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Post by hchoops on Sept 6, 2019 6:57:41 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on Sept 6, 2019 8:44:12 GMT -5
I'm not sure how up-to-date the article is since the beer garden within the stadium operated all last year and the first game this year. Ticket holders could buy and consume in an outdoor area (with tables and chairs) just beyond the end zone with a view of the game. Seemed to work very well - especially on warm days - and very tightly controlled.
Perhaps this is an expansion of that to a couple of the regular concession stands with drinking permitted throughout most of the stadium and in most of the bleacher/seats - the article was unclear on that.
Fordham plays at SBU on 9/24 and their fans (if not their team) will be in for a treat.
SBU facilities (12K stadium now complete, weight training building complete, indoor practice facility under construction, etc.) and football game-day experience are light years ahead of where they were just five years ago. |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 6, 2019 13:49:55 GMT -5
SBU is acting irresponsibly, IMO. By serving beer? |
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Post by hcpride on Sept 6, 2019 15:15:00 GMT -5
SBU is acting irresponsibly, IMO. By serving beer? I believe they are selling beer in a controlled setting to sober adults. I'd say that is responsible, IMO. |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 6, 2019 15:39:32 GMT -5
SOV - Yup! Pride - Nope! Respectfully. So, by this logic, any sports venue that sells beer is acting irresponsibly. |
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Post by hcpride on Sept 6, 2019 15:42:43 GMT -5
And I am not sure how it compares to permitting (unsupervised?) drinking in a college's tailgating lot.
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Post by hchoops on Sept 6, 2019 15:44:15 GMT -5
I believe they are selling beer in a controlled setting to sober adults. I'd say that is responsible, IMO. And how exactly are you so sure they will all be sober ? |
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Post by hcpride on Sept 6, 2019 15:51:52 GMT -5
I believe they are selling beer in a controlled setting to sober adults. I'd say that is responsible, IMO. And how exactly are you so sure they will all be sober ? Won't be me but I know what you mean...the same way a responsible bartender does. (It is true that in life there are exceptions to all generalities) |
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 6, 2019 18:05:10 GMT -5
They should schedule a friends of “Bill W” meeting at another location in the stadium. I have seen way too many colleagues and classmates who have a problem, and introducing easily accessible substances inside the stadium may present an issue to them.
At this point in life, I do not see the attraction or the need to consume alcohol, especially beer at a live sporting event. You miss too much action by being in a line to use the facilities, as well as risking a DUI for the ride home.
Personally, I hope If beer is sold at either Fitton or Hart, it will be limited and monitored. Too much risk and liability otherwise.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 6, 2019 20:49:46 GMT -5
There should probably be meetings at every pro sporting event and bar/restaurant then.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 6, 2019 22:17:55 GMT -5
Upon entry, issue special colored wristbands to those who indicate they wish to buy beer. The wristbands would allow the wearer to purchase, say, 2 or 3 beers maximum (if you want to set such a limit), and each time a purchase is made the vendor marks off one beer or uses a punch to show that a beer has been purchased. That stops over consumption, if that is a worry. Serve only domestic beers available in half-barrels--none of the craft beers in the pony kegs that have to be changed every 5 minutes. At stadium prices the profit margin would be huge, more than enough to pay for the extra help needed to manage the wristbands. Id's need to be checked only once
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 6, 2019 22:36:40 GMT -5
They probably due have friends of Bill W meetings at the sporting events especially for team staff that have the need. The meetings are just not published to the general public.
Going to a restaurant can be a different event that alcohol consumption is not the focus. I go for the food. 🍝 If you want to have drinks at home, please enjoy. I occasionally also enjoy on a special occasion at home.
I know of friends and classmates that in the past avoided attending HC class reunions, due to each event seemingly revolving around an open bar. This atmosphere was especially true during the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s. An angry drunk is not fun to be around. In the past I have encountered more that I would have like to have seen on campuses across the country.
Enough of my soapbox.
Salud
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Post by hcpride on Sept 7, 2019 4:35:36 GMT -5
/\ I'd agree that alumni tailgates with free-flowing beer and mixed drinks in the parking lot (sometimes prior to, halftime, and even after the game depending on the locale) must be an enormous issue for those with an alcohol problem. I've also seen it lead to generally unsupervised binge drinking amongst the younger set.
At the same time there are those who drink responsibly and wouldn't mind a beer while inside the stadium and viewing the game - obviously the structure, timing, supervision, and cost is far different - so I don't have an issue with that (and it is quite common at professional sporting events). Of course, there can/will be issues with this also.
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Post by td128 on Sept 7, 2019 4:48:35 GMT -5
I agree Crucis. While a cold beverage is very enjoyable at a pre-game tailgate and a post-game gathering, IMO selling it inside a venue presents real issues for some younger fans and 'veteran' fans alike for whom 'one is too many and a hundred is not enough'.
Selling it at Fitton strikes me as far more likely to detract from the pleasure of the day for the crowd as a whole vs adding to the pleasure for selected individuals.
We've all likely seen and heard enough booze talking in our day. All it takes is one to ruin a great environment.
I personally recall having a fan sitting behind me and my then very young family at Yankee Stadium so liquored up that he ruined the first few innings for everybody within his vicinity. When he became so belligerent, we called the usher over and they removed him. Even his friends agreed he deserved to be tossed.
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Post by hcpride on Sept 7, 2019 9:18:47 GMT -5
/\ When I see a drunk fan at the Rangers and Yankees and Giants - especially when it is very early in the game as in your example - I assume it is pre-game pounding in the lot (or up in a local bar if it is the Rangers/Yankees) and not necessarily those high priced beers in the arena. Of course I could be wrong. Or it could be a few beers/mixed drinks prior topped off by a few of the high-priced beers at the game leading to the same result. No doubt obnoxious drunk fans are obnoxious.
I recall arriving at a Manhattan bar quite early-ish one Sunday AM (may have been Marathon Sunday and forget any ideas that no bars open early on a Sunday in NYC) and was initially quite surprised to see about 50 blue-shirted fans were slamming drinks at the bar. A bus pulled up and took them over to the Giants game. They explained their system was to drink at the bar, take a drink for the road, drink at their fan club tailgate, and then stagger into the game. No idea if they drank at the stadium as I assume they were probably hung over by the 3rd quarter. After the game their bus took them back to Penn Station. Seemed like a waste of tickets to me but that was their Sunday ritual.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 7, 2019 21:04:51 GMT -5
The idea that we should nix the idea of alcohol sales at campus sporting events simply due to the fact that a handful of our classmates have battled abuse issues is ridiculous.
I do agree that a "family friendly atmosphere" at our games is essential to the brand. We are indeed in the low-cost sports entertainment business in Central Mass and should not look to alienate this clientele to accommodate a couple of drunks.
Solution: simply enforce behavior policies that are likely already on the books regulating both HC and PL fan policy. End alcohol sales at halftime to encourage responsible driving.
I mentioned a family-friendly atmosphere being an essential component of college sports branding. You know what else is an essential component here? The student section going absolutely @pe$hit behind both Hart Center Center baskets during a tight game against a rival. And whether its booze being snuck in, purchased at a concession stand or binged in the dorms/appartments prior to the game, alcohol has always been behind the rowdy student section that the cameras love.
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Post by CHC8485 on Sept 7, 2019 21:21:53 GMT -5
. Solution: simply enforce behavior policies that are likely already on the books regulating both HC and PL fan policy. End alcohol sales at halftime to encourage responsible driving. So ... give RSIG more power and set 'em loose in the stands??     |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 7, 2019 21:31:00 GMT -5
. Solution: simply enforce behavior policies that are likely already on the books regulating both HC and PL fan policy. End alcohol sales at halftime to encourage responsible driving. So ... give RSIG more power and set 'em loose in the stands?? We have to think outside the box, right?  I like the idea of a biergarten or designated area where alcohol can be purchased / consumed. That way the 8-year olds playing catch in the stands arent tripping over Miller Lite bottles. Plenty of real estate in Fitton -- maybe the endzone seating with the purple tarp would be conducive for this. |
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Post by td128 on Sept 8, 2019 4:32:27 GMT -5
Would seem the fair and appropriate question to ask then in regard to this topic is "does anybody think that there is currently not enough beer/booze on game days at Fitton Field?"
I personally think an enhanced scoreboard/Jumbotron might be next in line in terms of enhancing the game day atmosphere and environment at family/fan friendly Fitton Field.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 8, 2019 9:09:43 GMT -5
Maybe beer profit could help pay for the badly needed Jumbotron
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Post by gks on Sept 8, 2019 14:06:17 GMT -5
Does HC still have the bar on campus in the Hogan Ctr? If they do seems like if it's OK to have a campus bar it should be OK to sell beer at sporting events.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 8, 2019 16:58:08 GMT -5
Holy Cross will announce this week that beer sales will be allowed at Fitton and the Hart.
The decision was made at the trustees meeting this weekend to enter into a strategic partnership with Anheuser-Busch InBev, for sales of Bud and Bud Light. With this decision, the college has decided that the Crusader nickname will be retired and that Iggy the mascot will return as the Bud Light Knight. As part of this agreement to market Crusader Sports Properties, the Bud Light Knight will prominently display the HC shield on its suit of armor and battle flags around the castle in their commercials.
The trustees were going to wait until April 1, 2020 to announce, but decided to move ahead to take advantage of the revenue stream for the upcoming football and basketball seasons. The plans are to open the Iggy, the Bud Light Knight campaign, and to prominently display Iggy with the HC shield in commercials to run during high profile events such as tbd bowl games and March madness.
In a joint press conference from Worcester MA, Fr. B President, Rick Patterson, Chairman of the BOT, and Michael Doukeris President and CEO of Anheuser Busch In Bev SA/Nv, will make the announcement of the partnership. The decision was made to elevate the academic profile of Holy Cross and to catapult (thinking medieval castle) HC into the top 10 of LAC’s. Michael Doukeris has stated in the past that selling of his company’s products at Holy Cross has been a directive that has come from company headquarters in Leuven Belgium.
Since the Bud Light DareDevils are no longer available to market our product, Mr. Doukeris said he could think of no better a marketing spokesperson than Iggy.
This is an exclusive advance announcement report to Crossporters.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 8, 2019 16:59:22 GMT -5
Hope that all will appreciate the latest announcement. 😎
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 9, 2019 23:38:12 GMT -5
Can anyone cogently explain the seemingly obsession by some with drinking alcohol, particularly with beer sales while an actual athletic event is occurring. Seems as if with all the money spent on tickets, one would like to observe the game while mentally sharp to recall the great and not so great plays that occur, and not in an alcohol haze.
At time it really seems over the top that some have a craving that they must resolve while sitting specifically at the game itself. Isn’t the pre game tailgate and the post game tailgate or reception enough time to have a beer, a glass of wine or a high ball?
Are they looking to self medicate an anxiety that is occurring due to the uncertainty of the game outcome? Or is there another reason? I have seen on multiple sports boards great passion regarding having a beer garden or sales specifically during the game itself.
There is an appropriate time and place for consumption. Parking lots while tailgating, I am ok. In a reserved area of the baseball stadium under a tent in left field, not an issue with me. Knock your self out if you so desire. Just don’t hit my car when leaving. In Fitton Field Stadium, not so much. I do not appreciate the potential of having beer spilled around me and down the step and having to listen to some one who cannot hold their liquor rant during the game while adding fuel to their fire.
Don’t get me wrong, regarding prohibition, I am not in favor. Years ago, my family owned a bar and restaurant in a large city. I spent many a Sunday afternoon helping my Dad during inventories and ordering supplies for the upcoming week.
In reading some of post here and other boards, I really see a very unhealthy obsession regarding drinking while the game is in progress in the stadium. If they want to get wasted, fine. Due it from the comfort of home. The beer is cheaper, they will have saved the price of a ticket, the line to the bathroom is shorter, and the potential for an accident is lessen.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 10, 2019 7:26:39 GMT -5
Crusis#1, I feel much the same way. I once really enjoyed a cold beer at Yankee Stadium. Now with the sky high price for what taste. like little more than a glass of watered down brew, and the behavior of some drunk fans, I no longer feel any such appeal.
Will those who enjoy a beer at the game be able to follow the plays on our new video scoreboard? If the two things come as a package, I am OK with it. I remember feeling jealous seeing the BIG video screen at CCSU and wishing that HC had something of that type.
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