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Post by sader1970 on Nov 20, 2019 7:57:39 GMT -5
I gave that some serious thought, NAD, but I wasn't at the Fordham game or any football games except UNH (yes, the Crusaders won that game) and the football team seems to be doing OK.
Basketball? Would love to get up for the Harvard game but that's "iffy" at best. Not sure we can/will beat the Johnnies but pretty sure the team will play a lot better and results will be a lot closer.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Nov 20, 2019 8:02:12 GMT -5
In hindsight, we probably got a little too giddy with the Maryland game, and now we're having the opposite reaction to last night. I am continuing to remind myself that it is November 20, 2019, and not March 1, 2020.
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Post by trimster on Nov 20, 2019 8:25:11 GMT -5
Not much you can say about this one, totally overwhelmed on both ends of the floor. Northeastern did whatever they wanted on offense and we couldn't run any type of effective offense against them. The way they shot could have won by 75 if they wanted to. Roland made some unbelievable shots but must not be a fluke as he's doing it every game. Was really impressed with the freshmen point guard got to the hoop whenever he wanted to and gave Lowder fits on the other end. Copeland looked good and at least Faw got a chance to bang some of the rust off his game. Nelson certainly has his hands full talent level just not there need a couple more good recruiting years. Wasn't thrilled with the Reilly scholarship when recruited and even less so now, given the apparent talent level of the three recruits it's hard to believe we couldn't have done more with that scholarship. The need for a backup point guard in an obvious rebuilding year made no sense. Agree totally on the Reilly Scholarship, makes no sense. Small 1 dimensional guards can't get it done at this level. I thought we were done with that? Yuetter could have filled that role for 6-8 mins a game. We really looked D3 last night. I would like to see Copeland be a starter and when JP comes back, see AB come off bench. One other note, CN is not the same player he was before the injury so far.
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Post by trimster on Nov 20, 2019 8:29:31 GMT -5
I don’t see the point in criticizing giving Joe Reilly a scholarship, four games into his freshman year. I think he’ll be just fine as someone who can give you 10-15 minutes off the bench. Let’s not be so quick to make a judgment.
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Post by bigfan on Nov 20, 2019 8:57:46 GMT -5
We need people who can rebound and at least three pure shooters. Without those types we are in trouble. I do have hope in the new coach that he can recruit the right people.
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Post by gks on Nov 20, 2019 9:02:01 GMT -5
We need people who can rebound and at least three pure shooters. Without those types we are in trouble. I do have hope in the new coach that he can recruit the right people. Fans have been saying this for every coach since Ralph....and in every other sport too.
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Post by classof83 on Nov 20, 2019 9:06:26 GMT -5
A rookie head coach with a freshman who is probably your best player is not a recipe for a lot of success.
Marcus Blossom (who played at Northeastern) was not a happy camper last night.
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Post by possum on Nov 20, 2019 9:20:00 GMT -5
I was critical of the decision at the time because we were using a scholarship on a player that was leftover from the previous recruiting cycle rather than going after a player from a much deeper pool in the current recruiting year. I think the level of players we recruited and the plethora of offers they had confirms this theory. Given the current state of the program I didn't think we had the luxury of using a scholarship on a point guard in the same class as Lowder.
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Post by timholycross on Nov 20, 2019 9:26:27 GMT -5
I don’t see the point in criticizing giving Joe Reilly a scholarship, four games into his freshman year. I think he’ll be just fine as someone who can give you 10-15 minutes off the bench. Let’s not be so quick to make a judgment. A different time and a different set of standards, for sure, but I was mad as hell for a long time that they "wasted" a scholarship on Roger Breslin. Glad I was wrong, he had a great last 2-3 years.
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Post by Ray on Nov 20, 2019 9:32:11 GMT -5
In hindsight, we probably got a little too giddy with the Maryland game, and now we're having the opposite reaction to last night. I am continuing to remind myself that it is November 20, 2019, and not March 1, 2020. Or even more to the point, March 1, 2021.
My horizon here is similar to where Chesney is. If we get to play for the league title in Nelson's Year 2, that's great. Year 3 might be more realistic, for sure... but I think we would have said same thing about Chesney after, say, the BC game last year.
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Post by Ray on Nov 20, 2019 9:33:33 GMT -5
Also, the UMass-Boston game looks a lot more reasonable now, just as an opportunity to get Coach Nelson his first W should he still need it.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Nov 20, 2019 9:37:54 GMT -5
I don't think it's unreasonable to point out that it is unusual to bring in 2 point guards in the same class. On the other hand, if DL got hurt and there was no scholarship replacement in tow, it's hard for me to believe that everyone would be ok with that.
My humble suggestion would be to throw out both the Maryland and Northeastern games, and focus on the improvement needed that could have turned the tide in the other 2 games. For sanity's sake at least.
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Post by trimster on Nov 20, 2019 9:54:30 GMT -5
A rookie head coach with a freshman who is probably your best player is not a recipe for a lot of success. Marcus Blossom (who played at Northeastern) was not a happy camper last night. As someone else pointed out, HC is small at every position. After seeing the Fairfield and Northeastern games, one thing that really jumps out at me is the physical disparity between them and us.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Nov 20, 2019 10:00:28 GMT -5
I was critical of the decision at the time because we were using a scholarship on a player that was leftover from the previous recruiting cycle rather than going after a player from a much deeper pool in the current recruiting year. I think the level of players we recruited and the plethora of offers they had confirms this theory. Given the current state of the program I didn't think we had the luxury of using a scholarship on a point guard in the same class as Lowder. While this may be true, we also didn’t have the luxury of entering the season with only one scholarship point guard - a freshman who does not have the build for 40 minutes per game right now, and who, if I’m remembering correctly, had a serious injury ~2 years ago. If you thought last night would was bad, imagine who bad this team would be without a scholarship point guard if Lowder went down? Not sure Nelson could take that risk in year 1.
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Post by Tom on Nov 20, 2019 10:02:51 GMT -5
Yes, it was horrible. I expected bad from the start, but not that bad.
It was stated earlier that Maryland was a more competitive game because HC had a better than typical game and Maryland had a worse than typical game. I think last night Northeastern had a better than typical game. High shooting percentage from lots of turnovers and slow rotations. Also a decent number of what I would call bad, off balance shots that went in. 75 percent from 3 in the first half is outstanding. Would a team hit that in a shoot around with no D
Even though I have low expectations for this squad, I think 1 for the first 26 from 3 is an anomaly. There were some not great shots. There were plenty of good looks in that group too.
If these teams played 10 more games this year, Northeastern would win at least 9, but I don't believe there would be another 40+ deficit
This is still a team that finished in last place last season, lost their star, lost 5 of the top 8 guys in minutes (and one of the 3 returnees didn't play until last night), is learning all new systems on O and D, entered the season with zero minutes of scholarship college experience at the point. I said before the season it has the makings of an inconsistently bad season. I say inconsistent because there will be some nights they look decent, there will be some nights they look horrible. Right now I'm just hoping that the horrible nights get fewer and farther between as the season progresses
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 20, 2019 10:10:49 GMT -5
A rookie head coach with a freshman who is probably your best player is not a recipe for a lot of success. Marcus Blossom (who played at Northeastern) was not a happy camper last night. No fan of HC could have been happy last night. I believe that ADMB has more sense than to judge his hire on that one game...unless you heard him say that was the case.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 20, 2019 10:19:43 GMT -5
A rookie head coach with a freshman who is probably your best player is not a recipe for a lot of success. Marcus Blossom (who played at Northeastern) was not a happy camper last night. As someone else pointed out, HC is small at every position. After seeing the Fairfield and Northeastern games, one thing that really jumps out at me is the physical disparity between them and us. Per KenPom--Holy Cross is absolutely average in height, #176 of 353 D-1 teams. In fact HC is taller than Northeastern by 1/2 inch as NU is #237. I believe the calculation for the team takes into account player height and minutes played. No doubt someone now will suggest that HC lies about height more than other teams do thus making the KenPom calculation erroneous.
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 20, 2019 10:32:44 GMT -5
Just for the record: Massey has HC ranked at #321 (out of 353). There is room for improvement.
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Post by trimster on Nov 20, 2019 10:43:06 GMT -5
As someone else pointed out, HC is small at every position. After seeing the Fairfield and Northeastern games, one thing that really jumps out at me is the physical disparity between them and us. Per KenPom--Holy Cross is absolutely average in height, #176 of 353 D-1 teams. In fact HC is taller than Northeastern by 1/2 inch as NU is #237. I believe the calculation for the team takes into account player height and minutes played. No doubt someone now will suggest that HC lies about height more than other teams do thus making the KenPom calculation erroneous. I wasn’t thinking so much of height as I was physical build, especially with our guys who play a lot near the rim.
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Post by Tom on Nov 20, 2019 10:49:14 GMT -5
Per KenPom--Holy Cross is absolutely average in height, #176 of 353 D-1 teams. In fact HC is taller than Northeastern by 1/2 inch as NU is #237. I believe the calculation for the team takes into account player height and minutes played. No doubt someone now will suggest that HC lies about height more than other teams do thus making the KenPom calculation erroneous. I wasn’t thinking so much of height as I was physical build, especially with our guys who play a lot near the rim. So, the tallest guy in the building can appear small if he's as thin as a rail?
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Post by Ray on Nov 20, 2019 11:09:52 GMT -5
A rookie head coach with a freshman who is probably your best player is not a recipe for a lot of success. Marcus Blossom (who played at Northeastern) was not a happy camper last night. No fan of HC could have been happy last night. I believe that ADMB has more sense than to judge his hire on that one game...unless you heard him say that was the case. Saying he wasn't happy with the blowout is a different thing than saying he wasn't happy with his coach. I'm quite sure Blossom understands what Nelson is working with right now.
Eyes on the horizon, people.
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 20, 2019 12:34:56 GMT -5
Yes, last night was a shock to the system but I would really like all of the 'experts' on this board to stop criticizing who has a scholarship etc.. and simply leave it up to the professionals on our staff to make those decisions. We in the fan category are left with supporting them - that's our place, especially this season which will have some 'ups' and more 'downs' - I am most concerned about home attendance as our players do not deserve to play in front of 'hundreds'.
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Post by trimster on Nov 20, 2019 12:48:06 GMT -5
I wasn’t thinking so much of height as I was physical build, especially with our guys who play a lot near the rim. So, the tallest guy in the building can appear small if he's as thin as a rail? Exactly.
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Post by timholycross on Nov 20, 2019 12:48:38 GMT -5
Umass/Northeastern and Harvard/Northeastern did not significantly exceed last night's attendance. Plus, the Harvard/NU matchup was between two schools less than five miles apart.
Not sure who's drawing well right now.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 20, 2019 12:50:13 GMT -5
Not sure who's drawing well right now. Vermont.
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