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Post by Non Alum Dave on Oct 6, 2019 6:40:42 GMT -5
FWIW, the Chesney program now stands at 7-6 against FSC opponents.......
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Post by HCFC45 on Oct 6, 2019 6:44:13 GMT -5
Given our defensive lack of success against 3rd and longs (if my memory serves me well - seems like it has happened too many times ovah the years), if I were the Bucknell coach, I would have gone for the 4th and 15. That's just one reason why. Second, wasn't it just as few plays earlier that Bucknell had converted a 3rd and long to get the ball down to around the 20 on a long a cross field pass from the HC bench side to the home field side. That play seemed to take forever to develop. but resulted in a completion where the receiver got a couple of steps behind our defender. When that happened, I screamed and wanted to throw something at the TV! !
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Post by hc2020 on Oct 6, 2019 7:24:15 GMT -5
Everyone please keep in mind that this is only Chesney’s second year leading the rebuild of this program. It’s difficult at times and there will be growing pains, but you have to be patient. Let’s give Chesney and his staff a chance to build the program in their vision with their hand picked recruiting classes with players they feel fit the system they are trying to implement. It takes time to build a successful program in a new coach’s image and according to his specific system. From what I can see, things are on the rise. I am confident we will get there eventually.
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Post by hc2020 on Oct 6, 2019 7:46:12 GMT -5
In my opinion, the defense thus far looks to be pretty solid fundamentally and that side of the ball is clearly the strong point of the team right now together with our kicking game. I think history has shown that teams that have a strong, and at times, dominant defense are more likely to be successful in the long term. Look at the Ravens and Bucs teams that won Super Bowls with pretty mediocre offenses but had very strong defenses, as opposed to the 2001 Rams and 2007 Patriots that each had pretty elite offenses but couldn’t win it in the end. If we have to win games with defense, that’s OK. Those games tend to be proverbial “rock fights” that rely upon field position, turnovers, strong special teams and being able to take advantage of mistakes made by the other team. Those games won’t win any awards for artistic beauty, but a win is still a win.
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 6, 2019 7:57:12 GMT -5
I would have gone for it too but glad they didn't. We can complain about our coaching staff but believe we outcoached the Bison yesterday.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Oct 6, 2019 8:58:32 GMT -5
I watched the entire game and was impressed that we came back from two scores down to win the game on the road. The plethora of negative posts here is hard to understand for this longtime HC fan.
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Post by timholycross on Oct 6, 2019 9:59:25 GMT -5
I'd settle for having Pujals and company and taking my chances with Murphy, not to let him off the hook.
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 6, 2019 11:08:41 GMT -5
I'd settle for having Pujals and company and taking my chances with Murphy, not to let him off the hook. I don't recall HC being great at winning close games during the Pujals half decade. This year HC has won both of it's close games.
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Post by purplehaze on Oct 6, 2019 11:49:36 GMT -5
Happy with any win so I'll take it but scoring only 3 td's against that team makes me wonder if we're really not the best team in the league this season. With a resounding W yday, I wanted to come away saying our offense can function much better against PL competition - now I'm not so sure.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 6, 2019 12:46:41 GMT -5
Happy with any win so I'll take it but scoring only 3 td's against that team makes me wonder if we're really not the best team in the league this season. With a resounding W yday, I wanted to come away saying our offense can function much better against PL competition - now I'm not so sure. Unfortunately, we're not going to be that team to put up 42 points even against weak oppinents this year. Offense just not there from a player & coach talent perspective. Defense must carry the torch and our O is going to have to grind out drives and limit turnovers to win games. Let's remember our defense allowed the Bucknell O just one early TD and that was it. Can't ask for much more. I still think HC and Georgetown are your 1A and 1B right now based on results through this weekend. Doesn't say much for the league overall. I was hoping for a slightly more convincing win myself but overcoming a 14-0 deficit with an offense that came into the game with just two offensive TD's on the season is something to build on.
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Post by HC92 on Oct 6, 2019 22:49:28 GMT -5
And the one TD the D gave up was on a short field. Bucknell started that drive on our 38.
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 7, 2019 6:03:03 GMT -5
Just a quick point...hasn't HC had to come back from double digit deficits in the last 5 PL games (going back to last year)...and WON all five? Perhaps the offense is not that bad after all.
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 7, 2019 12:47:25 GMT -5
Just a quick point...hasn't HC had to come back from double digit deficits in the last 5 PL games (going back to last year)...and WON all five? Perhaps the offense is not that bad after all. It's so bad it's good? I believe your facts over my lying eyes. I guess HC's Offense is the definition of clutch.
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Post by hc87 on Oct 7, 2019 15:00:43 GMT -5
One final note on the Bucknell game:
2,693 attendance for the Homecoming game Not 1 post on their board about the HC game. (They had about 6 for their Princeton game)
In general, they just couldn't care less about football there.
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Post by moose1970 on Oct 7, 2019 15:34:56 GMT -5
Happy with any win so I'll take it but scoring only 3 td's against that team makes me wonder if we're really not the best team in the league this season. With a resounding W yday, I wanted to come away saying our offense can function much better against PL competition - now I'm not so sure. "With a resounding W yday, I wanted to come away saying our offense can function much better against PL competition - now I'm not so sure." its ok, you can say that. no one will do anything bad!!!
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 7, 2019 20:19:19 GMT -5
One final note on the Bucknell game: 2,693 attendance for the Homecoming game Not 1 post on their board about the HC game. (They had about 6 for their Princeton game) In general, they just couldn't care less about football there. Nevah understood that. Lewisburg right in the shadow of Happy Valley. They can largely fill a 3,500 seat basketball arena 15 times a year, including weeknight games, but can't draw 5,000 for 5 Saturday afternoon football games.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Oct 7, 2019 20:25:45 GMT -5
One final note on the Bucknell game: 2,693 attendance for the Homecoming game Not 1 post on their board about the HC game. (They had about 6 for their Princeton game) In general, they just couldn't care less about football there. Nevah understood that. Lewisburg right in the shadow of Happy Valley. They can largely fill a 3,500 seat basketball arena 15 times a year, including weeknight games, but can't draw 5,000 for 5 Saturday afternoon football games. You answered the reason why right there.
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Post by Ignutz on Oct 7, 2019 20:39:54 GMT -5
Just a quick point...hasn't HC had to come back from double digit deficits in the last 5 PL games (going back to last year)...and WON all five? Perhaps the offense is not that bad after all. I maintain that the OC (and maybe the HC) has a series of plays that he’s keeping in his back pocket so as not to let future opponents see the full playbook. If this isn’t the case, how is this otherwise anemic offense able to repeatedly do very little until it’s crunch time? It may well be “clutch”, but it’s not as if late in games there are all of a sudden broken tackle after broken tackle and circus catch after circus catch. I think we’re getting better game by game, and now that we’ve allowed the Mids and the Orange to cover a good slug of the operating budget, we’ll rule the PL, and be playing after the Hoyas limp back to the District after their unproductive visit to the Heart of the Commonwealth.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Oct 7, 2019 21:41:41 GMT -5
Several head-scratching play calls notwithstanding; significant limitations at the QB position across the roster at the moment is without a doubt hand cuffing the offense.
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Post by hc87 on Oct 7, 2019 22:26:31 GMT -5
Degs Jr, admittedly hasn't been strong, but for a kid who barely played before this year, he hasn't been bad.
Let's see what he can do in the next couple of weeks.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Oct 7, 2019 23:03:49 GMT -5
Degenhardt did get named the Patriot League offensive player of the week.
It did seem that he did not lock in on a single receiver every time he went to pass--that was a criticism we had heard in prior games. I recall on a number of occasions that he looked one way and then turned and threw to another receiver. The Pick Six was regrettable but I'll take the 8.1 yards/passing attempt every game.
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Post by gks on Oct 8, 2019 6:41:00 GMT -5
Several head-scratching play calls notwithstanding; significant limitations at the QB position across the roster at the moment is without a doubt hand cuffing the offense. It's amazing how some people can't see and/or understand this.
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 8, 2019 7:41:43 GMT -5
KY, the pick 6 was the quintessential example of him staring at his receiver the moment he took the snap.
That said, there were at least a few, I would not say "numerous," times that he looked first at one receiver and then tossed to another and a couple of pump fakes were very good. This may simply be a case where he is "matureing" into the position. The TD toss to Mountain looked like a Brady to Gronk pass. Not a big Patriot fan but that was a thing of beauty.
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 8, 2019 8:43:18 GMT -5
The announcers did mention his staring at the receiver and tipping off throws early in the game.
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Post by Ignutz on Oct 12, 2019 15:02:09 GMT -5
We may not have much at QB, but there is a plethora of weapons at the skill positions that a skilled OC would be able to utilize. Cozier, Ayeni, Forrest, Gilliam, big TE Mountain, potentially frosh Asante & Thomas should be more than enough for a PL offense to get going. Call me naive (or just dumb), but is there a chance that HCBC and his OC are keeping things in their back pocket - doing what is necessary to win the winnable games, and hanging around as much as they can in the others, so as to not show the entire playbook to the Harvards and Colgates? I’ve seen the offense move the ball well (at times) against UNH and Bucknell, but then revert to doing nothing thereafter. I don’t get it. It really does seem like they can be productive when they want to. Far be it from me to say “I told you so.” Bring on the Crimson - in our yard!
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