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Post by purplehaze on Nov 16, 2019 17:32:54 GMT -5
An absolutely crazy weekend in the Ivy where all four road teams won in upsets The biggest - Cornell beat Dartmouth 20-17 Yale whipped Princeton Penn won in Cambridge Brown routed Columbia
Yale and Dartmouth tie for the title with wins next Saturday
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Post by hc87 on Nov 16, 2019 17:35:10 GMT -5
I don't know if I'm more shocked by the Yale decisive win or the Big Red winning in Hangovah...somewhere, Ed Marinaro is smiling.
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Post by hc87 on Nov 16, 2019 17:43:16 GMT -5
Playoff purpose-wise (I know)....Albany beat UNH 24-17....the CAA after JMU is wide open....we could see Villanova again.
CCSU clinched (I think) the NEC today....with a W ova RMU
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 16, 2019 19:12:54 GMT -5
Playoff purpose-wise (I know)....Albany beat UNH 24-17....the CAA after JMU is wide open....we could see Villanova again. CCSU clinched (I think) the NEC today....with a W ova RMU The 'Nova faithful can pack their thermals and fly into Worcester Airport via Orlando.
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Post by timholycross on Nov 16, 2019 19:16:29 GMT -5
Boy, Harvard had a tough year. And after Yale got its doors blown off by Dartmouth a few weeks ago, who'd a thunk they have a chance at the Ivy title?
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 16, 2019 19:26:55 GMT -5
Playoff purpose-wise (I know)....Albany beat UNH 24-17....the CAA after JMU is wide open....we could see Villanova again. CCSU clinched (I think) the NEC today....with a W ova RMU The 'Nova faithful can pack their thermals and fly into Worcester Airport via Orlando. Actually I just checked this to be sure. There is now a direct flight from Philly to ORH (Worcester) on American Airlines for $92.
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Post by timholycross on Nov 16, 2019 19:38:45 GMT -5
Do conference champs automatically get home games in the round of 24? No question that HC or whoever else,God forbid, wins the PL, isn't one of the top 8.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 17, 2019 2:17:09 GMT -5
Do conference champs automatically get home games in the round of 24? No question that HC or whoever else,God forbid, wins the PL, isn't one of the top 8. Unlike the NFL where division champs automatically host in the furst round, conference champs are not guaranteed home field in the opening round. My prediction is Holy Cross @ Towson in the round of 24. Villanova a strong possibility as well assuming they beat UD next week. You know who definitely deserves a bome game is CCSU. 10-0 against FCS competition with only loss to Eastern Michigan on final play of game. I could see them getting Albany in New Britain. Edit: see below post. I forgot about Monmouth. Also CCSU may deserve not only a home game but a bye like Colgate got last year.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 17, 2019 7:06:11 GMT -5
Do conference champs automatically get home games in the round of 24? No question that HC or whoever else,God forbid, wins the PL, isn't one of the top 8. IIRC, in the somewhat distant past, the team hosting in the first round was the school willing to put up the money to host. Don't know if that is still true. Again IIRC, the money was used to help defray the travel costs of the visiting team, and other expenses associated with the game, e.g., officials.
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Post by hc6774 on Nov 17, 2019 8:00:15 GMT -5
Do conference champs automatically get home games in the round of 24? No question that HC or whoever else,God forbid, wins the PL, isn't one of the top 8. IIRC, in the somewhat distant past, the team hosting in the first round was the school willing to put up the money to host. Don't know if that is still true. Again IIRC, the money was used to help defray the travel costs of the visiting team, and other expenses associated with the game, e.g., officials. If so, I wonder how HC's TPTB would look at this. Revenue sources; TV money & gate receipts?? Marketing value? ADMB probably working on a proposal this week?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 17, 2019 8:12:39 GMT -5
IIRC, in the somewhat distant past, the team hosting in the first round was the school willing to put up the money to host. Don't know if that is still true. Again IIRC, the money was used to help defray the travel costs of the visiting team, and other expenses associated with the game, e.g., officials. If so, I wonder how HC's TPTB would look at this. Revenue sources; TV money & gate receipts?? Marketing value? ADMB probably working on a proposal this week? I have a very dim recollection of way back in the day of HC choosing not to host an FCS playoff game because of the 'cost', the probability of low attendance, with the risk of poor weather in Worcester also being a factor. I also could be deluding myself with this memory.
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Post by hc6774 on Nov 17, 2019 8:38:28 GMT -5
Memory is a problem with me as well... but I'm sure I went to a playoff game at Fitton against Western Carolina and The Thrill either DNP'd or was ineffective due to injury. It was a sunny but cold and blustery day and Fitton was nearly empty.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 17, 2019 8:49:23 GMT -5
Memory is a problem with me as well... but I'm sure I went to a playoff game at Fitton against Western Carolina and The Thrill either DNP'd or was ineffective due to injury. It was a sunny but cold and blustery day and Fitton was nearly empty. That was not the game I was thinking of. It may have been the Villanova game, where there was discussion of HC potentially being able to host if it was willing to shell out the money. Somewhat related with respect to reducing the cost, I think it was about a decade ago when the NCAA decided to pair playoff teams that were geographically proximate with one another
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Post by hcpride on Nov 17, 2019 8:56:09 GMT -5
Agree that beyond the actual seeded teams, the games are based on geography. We’ll (we’re winning the PL) probably play someone like Towson or Albany first round which will be a challenge.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 17, 2019 9:05:32 GMT -5
The playoff matchups have always been regional to a degree. The main difference is that since the playoffs expanded from 16 to 24, the committee allows conferences rematches in the round of 16 wheras before these wouldn't have occurred until the round of 8.
Back when HC hosted WCU there were only 8 teams in the entire field.
There was a zero percent chance HC was hosting in the first round in 2009. Villanova was a Top 4 seed and was guaranteed a home game. Prior to losing to Bucknell that year in the finale, there was talk that if we finished 10-1, it was possible we would have gotten a home game against UNH.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 17, 2019 9:07:19 GMT -5
Agree that beyond the actual seeded teams, the games are based on geography. We’ll (we’re winning the PL) probably play someone like Towson or Albany first round which will be a challenge. If you look at the entire history of the PL in the first round of the playoffs, the only one that was sent far enough to have to fly was Fordham at Chattanooga in 2016.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 17, 2019 9:25:36 GMT -5
Agree that beyond the actual seeded teams, the games are based on geography. We’ll (we’re winning the PL) probably play someone like Towson or Albany first round which will be a challenge. If you look at the entire history of the PL in the first round of the playoffs, the only one that was sent far enough to have to fly was Fordham at Chattanooga in 2016. Yes. It was 2015 and Colgate (PL Champ) played UNH 1st round while Fordham took a longer trip.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 17, 2019 9:28:52 GMT -5
Agree that beyond the actual seeded teams, the games are based on geography. We’ll (we’re winning the PL) probably play someone like Towson or Albany first round which will be a challenge. Assuming HC and Towson beat Lafayette and Elon respectively next week, the following 5 will in almost all likelihood be matched up against one in another in some form with one odd man out: Monmouth Albany Holy Cross Villanova Towson Central Connecticut State, if they win their finale, will be 11-0 against FCS competition with a VERY close FBS loss and probably gets a top 8 seed and a bye. Maine is also on a winning streak and could get consideration if they beat UNH, making an eelven six teams in the Northeast region playing in the Round of 24.
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Post by HC92 on Nov 17, 2019 9:36:37 GMT -5
Sign me up for a second round game at CCSU. Lots of ground to cover before then, of course.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 17, 2019 9:44:23 GMT -5
Sign me up for a second round game at CCSU. Lots of ground to cover before then, of course. Agreed. 2 games to win first. Between second half ay Fordham and first half agsinst the Hoyas, lets shoot for the century mark!!!
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 17, 2019 9:50:11 GMT -5
More amateur NY Cru bracketology:
The MEAC champ FAMU will head to the Celebration Bowl. However, very good chance the runner-up makes the field. Either South Carolina State or North Carolina A&T. I could see Monmouth or Towson hosting one of those guys.
HC in Orono a distinct possiblity. If they beat UNH, they will be 7-5 (5-3 CAA) with 2 FBS losses. And a 5 game winning streak in the CAA to close the season.
Ill further this. If HC and Maine both win Saturday, I'm calling a 100% chance of an HC-Maine matchup in Round of 24.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 17, 2019 10:52:39 GMT -5
More amateur NY Cru bracketology: The MEAC champ FAMU will head to the Celebration Bowl. However, very good chance the runner-up makes the field. Either South Carolina State or North Carolina A&T. I could see Monmouth or Towson hosting one of those guys. HC in Orono a distinct possiblity. If they beat UNH, they will be 7-5 (5-3 CAA) with 2 FBS losses. And a 5 game winning streak in the CAA to close the season. Ill further this. If HC and Maine both win Saturday, I'm calling a 100% chance of an HC-Maine matchup in Round of 24. This HC team can stand up to a 7-5 CAA team if we hang onto the ball.
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Post by hc87 on Nov 17, 2019 11:06:42 GMT -5
Memory is a problem with me as well... but I'm sure I went to a playoff game at Fitton against Western Carolina and The Thrill either DNP'd or was ineffective due to injury. It was a sunny but cold and blustery day and Fitton was nearly empty. Different times but that WC crowd of 13K+ at Fitton would have been by far our largest home crowd this year. Not a knock on our support....world we live in today. That game rivaled, but didn't exceed, the blistering cold of the famed 73 Syracuse game as well..
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Post by hcpride on Nov 17, 2019 11:13:16 GMT -5
HC in Orono a distinct possiblity. If they beat UNH, they will be 7-5 (5-3 CAA) with 2 FBS losses. And a 5 game winning streak in the CAA to close the season. Ill further this. If HC and Maine both win Saturday, I'm calling a 100% chance of an HC-Maine matchup in Round of 24. If Villanova, Albany, Towson, and Maine win out next week I don’t see Maine getting in. (FWIW they lost to Towson and VU and beat Albany.) I see the first 3 plus JMU. Not sure it is a 5-team year for the CAA if things go that way.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 17, 2019 11:25:23 GMT -5
HC in Orono a distinct possiblity. If they beat UNH, they will be 7-5 (5-3 CAA) with 2 FBS losses. And a 5 game winning streak in the CAA to close the season. Ill further this. If HC and Maine both win Saturday, I'm calling a 100% chance of an HC-Maine matchup in Round of 24. If Villanova, Albany, Towson, and Maine win out next week I don’t see Maine getting in. (FWIW they lost to Towson and VU and beat Albany.) I see the first 3 plus JMU. Not sure it is a 5-team year for the CAA if things go that way. Great point. Tough for any one league to get 5 teams in. There will definitely be questions coming out of the CAA. Does Villanova play themselves out with a loss to UD? Also Towson beat Maine head to head while also losing to Albany. Maine beat Albany. Albany finishes year with a very tough Stony Brook team. Lose and they're out. I still think a Maine win puts them in. 5 game win streak, 7-3 vs FCS, semifinalist last year -- those factors will sway the committee.
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