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Post by flutiewasrejected on Sept 5, 2019 20:16:23 GMT -5
Are the sleep therapy sessions, aka the 2019-2020 out of conference schedule, the result of Nate Pine thinking about Colorado Spring while atop Mt. St. James? I do not think there is a single "yee-haw game". Sure, Maryland, ACC, but is there any pull there? We really could not have tried for: Providence College, Boston College, (at) Villanova, (at) Georgetown, (at) Notre Dame), (at) Marquette, Loyola Chicago, (at) UCONN.... My god!!
Hopefully Marcus, RJ and Brett get BC, UCONN and Marquette on the schedule...
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Post by HC92 on Sept 5, 2019 20:24:51 GMT -5
A nice Marquette and UW-Milwaukee trip has to be in our near future with a return game from Milwaukee the following year.
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Post by hchoops on Sept 5, 2019 20:32:20 GMT -5
Are the sleep therapy sessions, aka the 2019-2020 out of conference schedule, the result of Nate Pine thinking about Colorado Spring while atop Mt. St. James? I do not think there is a single "yee-haw game". Sure, Maryland, ACC, but is there any pull there? We really could not have tried for: Providence College, Boston College, (at) Villanova, (at) Georgetown, (at) Notre Dame), (at) Marquette, Loyola Chicago, (at) UCONN.... My god!! Hopefully Marcus, RJ and Brett get BC, UCONN and Marquette on the schedule... Possibly Marcus and Brett would have some influence over their previous schools, but there is no connection that I know of between Danny Hurley and RJ.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 5, 2019 21:11:12 GMT -5
FADNP left Mt. St. James In January 2019. Hard to pin the upcoming schedule on him.
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Post by matunuck on Sept 5, 2019 21:28:53 GMT -5
Are the sleep therapy sessions, aka the 2019-2020 out of conference schedule, the result of Nate Pine thinking about Colorado Spring while atop Mt. St. James? I do not think there is a single "yee-haw game". Sure, Maryland, ACC, but is there any pull there? We really could not have tried for: Providence College, Boston College, (at) Villanova, (at) Georgetown, (at) Notre Dame), (at) Marquette, Loyola Chicago, (at) UCONN.... My god!! Hopefully Marcus, RJ and Brett get BC, UCONN and Marquette on the schedule... Rather be @maryland (Big Ten) then @ many you note.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 5, 2019 21:30:18 GMT -5
FADNP left Mt. St. James In January 2019. Hard to pin the upcoming schedule on him. Some of the series were set under his watch.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Sept 5, 2019 22:10:44 GMT -5
Are the sleep therapy sessions, aka the 2019-2020 out of conference schedule, the result of Nate Pine thinking about Colorado Spring while atop Mt. St. James? I do not think there is a single "yee-haw game". Sure, Maryland, ACC, but is there any pull there? We really could not have tried for: Providence College, Boston College, (at) Villanova, (at) Georgetown, (at) Notre Dame), (at) Marquette, Loyola Chicago, (at) UCONN.... My god!! Hopefully Marcus, RJ and Brett get BC, UCONN and Marquette on the schedule... Last I checked it takes BOTH schools to agree to play, and HC has virtually no leverage in seeking OOC games given it's lack of stature (this is why UM-Boston in on the sked after the staff - past and present - struck out), so look for something else to pin on Nate.
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Post by Tom on Sept 6, 2019 8:07:24 GMT -5
Are the sleep therapy sessions, aka the 2019-2020 out of conference schedule, the result of Nate Pine thinking about Colorado Spring while atop Mt. St. James? I do not think there is a single "yee-haw game". Sure, Maryland, ACC, but is there any pull there? We really could not have tried for: Providence College, Boston College, (at) Villanova, (at) Georgetown, (at) Notre Dame), (at) Marquette, Loyola Chicago, (at) UCONN.... My god!! Hopefully Marcus, RJ and Brett get BC, UCONN and Marquette on the schedule... I thought the coach was more responsible for the hoops schedule than the AD. Not trying to throw stones, but if the OOC schedule is an issue, isn't it more on Coach Carmody - both the timing of his retirement and the other priorities that made him choose to retire. I think it unlikely that coaches Kennedy and Owens were working hard on a schedule while operating in limbo
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Post by timholycross on Sept 6, 2019 8:38:07 GMT -5
...and we are probably going to be terrible, especially early on. Most years I'd say "more ooc challenges", but not this year.
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Post by bison137 on Sept 6, 2019 8:45:57 GMT -5
Are the sleep therapy sessions, aka the 2019-2020 out of conference schedule, the result of Nate Pine thinking about Colorado Spring while atop Mt. St. James? I do not think there is a single "yee-haw game". Sure, Maryland, ACC, but is there any pull there? We really could not have tried for: Providence College, Boston College, (at) Villanova, (at) Georgetown, (at) Notre Dame), (at) Marquette, Loyola Chicago, (at) UCONN.... My god!! Hopefully Marcus, RJ and Brett get BC, UCONN and Marquette on the schedule... I thought the coach was more responsible for the hoops schedule than the AD. Not trying to throw stones, but if the OOC schedule is an issue, isn't it more on Coach Carmody - both the timing of his retirement and the "distractions" that made him choose to retire. I think it unlikely that coaches Kennedy and Owens were working hard on a schedule while operating in limbo Yes, the schedule is mostly the responsibility of the head coach, not the AD. Often there is an assistant who does much of the scheduling work as well - but not the final decisions.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Sept 6, 2019 9:17:20 GMT -5
Are the sleep therapy sessions, aka the 2019-2020 out of conference schedule, the result of Nate Pine thinking about Colorado Spring while atop Mt. St. James? I do not think there is a single "yee-haw game". Sure, Maryland, ACC, but is there any pull there? We really could not have tried for: Providence College, Boston College, (at) Villanova, (at) Georgetown, (at) Notre Dame), (at) Marquette, Loyola Chicago, (at) UCONN.... My god!! Hopefully Marcus, RJ and Brett get BC, UCONN and Marquette on the schedule... Unlike football, ADs don't have a lot to do with the teams on the basketball schedule (aside from things like setting expectations for $$$ from guarantee games, travel/missed class time, etc.). This schedule falls on Carmody and his crew who had been asleep at the wheel.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 6, 2019 9:20:26 GMT -5
Are the sleep therapy sessions, aka the 2019-2020 out of conference schedule, the result of Nate Pine thinking about Colorado Spring while atop Mt. St. James? I do not think there is a single "yee-haw game". Sure, Maryland, ACC, but is there any pull there? We really could not have tried for: Providence College, Boston College, (at) Villanova, (at) Georgetown, (at) Notre Dame), (at) Marquette, Loyola Chicago, (at) UCONN.... My god!! Hopefully Marcus, RJ and Brett get BC, UCONN and Marquette on the schedule... Unlike football, ADs don't have a lot to do with the teams on the basketball schedule (aside from things like setting expectations for $$$ from guarantee games, travel/missed class time, etc.). This schedule falls on Carmody and his crew who had been asleep at the wheel. While I know this to be the case, I also have to imagine the AD is kept apprised with the series that are being set, the buy games, the two-for-one games, etc. And while the coaching staff is responsible for getting this together, you can't tell me the AD wouldn't be able to come over the top and say: "We are done scheduling New Hampshire and Sacred Heart. Go get games with A10, CAA, and Ivy League schools."
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 6, 2019 9:20:51 GMT -5
Caring for a seriously ill spouse while coaching full time now counts as "asleep at the wheel?" Not for most people.
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Post by hchoops on Sept 6, 2019 9:31:05 GMT -5
Caring for a seriously ill spouse while coaching full time now counts as "asleep at the wheel?" Not for most people. Thank you for pointing out this most important fact to explain the recent past.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 6, 2019 9:40:03 GMT -5
Caring for a seriously ill spouse while coaching full time now counts as "asleep at the wheel?" Not for most people. Three weak OOC schedules in four years, so this was a common theme for Carmody, not just in his final season. The assistants, just as much -- if not more than -- the head coach, are responsible for piecing the schedule together.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 6, 2019 9:50:55 GMT -5
Now that Coach Carmody (and most of his staff) have moved on, what possible use is any of this? Will some folks ever stop criticizing him? It does get a bit tedious.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 6, 2019 9:52:26 GMT -5
Now that Coach Carmody (and most of his staff) have moved on, what possible use is any of this? Will some folks ever stop criticizing him? It does get a bit tedious. Because Carmody and his staff were largely responsible for this year's schedule (and partially next year's if there were series scheduled with schools), so it's germane to the conversation.
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Post by bison137 on Sept 6, 2019 9:53:33 GMT -5
Caring for a seriously ill spouse while coaching full time now counts as "asleep at the wheel?" Not for most people. Three weak OOC schedules in four years, so this was a common theme for Carmody, not just in his final season. The assistants, just as much -- if not more than -- the head coach, are responsible for piecing the schedule together. Unless HC is different than most schools, one or more assistants explore openings, talk to other schools about possible contracts and dates, etc. But they are given direction by the head coach, and the head coach makes the final decisions.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Sept 6, 2019 10:31:03 GMT -5
Now that Coach Carmody (and most of his staff) have moved on, what possible use is any of this? Will some folks ever stop criticizing him? It does get a bit tedious. This is a forum for discussion about Holy Cross basketball. The coaching staff responsible for digging a huge hole that Nelson and his staff now have to dig climb out of seems like a topic that is quite relevant when discussing Holy Cross basketball. But maybe that's just me, because this board never goes into any topics relating to people/events that have "moved on" from the current day, like the BC rivalry, HC glory days, Fr. Brooks decision, players who no longer play at HC, or anything along those line.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 6, 2019 10:34:46 GMT -5
It's no wonder we have a sub-optimal schedule if Coach Nelson and his staff are trying to dig their way out of a hole rather than trying to climb out of it.....
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Post by Tom on Sept 6, 2019 11:12:33 GMT -5
Now that Coach Carmody (and most of his staff) have moved on, what possible use is any of this? Will some folks ever stop criticizing him? It does get a bit tedious. That's kind of on me. The thread started blaming Nate Pine for the OOC schedule and I don't think that's fair. I don't mind reasonable criticism, but I try to point out when it's not reasonable, just I don't know when schedules are finalized, but the timing of Coach Carmody's retirement left a good chuck of the summer with no head coach or one who was just getting his feet wet and re-recruiting his own players. There was no one to really get this done in the summer months. Late scrambling leads to things like September announcements and UMass-Boston. I don't consider those facts criticism of Coach Carmody, just another off-shoot of our summer of limbo
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Post by crusader12 on Sept 6, 2019 14:53:24 GMT -5
Not a hoops guy at all but this schedule is terrible, wow!!!!!!
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Post by timholycross on Sept 6, 2019 15:48:24 GMT -5
Not a hoops guy at all but this schedule is terrible, wow!!!!!! ...but so is the team, so I wouldn't get my panties in a bunch over this. Next year or two, sure.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 6, 2019 16:04:18 GMT -5
Nice to know this team is terrible before they do anything...like actually play a game. You must be joking.
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Post by timholycross on Sept 6, 2019 16:53:10 GMT -5
Nice to know this team is terrible before they do anything...like actually play a game. You must be joking. Kind of irrelevant... conference play is where any improvement is going to be proven or disproven.
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