that harassment to a college administrator, who she recalled only offered to “connect (her) with another student who had recently shared with her similar concerns about that same professor.” McAllister-Grande didn’t identify the professor in question. But details in her statement – including that the faculty member was under investigation for recent misconduct claims brought against him – coincides with an investigation and administrative action against Christopher Dustin, a philosophy professor at the college. If her allegations are true, it would indicate at least one school administrator would have known of claims against Dustin well before he was promoted to a dean of faculty post in 2017. Since that appointment, from which he was demoted last year, other students have accused him of sexual harassment, leading the college to launch an investigation. Two Holy Cross professors, meanwhile, speaking anonymously with the Telegram & Gazette, claimed the administrator to whom McAllister-Grande reported her allegations, Margaret Freije, had led them to believe the college didn’t know of any accusations against Dustin prior to his 2017 appointment. In a statement released Friday afternoon, Holy Cross President Rev. Philip Boroughs urged “anyone with information about possible past instances of misconduct at Holy Cross to come forward without any fear of repercussion.” “I am appreciative that this alumna has made the difficult decision to come forward,” he said. “We will conduct a careful review of this report and use this process to determine if policies from that time were appropriately followed and whether further actions are required.”
McAllister-Grande said the college’s investigators reached out to her earlier this year. “Over the last six months I have been contacted by (Holy Cross’s) Title IX office and lawyers retained by Holy Cross who are investigating more recent claims against this faculty member,” she said. “From the news coverage, these claims sound alarmingly similar to what I experienced. “I am coming forward now because I want every student at Holy Cross to feel they are protected from misconduct. To get there will take several steps; one step must be a broad, independent investigation by an experienced firm, resulting in a transparent, public report of their findings regarding claims of sexual misconduct and the administration’s failure to adequately respond to such claims. Only after we understand the entirety of the situation can we begin to learn how to heal and how to do better.” McAllister-Grande said the professor’s inappropriate behavior toward her occurred during the spring semester of her sophomore year in 1997, when she was a student in his class. According to Holy Cross’s records, that was the year Dustin was promoted to the rank of assistant professor, after joining the college in 1991. He became a full professor in 2009. More recently, an anonymous 2017 alum of the college told Worcester Magazine she was subjected to “romantic advances and explicit sexually-charged comments” from Dustin in 2016, followed by more intimidating behavior the following year. The student said she reported Dustin to the college’s Title IX office, which handles sexual misconduct claims, in April of 2017, a month after he told her he was going to be dean of faculty, according to the magazine’s report. Following an outcry from students and faculty about Dustin and other perceived instances of the college’s insufficient response to sexual offenses reported at the school, the administration earlier this year agreed to review its Title IX policies and procedures, and placed Dustin on administrative leave. In a letter to faculty dated February 10, Freiji, the provost and dean of college, wrote “we all are and should be angry that any student would be harassed by a faculty member,” and that Holy Cross “should be better” and “must do better” on the issue of sexual misconduct.
Scott O’Connell can be reached at Scott.O’Connell@telegram.com. Follow him on Twitter @scottoconnelltg
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Post by moose1970 on Oct 6, 2019 23:19:20 GMT -5
Of course...if HC can afford that candidate HC cannot afford to pass up on the opportunity to hire that candidate!!!
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 7, 2019 2:07:42 GMT -5
These Professorships are real sinecures. Nobody resigns in disgrace anymore. I do not know why Manoussakis is on leave. I had wondered if it was related somehow to the Orthodox church, and a crisis in that church. See: www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/04/23/state-warns-hellenic-college-holy-cross-about-grave-financial-challenges/f2zGkLL5cQ1Uv5dYbw6YQP/story.htmlAn unsophisticated reader might think college holy cross in a headline refers to the school in Worcester. As for Dustin, as I understand the sequence, the complaining female student acknowledged she had benefited from his attention toward her, beginning in her sophomore year. In the old days, she would have been called a teacher's pet. It was only in the second semester of her senior year when she rebuffed his verbalized romantic overtures and feared this might affect her grade, did she file a complaint. His action was highly inappropriate, but to borrow a metaphor, it apparently never got to first base. IIRC, a recent edition of the college handbook allows a consensual relationship between a member of the faculty (or a member of the athletic department?) and a student, provided the student is not taught by the faculty member; this may extend to the faculty member not being in the department in which the student is majoring. E.g., a professor of Slavic languages could have a consensual relationship with a student majoring in neuroscience. And again IIRC, the faculty member is supposed to notify an academic dean of the relationship. This may be as much to protect the faculty member as the student. I think a Neuroscience major dating a Professor of Slavic Languages should have her head examined. Think of the discrepancy in future earning power.
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 7, 2019 2:28:19 GMT -5
Here's another related article from 10/05, as another former student comes forward... By Scott O’Connell Telegram & Gazette Staff Posted Oct 5, 2019 at 6:17 AM WORCESTER - A former Holy Cross student has come forward to allege a college professor under investigation by the school had exhibited “boundary violating and other inappropriate behavior” toward her more than two decades ago. Jaime McAllister-Grande, a 1999 graduate, said she also reported that harassment to a college administrator, who she recalled only offered to “connect (her) with another student who had recently shared with her similar concerns about that same professor.” McAllister-Grande didn’t identify the professor in question. But details in her statement – including that the faculty member was under investigation for recent misconduct claims brought against him – coincides with an investigation and administrative action against Christopher Dustin, a philosophy professor at the college. If her allegations are true, it would indicate at least one school administrator would have known of claims against Dustin well before he was promoted to a dean of faculty post in 2017. Since that appointment, from which he was demoted last year, other students have accused him of sexual harassment, leading the college to launch an investigation. Two Holy Cross professors, meanwhile, speaking anonymously with the Telegram & Gazette, claimed the administrator to whom McAllister-Grande reported her allegations, Margaret Freije, had led them to believe the college didn’t know of any accusations against Dustin prior to his 2017 appointment. In a statement released Friday afternoon, Holy Cross President Rev. Philip Boroughs urged “anyone with information about possible past instances of misconduct at Holy Cross to come forward without any fear of repercussion.” “I am appreciative that this alumna has made the difficult decision to come forward,” he said. “We will conduct a careful review of this report and use this process to determine if policies from that time were appropriately followed and whether further actions are required.” McAllister-Grande said the college’s investigators reached out to her earlier this year. “Over the last six months I have been contacted by (Holy Cross’s) Title IX office and lawyers retained by Holy Cross who are investigating more recent claims against this faculty member,” she said. “From the news coverage, these claims sound alarmingly similar to what I experienced. “I am coming forward now because I want every student at Holy Cross to feel they are protected from misconduct. To get there will take several steps; one step must be a broad, independent investigation by an experienced firm, resulting in a transparent, public report of their findings regarding claims of sexual misconduct and the administration’s failure to adequately respond to such claims. Only after we understand the entirety of the situation can we begin to learn how to heal and how to do better.” McAllister-Grande said the professor’s inappropriate behavior toward her occurred during the spring semester of her sophomore year in 1997, when she was a student in his class. According to Holy Cross’s records, that was the year Dustin was promoted to the rank of assistant professor, after joining the college in 1991. He became a full professor in 2009. More recently, an anonymous 2017 alum of the college told Worcester Magazine she was subjected to “romantic advances and explicit sexually-charged comments” from Dustin in 2016, followed by more intimidating behavior the following year. The student said she reported Dustin to the college’s Title IX office, which handles sexual misconduct claims, in April of 2017, a month after he told her he was going to be dean of faculty, according to the magazine’s report. Following an outcry from students and faculty about Dustin and other perceived instances of the college’s insufficient response to sexual offenses reported at the school, the administration earlier this year agreed to review its Title IX policies and procedures, and placed Dustin on administrative leave. In a letter to faculty dated February 10, Freiji, the provost and dean of college, wrote “we all are and should be angry that any student would be harassed by a faculty member,” and that Holy Cross “should be better” and “must do better” on the issue of sexual misconduct. Scott O’Connell can be reached at Scott.O’Connell@telegram.com. Follow him on Twitter @scottoconnelltg The T&G is covering less and less with fewer and fewer reporters and news stories are getting shorter and shorter. Except when it comes to prurient details about Holy Cross. The Telegram must think human resources complaints only happen on Mt. St. James, but they happen everywhere.
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Post by HCFC45 on Oct 10, 2019 22:37:32 GMT -5
From the Wednesday night Telegram....
Holy Cross dean relinquishes duties while handling of harassment allegation is probed
By Scott O’Connell
Telegram & Gazette Staff
Posted at 7:13 PM
Updated Oct 10, 2019 at 9:48 PM
WORCESTER – A week after an alumna said she told Holy Cross Provost and Dean of the College Margaret Freije about a professor’s harassment 22 years ago, Freije has stepped down from her role as overseer of the college’s deans while the school investigates the allegation, according to a letter from the Holy Cross president, the Rev. Philip L. Boroughs.
In the message, which he sent to the campus on Tuesday, Boroughs said Freije “has asked that someone else be charged with day-to-day oversight of the work of the deans as this investigation proceeds so that the academic work of the college may continue without distraction.”
Boroughs said he has tapped Loren Cass to serve as acting dean of the college, starting Tuesday. Freije will continue to oversee admissions and financial aid, strategic initiatives and other college functions, as well as remain a member of the school’s executive team, his letter states.
The college, meanwhile, will investigate the claims of former student Jaime McAllister-Grande, who alleged last week she had experienced “boundary violating and other inappropriate behavior” from a professor while she was a sophomore in his class in 1997.
McAllister-Grande never identified the faculty member in question, but details in her statement match with the current circumstances of philosophy professor Christopher Dustin, whom the college put on administrative leave earlier this year after receiving reports accusing him of sexual misconduct. Dustin last year was also removed from his position as dean of faculty, which he had been appointed to in 2017.
According to McAllister-Grande, she informed Freije of the unnamed professor’s conduct shortly after it occurred, but was only offered an opportunity to connect with another student who had similar concerns about the faculty member.
“The College will launch a thorough and impartial investigation into this report,” Boroughs said in his letter. “The focus of the investigation will be on what was communicated to Provost Freije, and whether she has acted appropriately and responsibly in light of any claims that may have been communicated to her.”
Boroughs added Freije “has made it very clear to me that she welcomes this investigation.”
McAllister-Grande, however, was not overly encouraged by the president’s message.
“It remains unclear from this statement whether the ‘thorough and impartial investigation’ is into my report only, or is a broader review of any and all reports to Provost Freije,” she said. “Even if it was the latter, starting yet another investigation that only looks at a slice of the picture – my report to Provost Freije – is not enough.”
Others on campus who have alleged they have endured sexual harassment or assault, as well as students and faculty members, she said, have instead been seeking a “global, independent and transparent investigation into sexual misconduct and institutional knowledge of that misconduct to determine not only who did what but also who knew what and when.”
“I think that conducting such an investigation, and sharing the results publicly, is the only way that Holy Cross can learn from its mistakes, gain back trust within its community, and help survivors heal,” McAllister-Grande said.
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 11, 2019 6:23:27 GMT -5
"Boundary violation"? Why don't people who travel on the NY Subway experience that veery day? I do have some difficulty trying to determine what the hack some of these new terms mean.
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Post by lou on Oct 11, 2019 10:30:22 GMT -5
Subway riders do, but they choose to do it. See the difference?
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Post by nhteamer on Oct 11, 2019 10:38:27 GMT -5
I realize that I may be out of the loop. Has Prof. Lieu been accused of any sexual impropriety with a student(s)? No, but he accused JC of same.
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Post by nhteamer on Oct 11, 2019 10:43:02 GMT -5
Next president?
Jane/John Doe, (elite school) MBA
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 11, 2019 11:50:48 GMT -5
lou,
Was the person "forced" to work at HC? I would have thought that was a choice as well. I am afraid I do not see a difference (in your terms).
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Post by beaven302 on Oct 11, 2019 12:07:50 GMT -5
Are there any Catholic universities and colleges headed by non-clergy? (Hint: I know of one highly rated Jesuit U.) After a major financial scandal involving an administrator at St. John's University, the Vincentian president was forced out and replayed by a lay person.
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Post by CHC8485 on Oct 11, 2019 13:02:49 GMT -5
Why not open the process to get the very best? A great manager and inspirational leader -Clergy/non- clergy, woman/ man, etc., a highly respected educator who is in touch with and fully on board with the Catholic mission, history and tradition of the college; will grow the applicant pool; can raise lots of money to grow the endowment and provide more funds for student aid and continued campus improvements; is forward thinking and will lead the college into its rightful preeminent place in the 20th c 21st c. Easy, peasy! LoveHC I believe that when started, the next search for President of HC will open the process and not limit candidates to Jesuits - Fr. B has said on the record on several gatherings I've been to that he likely will be the last Jesuit President of the college. And I believe you have roughly laid out the job description with one notable change above.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 13, 2019 6:36:21 GMT -5
IMO, the two schools that will always have a Jesuit president are BC and Santa Clara. BC absorbed Weston and now has a Jesuit theological school under its purview. Santa Clara has long had a Jesuit School of Theology,
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Post by hcgrad94 on Oct 13, 2019 8:13:29 GMT -5
IMO, the two schools that will always have a Jesuit president are BC and Santa Clara. BC absorbed Weston and now has a Jesuit theological school under its purview. Santa Clara has long had a Jesuit School of Theology, There is no always in these situations.
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