hc68
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Post by hc68 on Nov 10, 2019 12:16:09 GMT -5
Two big problems yesterday:
1. Five turnovers, can't win with that many mistakes, had a similar problem against Harvard.
2. Offensive line play was very poor. Running backs had no openings, often tackled at the line of scrimmage. Our quarterback was under pressure all day, had to rush his passes or scramble.
We are in year 2 of a rebuilding process, give it time and for God's sake calm down. year 1 4-2 year 2 3-1
Pretty good start to the rebuilding. Took a toxic culture and is turning it in to a championship culture.
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Post by gks on Nov 10, 2019 12:50:02 GMT -5
This is what a "winning" coach looks like in the PL. I would support a guy like Garrett any day of the week and if we compare resumes to our HC, it is embarrassing. Both of their dads were football coaches: www.goleopards.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/john-garrett/452Garrett's coaching in the professional ranks followed a playing career in the NFL. He was a member of the practice squad and active roster for the Cincinnati Bengals in 1989, and on the practice squad for the Buffalo Bills in 1991. Garrett also spent training camp with the Cowboys in 1988 and with the Bengals in 1990. Garrett was born in Danville, Pa., attended high school in Cleveland and lived part of his early years in Monmouth Beach, N.J. He began his coaching career in 1990 as a volunteer at his alma mater, Princeton University, where he earned a bachelor's degree in history in 1988. In 1992, he made the move to the NFL ranks as a personnel assistant, college scout and coaches' assistant for the Buccaneers, a position he held through 1994. In 1995, he was named the offensive assistant/wide receivers coach with the Bengals, staying with the team through the 1998 season. Garrett was the Arizona Cardinals' quarterbacks coach for the 1999 and 2000 campaigns before returning to the Bengals as an offensive assistant coach in 2001, tight ends coach in 2002 and a scout in 2003. He re-joined the college ranks in 2004, where for three years he was the University of Virginia's wide receivers coach and in 2006 added the title of assistant head coach for offense. The next season he moved to the Cowboys organization. Garrett's father, Jim, spent 38 years in the NFL as a scout and assistant coach. His brother, Judd, is the current Director of Pro Scouting for the Cowboys. John and his wife, Honor, have four children (John Jr., Honor, Olivia and Caroline). Bob Chesney Prior to his arrival at Salve Regina, Chesney was a member of the staff at John Hopkins University in Baltimore, Md., from 2005-2009. He began his tenure as a defensive assistant and special teams coach for four seasons before being promoted to associate head coach in 2009. During his time at Johns Hopkins University, 21 players received all-conference recognition, including one Centennial Conference Offensive Player of the Year (Andrew Kase, 2009), one Centennial Conference Defensive Player of the Year (Colin Wixted, 2009) and one All-America selection (Kase, 2009). Chesney also helped Johns Hopkins lead the nation in interceptions in 2009. Chesney previously served as an assistant coach and special teams coordinator at King’s College in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., from 2003-2004. He was also the defensive coordinator at Delaware Valley College in Doylestown, Pa., in 2002, and served as an assistant coach at Norwich University in Northfield, Vt., from 2000-2001. Chesney earned his bachelor’s degree from Dickinson College in Carlisle, Pa., in 2000. He was a four-year varsity letterwinner as a defensive back at Dickinson, earning Second Team All-Centennial Conference honors in both 1998 and 1999. He was also the 1997 recipient of the team’s Vincent Correal MVP Award and served as a team captain during his senior year. Chesney and his wife, Andrea, currently reside in Worcester with their two daughters (Lyla and Hudson) and one son (Bo). The people at Lafayette wanted Garrett's head last year. He won a game this past Saturday at HC. Belichick he is not.
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Post by hc87 on Nov 10, 2019 13:08:50 GMT -5
Belichick played at Wesleyan....what does he know about football???
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Post by moose1970 on Nov 10, 2019 13:25:59 GMT -5
"... that doesn't mean we can't try to be objective" if you think that trying to sell snake oil remedies is being objective then you do have a point. ".. .Coach Chesney and the players don't think they played a good game today." any time you lose a football game by 3 points all you can think of are the missed opportunities. if they played hard today and did not quit then they played a good game. imho, they played a good game. Interesting logic. haha you're using the wrong "L" word. its team "loyalty" which many of the harpies who post on crossroads lack. the same team that lost by 3 points yesterday held on at the end of the game the week before to beat lehigh by 7. (WHEW!) we were as close to losing to lehigh as we were to beating lafayette. one score either way. the difference being that this week the knives are out with the same sorry remedies to save crusader football. (YAWN) i don't like losses any better than anyone else here. but if you do lose you show some class by congratulating the other team for a good game instead of creating excuses for yourself.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Nov 10, 2019 13:41:29 GMT -5
Belichick played at Wesleyan....what does he know about football??? Can I like this, like, to infinity plus 1?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2019 13:46:47 GMT -5
This is what a "winning" coach looks like in the PL. I would support a guy like Garrett any day of the week and if we compare resumes to our HC, it is embarrassing. Both of their dads were football coaches: www.goleopards.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/john-garrett/452Garrett's coaching in the professional ranks followed a playing career in the NFL. He was a member of the practice squad and active roster for the Cincinnati Bengals in 1989, and on the practice squad for the Buffalo Bills in 1991. Garrett also spent training camp with the Cowboys in 1988 and with the Bengals in 1990. Garrett was born in Danville, Pa., attended high school in Cleveland and lived part of his early years in Monmouth Beach, N.J. He began his coaching career in 1990 as a volunteer at his alma mater, Princeton University, where he earned a bachelor's degree in history in 1988. In 1992, he made the move to the NFL ranks as a personnel assistant, college scout and coaches' assistant for the Buccaneers, a position he held through 1994. In 1995, he was named the offensive assistant/wide receivers coach with the Bengals, staying with the team through the 1998 season. Garrett was the Arizona Cardinals' quarterbacks coach for the 1999 and 2000 campaigns before returning to the Bengals as an offensive assistant coach in 2001, tight ends coach in 2002 and a scout in 2003. He re-joined the college ranks in 2004, where for three years he was the University of Virginia's wide receivers coach and in 2006 added the title of assistant head coach for offense. The next season he moved to the Cowboys organization. Garrett's father, Jim, spent 38 years in the NFL as a scout and assistant coach. His brother, Judd, is the current Director of Pro Scouting for the Cowboys. John and his wife, Honor, have four children (John Jr., Honor, Olivia and Caroline). Bob Chesney Prior to his arrival at Salve Regina, Chesney was a member of the staff at John Hopkins University in Baltimore, Md., from 2005-2009. He began his tenure as a defensive assistant and special teams coach for four seasons before being promoted to associate head coach in 2009. During his time at Johns Hopkins University, 21 players received all-conference recognition, including one Centennial Conference Offensive Player of the Year (Andrew Kase, 2009), one Centennial Conference Defensive Player of the Year (Colin Wixted, 2009) and one All-America selection (Kase, 2009). Chesney also helped Johns Hopkins lead the nation in interceptions in 2009. Chesney previously served as an assistant coach and special teams coordinator at King’s College in Wilkes-Barre, Pa., from 2003-2004. He was also the defensive coordinator at Delaware Valley College in Doylestown, Pa., in 2002, and served as an assistant coach at Norwich University in Northfield, Vt., from 2000-2001. Chesney earned his bachelor’s degree from Dickinson College in Carlisle, Pa., in 2000. He was a four-year varsity letterwinner as a defensive back at Dickinson, earning Second Team All-Centennial Conference honors in both 1998 and 1999. He was also the 1997 recipient of the team’s Vincent Correal MVP Award and served as a team captain during his senior year. Chesney and his wife, Andrea, currently reside in Worcester with their two daughters (Lyla and Hudson) and one son (Bo). Now, I have to think, I have to hope, that you are just playing games with us, trying to wind us up. If I'm reading your post correctly, you suggest that Garrett is "what a winning coach looks like". Why, then, is his W-L record at Lafayette as follows: 3-8 in 2017 3-8 in 2018 3-7 in 2019 season to date 9-23 overall. It seems to me that you are embarrassed that Bob Chesney was a D-3 player (instead of D-1 or D-1/NFL) and that he coached at smaller programs prior to HC. Would you rather have as our head coach a 10 year NFL player maybe a Pro Bowl player, who had no leadership ability, could not recruit, and could not make sound decisions--but, man, he was in the NFL? You really should give Chesney a chance Valid Points KY. I have not followed Lafayette and based my perspective off how they executed yesterday. Having said that, I would be more forgiving of Chesney if we had an OC with atleast one year of FCS or FBS experience.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 10, 2019 14:30:20 GMT -5
Let’s get back to the basic understanding of roles and stop blaming or comparing coaches
Players win or lose games on the field Coaches recruit, sign and retain talent while preparing and developing a team so they are in the best position to win-and yes some coaches are miles ahead of others in this category
On an occasion or two a bad decision is taken by the staff that negatively impacts the outcome, but on the whole players decisions and execution gives you the final result.
So from what I have seen this season some decisions taken by the OC might not be what anybody on the board would make, but to me the head coach gets very solid grades for his work with the available talent. In fairness to Gilmore, he did not leave the cupboard empty, but it was less than full.
IMO the Depth of Talent, Speed, and Quickness recruited and signed the past two/almost three classes is an upgrade over the previous two decades. By the end of year four we will be able to evaluate how the players have developed and how prepared they are to execute blocking and tackling.
Meanwhile, enjoy the ride and while this is not FBS, the staff is developing a winning culture and over time we will have a quality top 25 FCS team
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 10, 2019 14:35:32 GMT -5
Plus 1 ! Coach C is doing a great job but I hate to admit he was out coached by Garrett who brought less talent to fitton yday - just ‘one of those days’
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Post by efg72 on Nov 10, 2019 14:37:11 GMT -5
They were indeed better prepared-mentally and physically
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Post by purplepig on Nov 10, 2019 15:59:41 GMT -5
Lafayette fans still want Garrett to be fired. They are concerned that a few wins will save him. Not much patience in FB but lots for BB over there. 20 years of mediocre ball.
I would bet on Chesney in the long run. Five turnovers are not his fault. Staying within three with five TOs is a peculiar accomplishment.
At least one was called wrong but still that was bad.
HC has brought in talent and is moving up.
Never forget it’s just FCS football.
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Post by joe on Nov 10, 2019 16:45:20 GMT -5
Now is the time to get behind this team. Laffy is not going to win out. Look at the bright side. We have two more weeks of relevant football to watch in November and the guys on the program we love are having a learning experience that will stay with them the rest of their lives.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 10, 2019 16:51:38 GMT -5
Now is the time to get behind this team. Laffy is not going to win out. Look at the bright side. We have two more weeks of relevant football to watch in November and the guys on the program we love are having a learning experience that will stay with them the rest of their lives. NAIILLLEEEDDD IIITTTT
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 10, 2019 16:58:12 GMT -5
Lafayette fans still want Garrett to be fired. They are concerned that a few wins will save him. Not much patience in FB but lots for BB over there. 20 years of mediocre ball. I would bet on Chesney in the long run. Five turnovers are not his fault. Staying within three with five TOs is a peculiar accomplishment. At least one was called wrong but still that was bad. HC has brought in talent and is moving up. Never forget it’s just FCS football. If the Leopards don't lost to Colgate next week, I hope Gilmore runs train on them in the finale. Sick of Lafayette somehow always being the team to come out of nowhere with mediocre teams to win the Patriot League championship. If they win the title this year, their last three championship teams would have AVERAGED 5.33 wins and gone a total 2-13 out of conference. LET THAT SINK IN.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 10, 2019 17:12:59 GMT -5
you're using the wrong "L" word. its team "loyalty" which many of the harpies who post on crossroads lack. the same team that lost by 3 points yesterday held on at the end of the game the week before to beat lehigh by 7. (WHEW!) we were as close to losing to lehigh as we were to beating lafayette. one score either way. the difference being that this week the knives are out with the same sorry remedies to save crusader football. (YAWN) i don't like losses any better than anyone else here. but if you do lose you show some class by congratulating the other team for a good game instead of creating excuses for yourself. In fact, if you look at Chesney as the game is ending, it looked like he was slowing the team down and reminding them how to handle the loss as they moved to midfield to shake the hands of the opponent. The game did have a bit more of pushing and shoving than normally happens during the course of a game. With that said, I am sure the loss stung for players, coaches and fans. Give the Leopards credit They played well and wanted the game, perhaps just a little bit more than HC -they certainly didn’t step on the field to just let HC win next up are the Rams and we need to go 1-0 next Saturday
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